Joe Frazier vs Joe Louis

[Ascended]

Louis came up in the 30's, his prime was '37 to '46 with the bulk of his best comp coming in the 40's. You can take my word for it or look it up yourself. Who says that should be Joe's record, you? Your opinion means little here, and it's in the record books. Live with it because you will never change it. Why do I need to post a link of Byrd looking for a rematch in a fight he won? Is this your go to know that you're out of other excuses?

Wlad opponents beaten over Louis? Lmao.....stop making a mockery of yourself already!!

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

[Ascended]

Louis came up in the 30's, his prime was '37 to '46 with the bulk of his best comp coming in the 40's. You can take my word for it or look it up yourself. Who says that should be Joe's record, you? Your opinion means little here, and it's in the record books. Live with it because you will never change it. Why do I need to post a link of Byrd looking for a rematch in a fight he won? Is this your go to know that you're out of other excuses?

Wlad opponents beaten over Louis? Lmao.....stop making a mockery of yourself already!!

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent


a playlist with multiple matches from this novice-like era and once again I proved you're a liar and not sane you lied saying no such thing as fighters all having the same flaws this era did and every other Match from this era will show the same

And I don't need to explain anything I showed multiple times 70s-and 90s were way more advanced I won't be trolled as if what I say doesn't exist when I've seen multiple matches you're vision is horrible

You know for a fact no one made mid/top guy in 70s-90s with the same obsolete flaws as these guys that's why you won't answer, that shows for a fact this era was trash compared they look horrible

[JAB5239]

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent


a playlist with multiple matches from this novice-like era and once again I proved you're a liar and not sane you lied saying no such thing as fighters all having the same flaws this era did and every other Match from this era will show the same

And I don't need to explain anything I showed multiple times 70s-and 90s were way more advanced I won't be trolled as if what I say doesn't exist when I've seen multiple matches you're vision is horrible

You know for a fact no one made mid/top guy in 70s-90s with the same obsolete flaws as these guys that's why you won't answer, that shows for a fact this era was trash compared they look horrible

Whatever you say!!!

https://********/mCXTIWRcdk8?si=GfS_GFZ4jOErozQj

Now imagine this at a slower speed, from a distance in black and white. Not to mention the other videos I posted that you ignored. Try again sparky.

[Ascended]

Whatever you say!!!

https://********/mCXTIWRcdk8?si=GfS_GFZ4jOErozQj

Now imagine this at a slower speed, from a distance in black and white. Not to mention the other videos I posted that you ignored. Try again sparky.

Exposed bad stop trolling lied saying they weren't trash, as I said the videos show they were and all had the same obsolete flaws as each other, even Louis, who you multiple times lied saying he was the most skilled hw ever, which he isn't even in the in the top 50.

I asked you three times if you had seen all the flaws I named and deflected. You do see them, and you’re hurt. They exist on video because Louis was part of that trash era.

I described exactly what’s on video and anybody with good vision can see it I posted mutiple matches to you and they show in each match

I didn't lie or am I being bias so yea it's whatever I say since it's on video which I showed you slow crazy idiot

You lied, saying there were plenty of guys who had the same obsolete flaws in the 1970s and 1990s as the Louis era. I asked you to name the fighters you couldn't.cause it was a lie it never happened

You showed me fighters from this era and early 00s and said flaws like this as if you were exposing me, yet those guys are or were way more advanced than the 80s, 70s, 30s, and 40s.

And have flaws of this era not that era so that made no sense at all to even compare flaws

You continued to make that odd ****** comment just because a person says Louis was great. Those comments can change how he fought, which they can't. He looks trash compared because fighters became way more advanced. I proved it with video multiple times.

You told dr guys from the Louis era would do great now, yet no one, for a fact, made mid-top in the 70s and 90s with those exact flaws from the Louis era, so they wouldn’t now either.

I have no reason to speak to you anymore. You’re crazy, a liar, and very slow.

[Ascended]

Whatever you say!!!

https://********/mCXTIWRcdk8?si=GfS_GFZ4jOErozQj

Now imagine this at a slower speed, from a distance in black and white. Not to mention the other videos I posted that you ignored. Try again sparky.

So either you're him or you're using that ******, odd comment as if it makes sense, which it doesn't, so I'll tell you the same as I told that crazy idiot.

Still wouldn't change anything in the video; it's just a video in lower fps and watching it from a distance. How exactly would that change what's recorded in the video? It would need to be recorded from scratch to show a difference in what's on video.

A good example is the 1960s, when Liston fought in multiple matches in black and white, yet they were still way more advanced in angles, fluidity, timing, defense, and smarts than the novice Louis era. Also, a person could slow those matches down in the 1960s, which are already in black and white, and they would still be way more advanced in all those areas. I said so again, you're exposed, slow idiot.

[Dr. Z]

Louis came up in the 30's, his prime was '37 to '46 with the bulk of his best comp coming in the 40's. You can take my word for it or look it up yourself. Who says that should be Joe's record, you? Your opinion means little here, and it's in the record books. Live with it because you will never change it. Why do I need to post a link of Byrd looking for a rematch in a fight he won? Is this your go to know that you're out of other excuses?

