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  • #21
    Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
    Why would anyone who knows the sport believe Ali would back out of a fight with any basketball player OR any athlete from another sport? They were not trained to fight.
    - -We have Howie's ABC footage from 1967 where Ali does just that. What grade was U in then?

    Wilt cracked him without having to lift a pinkie and would find Ali to be a useful idiot in future contract negotiations.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
      IMO the two things that suggest Ali would have taken the fight in '69 is the money issue - he was broke at that point - Ali even said that Frazier slipped him a couple grand one time just to tide him over - second Ali did take the wrestling match for money so why not Wilt?
      I agree with this, and what Houdini has been posting. Bottom line is no top athlete from another sport had transitioned to boxing and made an impact, and especially in their first fight. Wilt with no experience was no worry to Ali in my opinion and would have fallen in a few rounds after Ali adjusted to his height and reach.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - -We have Howie's ABC footage from 1967 where Ali does just that. What grade was U in then?

        Wilt cracked him without having to lift a pinkie and would find Ali to be a useful idiot in future contract negotiations.
        Please show a link where Ali says he will pass on any fight with Wilt. On top of that in 1967 Ali's license to box was suspended. How would that fight have happened?

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        • #24
          Clay had Wilt out shaded.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            Clay had Wilt out shaded.
            Oh! Obviously, tell us something everyone doesn't already know. The 'shade' argument is always a trump card in the fight game.

            I wish I knew wtf we are talking about.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Please show a link where Ali says he will pass on any fight with Wilt. On top of that in 1967 Ali's license to box was suspended. How would that fight have happened?
              - -Need to find the alternative forum for U link requests. In the here and now, kick U special st000pid in U rear and find where I say Ali would pass on any Wilt fight. That what U minder is 4!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                On top of that in 1967 Ali's license to box was suspended. How would that fight have happened?
                The link for U minder:

                https://boxrec.com/en/event/15981/22884

                Fought Terrell 6 weeks before that and didn't refuse the draft until the end of April.

                Yeah, Howie and ABC scheduled the Wilt signing because the NY Commish suspended his license at a much later date. Makes perfect sense in U special kinda st000pid silly putty world.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  The link for U minder:

                  https://boxrec.com/en/event/15981/22884

                  Fought Terrell 6 weeks before that and didn't refuse the draft until the end of April.

                  Yeah, Howie and ABC scheduled the Wilt signing because the NY Commish suspended his license at a much later date. Makes perfect sense in U special kinda st000pid silly putty world.
                  Oh SNAP.....you got me!!

                  I think it's great you have finally provided a link for something and claimed a small victory. The problem is, when was he going to fight Wilt? He fought Folley in March of '67 and was stripped in April. They were also on the Howard Cosell show in March, but that left no time for negotiation before his license was unjustly taken away. When the fight was actually viable Wilt backed out, and in the link I provided he says why in his own words combined with the opinions of others as to why he no showed the day of the contract signing.
                  Last edited by JAB5239; 06-29-2021, 08:22 AM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    Oh SNAP.....you got me!!

                    I think it's great you have finally provided a link for something and claimed a small victory. The problem is, when was he going to fight Wilt? He fought Folley in March of '67 and was stripped in April. They were also on the Howard Cosell show in March, but that left no time for negotiation before his license was unjustly taken away. When the fight was actually viable Wilt backed out, and in the link I provided he says why in his own words combined with the opinions of others as to why he no showed the day of the contract signing.
                    - -U must have the largest collection of dunce caps in the world. Gotta pic? Warehoused?

                    Ali already backed outta the fight in the ABC studios...duh!!!
                    NY Commish refused to license Liston as in NEVER, but that didn't prevent Sonny from fighting over the rest of the country including vs Floyd and Ali...duh!!!
                    Ali and his lawyers made the decision to retire, not the NY Commish...DUH!!!

                    This forum used to be go to with a plethora of savvy posters to pound out historical conversations. Not gonna condemn the rest of the board with U infantile IQ range, but can't U just let U minder post in U name. That would raise the international IQ several vital points, perhaps enough to save it from duncecaps currently destroying it.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - -U must have the largest collection of dunce caps in the world. Gotta pic? Warehoused?

                      Ali already backed outta the fight in the ABC studios...duh!!!
                      NY Commish refused to license Liston as in NEVER, but that didn't prevent Sonny from fighting over the rest of the country including vs Floyd and Ali...duh!!!
                      Ali and his lawyers made the decision to retire, not the NY Commish...DUH!!!


                      This forum used to be go to with a plethora of savvy posters to pound out historical conversations. Not gonna condemn the rest of the board with U infantile IQ range, but can't U just let U minder post in U name. That would raise the international IQ several vital points, perhaps enough to save it from duncecaps currently destroying it.
                      You like to talk about dunce caps and people's IQ's a lot. You love to insult nearly everyone you converse with on here. But you don't even realize that Ali and Liston's circumstances are very different. Liston had his license suspended in NY. That was overturned 90 days later. That NY wouldn't let him fight there was mostly due to Cus D'Amato who hated Sonny and his criminal background and handlers. Kind of ironic though since Cus himself is said to have had connections and had his managers license suspended in 1959 for misconduct connected to the Patterson-Johansson fight.

                      Ali on the other hand was first suspended by New York after refusing the draft. Technically he could have fought up til June in other states until he was convicted of draft evasion and sentenced to 5 years in prison and had his boxing license revoked in the United States entirely. So I'll ask you again, when should this fight have happened and where? Ali was obviously in a much bigger and more important fight during that time frame? You will undoubtedly come up with more uneducated BS. In the meantime, you're welcome for the education.
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                      Last edited by JAB5239; 06-30-2021, 07:30 AM.

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