Pryor's victory over Arguello tainted?

[them_apples]

I think Arguello would have taken Pryor had it not been the insta refresh Pryor was getting from his water bottle.

[StarshipTrooper]

He's rated as a Lightweight by most, since it was a division he was actually in and would have remained in longer if he could have gotten the fights he wanted there.

And Pryor fought at 135 when? Looks to me like he spent his entire career weighing more than the Lightweight limit. And since when is Cyber Boxing Zone an authority on anything? Isn't that where all the Max Kellerman wanna-bes hang out? Hey! While we're at it why not rate Roy Jones at 135 too?

Poet

[Obama]

And Pryor fought at 135 when? Looks to me like he spent his entire career weighing more than the Lightweight limit. And since when is Cyber Boxing Zone an authority on anything? Isn't that where all the Max Kellerman wanna-bes hang out? Hey! While we're at it why not rate Roy Jones at 135 too?

Poet

LOL. You're a funny guy.

We all know non title bouts can be held 2-3 lbs over the weight limit. And the point is he's rated by historians by as a Lightweight, CBZ is merely referencing what someone else had to say. I can write up the list straight from the The Ring if you'd like...

[StarshipTrooper]

LOL. You're a funny guy.

We all know non title bouts can be held 2-3 lbs over the weight limit. And the point is he's rated by historians by as a Lightweight, CBZ is merely referencing what someone else had to say. I can write up the list straight from the The Ring if you'd like...

There are always crack pots who will say anything and not care if it's counter-factual are not. There are certainly boxing historians who are also nuthuggers. Case in point: Hank Kaplan who spent his senile years nuthugging Michael Gerard aka Leg-Iron Mike.

Poet

[them_apples]

Case by case basis. Hearns simply was not interested, Pryor however was.

I'm guessing Pryor would fight him at 147? Hearns would have ended Pryors life at 147.

we are talking 6'1 fully grown Hearns hitting a willing target who was shorter than Roberto Duran. I seriously doubt Hearns was ducking him, he was at his confidence peak.

Pryor was a beast at 140, good puncher, tough, good stamina (even without the yoked bottle) good reach for his size and a great workrate that attacked from all angles. I think he was a naturally strong guy to.

Leonard and Hearns would have ate him up though, they wouldn't have been ducking him when they had guys like Hagler and Duran to worry about.

[sleazyfellow]

Thanks dumbass,because it's not like anyone here has heard of this fight or documentary.Tell me,Did you enjoy this documentary? Did you gain knowledge from this documentary? Do you feel you swallow on every little piece of **** that hbo feeds you in the future?

are you a sheep? are you that lazy that you have to rely on the understanding of a documentary?

Do everyone a favour and drop dead sheep

Yeah I liked it, thanks for asking love. I like to hear diffrent points of view, Im not some close minded joke account whos not open to debate and cant stand someone elses opinion thats diffrent. I dont know why I even responded to you, but Im crazy for you baby

[princemanspoper]

How cute,Did your mother type that out for you or did daddy have you sit on his lap while you typed it? Either way piss off and get the **** off my forum

[sleazyfellow]

sorry princemanpopper, yes I was sitting on my pappys lap while typing that, I will get off your forum for a limited time only, like the mc rib.

[Obama]

I'm guessing Pryor would fight him at 147? Hearns would have ended Pryors life at 147.

we are talking 6'1 fully grown Hearns hitting a willing target who was shorter than Roberto Duran. I seriously doubt Hearns was ducking him, he was at his confidence peak.

Pryor was a beast at 140, good puncher, tough, good stamina (even without the yoked bottle) good reach for his size and a great workrate that attacked from all angles. I think he was a naturally strong guy to.

Leonard and Hearns would have ate him up though, they wouldn't have been ducking him when they had guys like Hagler and Duran to worry about.

Ducking generally comes from the risk/financial reward ratio. Pryor couldn't earn them money like Duran and Hagler could, and if they lost it would be more damaging to their careers than losing to Duran or Hagler.

[BattlingNelson]

There's a great interview with Manny Steward on ESB. He says something that practically seals the matter:

"Q: You’ve trained a lot of great fighters over the years. What was your proudest moment as a trainer throughout your long and illustrious career?

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Another one was the second fight with Alexis Arguello and Arron Pryor, when Pryor asked me to train him. He was afraid going into the rematch with Arguello because Panama Lewis had been arrested and put in jail at the time, and he was the guy who trained him for the first fight, and even though he never admitted it in so many words, he told me that they were basically getting by with some kind of things that were not legal. So I said, “Well, I will show you how to beat Alexis, but we will beat him by using technique and then you won’t be hit by all those big punches. You know, you’re not going to come to me at the end of the round and where I’ll have something to give you in the drink. We’re going beat him by using different types of techniques.” In two and a half weeks of training, I was able to get him to the fight where it didn’t get that much notice, but he came in totally different with a haircut and a nice white outfit instead of that regular stuff. So I spent a lot of time with him, not just training, but also mentally and psychologically because I knew him well from the amateurs. I was right here in Michigan, so I used to catch him around a lot. So he knew that I knew his style, and he could box pretty good even though he was only five foot six. That was one of proudest moments I had, too, and I thought he fought a great fight without having to resort to any other things just by using his technique and boxing skills."