Wlad opponents beaten over Louis? Lmao.....stop making a mockery of yourself already!!

Yeah Cowboy. Bums like Braddock the journeyman who was beaten by many people and have not fought in two years, but floored Joe Louis, Tommy Farr who stunned him on film , and a fat slob Galento who did the same ..." Bums of the month " they were called then and now, were special indeed. These bums would not be ranked at heavyweight today!!!! But they were ranked back in the 1930's. Someone had to be.

Wlad would not lose a round let alone get knocked down from these " bums " . Give him those small gloves that Louis used and he might be arrested.

Still no re-match for Vitali vs. Lewis? Why?

You make a mockery of yourself to anyone informed that has seen the films or reviewed the records of who these " Bums lost to "

[JAB5239]

Exposed bad stop trolling lied saying they weren't trash, as I said the videos show they were and all had the same obsolete flaws as each other, even Louis, who you multiple times lied saying he was the most skilled hw ever, which he isn't even in the in the top 50.

I asked you three times if you had seen all the flaws I named and deflected. You do see them, and you’re hurt. They exist on video because Louis was part of that trash era.

I described exactly what’s on video and anybody with good vision can see it I posted mutiple matches to you and they show in each match

I didn't lie or am I being bias so yea it's whatever I say since it's on video which I showed you slow crazy idiot

You lied, saying there were plenty of guys who had the same obsolete flaws in the 1970s and 1990s as the Louis era. I asked you to name the fighters you couldn't.cause it was a lie it never happened

You showed me fighters from this era and early 00s and said flaws like this as if you were exposing me, yet those guys are or were way more advanced than the 80s, 70s, 30s, and 40s.

And have flaws of this era not that era so that made no sense at all to even compare flaws

You continued to make that odd ****** comment just because a person says Louis was great. Those comments can change how he fought, which they can't. He looks trash compared because fighters became way more advanced. I proved it with video multiple times.

You told dr guys from the Louis era would do great now, yet no one, for a fact, made mid-top in the 70s and 90s with those exact flaws from the Louis era, so they wouldn’t now either.

I have no reason to speak to you anymore. You’re crazy, a liar, and very slow.

You've been given examples and ignore them. You know nothing, and it shows. Your whole routine is posting the same thing over and over, rinse and repeat. Pathetic.

[JAB5239]

So either you're him or you're using that ******, odd comment as if it makes sense, which it doesn't, so I'll tell you the same as I told that crazy idiot.

Still wouldn't change anything in the video; it's just a video in lower fps and watching it from a distance. How exactly would that change what's recorded in the video? It would need to be recorded from scratch to show a difference in what's on video.

A good example is the 1960s, when Liston fought in multiple matches in black and white, yet they were still way more advanced in angles, fluidity, timing, defense, and smarts than the novice Louis era. Also, a person could slow those matches down in the 1960s, which are already in black and white, and they would still be way more advanced in all those areas. I said so again, you're exposed, slow idiot.

You're special, and not in a good way.

[JAB5239]

Yeah Cowboy. Bums like Braddock the journeyman who was beaten by many people and have not fought in two years, but floored Joe Louis, Tommy Farr who stunned him on film , and a fat slob Galento who did the same ..." Bums of the month " they were called then and now, were special indeed. These bums would not be ranked at heavyweight today!!!! But they were ranked back in the 1930's. Someone had to be.

Wlad would not lose a round let alone get knocked down from these " bums " . Give him those small gloves that Louis used and he might be arrested.

Still no re-match for Vitali vs. Lewis? Why?

You make a mockery of yourself to anyone informed that has seen the films or reviewed the records of who these " Bums lost to "

That's rich coming from you. Wlad was stopped by Puritty (never a top 10 fighter) Sanders (not top 10 when he fought Wlad) and Brewster. You thinking no one would stand a chance is ridiculous. Can you prove no fighter from Louis era would be top 10? If not than you've got nothing. I'm smart enough to admit I can't prove they would definitely make the top ten, but not ****** enough to say the definitely wouldn't. How are you making out with the excuses for Vits not seeking a rematch after retiring on his stool?

[Willie Pep 229]

Yeah Cowboy. Bums like Braddock the journeyman who was beaten by many people and have not fought in two years, but floored Joe Louis, Tommy Farr who stunned him on film , and a fat slob Galento who did the same ..." Bums of the month " they were called then and now, were special indeed. These bums would not be ranked at heavyweight today!!!! But they were ranked back in the 1930's. Someone had to be.

Wlad would not lose a round let alone get knocked down from these " bums " . Give him those small gloves that Louis used and he might be arrested.

Still no re-match for Vitali vs. Lewis? Why?

You make a mockery of yourself to anyone informed that has seen the films or reviewed the records of who these " Bums lost to "

Don't call James Braddock a bum. Make your point but don't degrade courageous men.

Joe Louis call Jimmy Braddock the bravest man he ever fought.