Pryor's victory over Arguello tainted?

[GJC]

No it's not tainted,just overrated,Arguello was a fading fighter by the time he fought Pryor and that's a fact.

He looked in pretty good shape to me in that fight and looked tip top against Watt and Mancini the year before.

Pryor is recognized as a great sorely because that win and I find that disgusting

It added to his reputation for sure but wasn't the be all and end all.

Like I said before this is another Dramaticized slanted drama HBO special that will give the typical ignorant ******ed casual viewer their entire life time's worth supply of boxing knowledge based upon myths,half truths and lies


I've said it before I'll say it again.If any boxing fan had any integrity at all,they shall not watch these ****** specials.Hbo already thinks you are blind sheep who are content with the meh fights they put out

Don't watch these specials so can't comment

[GJC]

There will always be a cloud of su****ion, especially because of Lewis' history, but its hard to call it tainted with no proof.

I'm like you I don't like to denigrate a fighter based on rumour but do think this one has legs.

[princemanspoper]

He looked in pretty good shape to me in that fight and looked tip top against Watt and Mancini the year before.

He looked like crap against Andrew Ganigan and James Busceme that very same year he fought Pryor,Atleast Watt and Mancini were top fighters,neither Ganigan or Busceme were

It added to his reputation for sure but wasn't the be all and end all.

Oh,did he have any another noteworthy victories? do you mean his victory over the 34 year old Cervantes?

[sonnyboyx2]

we will never know if the water was tampered with, But the 2nd fight after Arguello gets counted out Pryor stands looking into the crowd with his arms on the top rope, Lewis comes behing him and pushes his fingers under Pryors nostrils, its right there on the fight-film footage for all to see... i dont know what he was doing but it looks mighty suspisious

[JAB5239]

I'm like you I don't like to denigrate a fighter based on rumour but do think this one has legs.

I think so too. But without proof...........

[Doctor_Tenma]

From a 1986 interview with Peter Heller:

"Somebody gave him something, because if I was tired, he would have been tired too. Pryor didn't win the fight. The drugs made him win. Then I found out the Pryor people paid not to go to the exam that has to be done for any world championship fight. His exam never took place. They did mine, because I did it in front of people, before and after [the fight]. They never did it. They paid. The person that got the money told me."

This I didn't know.

[1SILVA]

Incidentally, despite spurious claims in the HBO documentary, Arguello needed a knockdown (to have a chance for a draw) or a stoppage by the 14th round when the stoppage occurred. The scorecards were (from Arguello's standpoint): 124-127 | judge: Ken Morita 127-125 | judge: Ove Ovesen 124-127. I'm not sure where this story of a "Hispanic official scoring every round for Arguello, so Pryor needed the KO" came from, but it appears to be completely fictional.

You are 100 percent correct. HBO should have done better research. If you can't get the scoring correct on one of the greatest fights ever, how credible is your documentary?

[billionaire]

lol at grown men thinking you can turn into superman by drinking ******* water.....the victory is tainted the resto thing happened less than a year later, i still think pryor wouldve won......pryor is very overatted by some because of this fight tho......he got hit so much by arguello, imagine a prime 140 rippin him up....

[JAB5239]

lol at grown men thinking you can turn into superman by drinking ******* water.....the victory is tainted the resto thing happened less than a year later, i still think pryor wouldve won......pryor is very overatted by some because of this fight tho......he got hit so much by arguello, imagine a prime 140 rippin him up....

Maybe. but Arguello is one of the best p4p fighters ever and put up a huge effort. I don't see the likes of Tszyu or Hatton being able to last with the Alexis who lost to Pryor in that 1st fight.

[ßringer]

None of us will ever know for sure.

But from my viewpoint, there was definitely something fishy going on in that corner that night. And given the history of shady dealings that follows Lewis, it lends an aura of credibility to the controversy.

Whatever the case ; Aaron Pryor didn't need whatever it was in that bottle to beat Arguello.

Did he benefit from it? Obviously. Just look at the way he darted out for the 14th round like a spring chicken.

But did he really need it?

I'm not so sure about that.

The rematch does nothing to disprove the controversy in my eyes, because by that time Arguello had already showed signs of slipping and took a hellacious beating in the first fight.

The Alexis that fought Pryor the first time, and the Alexis that showed up for the rematch were two completely different fighters.