George Foreman Vs Joe Louis

[shawnkemp804]

George Foreman lost to two people in his prime. Muhammad Ali and Jimmy Young , The same Jimmy Young who most people think beat Ali as well. Neither Young or Ali fought anything like Louis. Louis looked good against really small guys or slow, crude, bigger guys like Max and Buddy Baer, Primo Carnera and Abe Simon. Foreman is far superior to any of those guys in skilled, power, strength and chin. Joe Louis was knocked down and hurt by sub 200 pound guys. Hell 170 pound light punching Billy Conn had Joe Louis hurt. George Foreman would brutally stop Louis in the first round.

But you will have these sad little people who will tell you that Louis would win because Burt Sugar (or some other simpleton) said Joe Louis was the best heavyweight of all time. Joe Louis isn't even a top 100 heavyweight of all time. Again Joe Louis looked good because of the low level of opposition he faced. If you honestly can't grasp that if you put any half way decent fighter from the 1970's, 80's, 90's or early 2000's against the same opponents that Louis faced that they would be undefeated then you really need to stop watching boxing.

[Willie Pep 229]

George Foreman lost to two people in his prime. Muhammad Ali and Jimmy Young , The same Jimmy Young who most people think beat Ali as well. Neither Young or Ali fought anything like Louis. Louis looked good against really small guys or slow, crude, bigger guys like Max and Buddy Baer, Primo Carnera and Abe Simon. Foreman is far superior to any of those guys in skilled, power, strength and chin. Joe Louis was knocked down and hurt by sub 200 pound guys. Hell 170 pound light punching Billy Conn had Joe Louis hurt. George Foreman would brutally stop Louis in the first round.

But you will have these sad little people who will tell you that Louis would win because Burt Sugar (or some other simpleton) said Joe Louis was the best heavyweight of all time. Joe Louis isn't even a top 100 heavyweight of all time. Again Joe Louis looked good because of the low level of opposition he faced. If you honestly can't grasp that if you put any half way decent fighter from the 1970's, 80's, 90's or early 2000's against the same opponents that Louis faced that they would be undefeated then you really need to stop watching boxing.

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[Ascended]

No one made mid fighting like they did in 30-40s in 70s,Joe was a novice compared,everyone who said joe would win is a lunatic

[Rockin']

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[Willie Pep 229]

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[DooGee#33]

For the folks going with Foreman. I'm trying to picture how he can do it. George is going to move forward maybe behind his jab but.sometimes he forgot to use it.

Louis can jab with Foreman but thsee two would find themselves at midrange right away. I don't see The Brown Bomber having the problem.

2 legendary sluggers I cant say i would risk the house on it but Joe Louis would be the one getting off first, ripping shorter, faster more fluid combinations, with the better accuracy. Joe could counter Georgeq

Foreman is stronger but his defense costs him this fight as.well as wider, at times telegraphed swings. Louis wouldn't. be scared to fired back.

Joe Louis the betrer puncher here. Quicker hands, better combos, better technique. Louis didn't crouch somewhat negating Foreman' s uppercut.


Joe Louis 60%
George Foreman 40%.

[DooGee#33]

Joe Louis gets knocked out, he had a suspect chin and was too small to hurt Foreman. Foreman had too much power for him and Joe Louis' skills won't help him in this fight.
Foreman KO's him with ease and brutally in the first three rounds.

Foreman by KO round 1.

Louis was too small to hurt Foreman?? Foreman.217Lbs 6-3. Louis 201lbs 6-1ish

So the many contenders Louis knocked under the canvas that were as big or bigger than Foreman? Why werent they too big? Guys up over 6-6 250lbs, went face first earlier than the smaller ones..

What fights of Joe Louis can we review where he was scoring clean shots but his opponents were not fazed?

[them_apples]

Louis has plenty of bouts on his resume that would describe him capable of getting the job done. Foreman is a great fighter no doubt, it likely won’t be easy. Joe might be the goat though, on fight night Foreman is gonna eat a lot of leather, hard leather.

[them_apples]

Louis was too small to hurt Foreman?? Foreman.217Lbs 6-3. Louis 201lbs 6-1ish

So the many contenders Louis knocked under the canvas that were as big or bigger than Foreman? Why werent they too big? Guys up over 6-6 250lbs, went face first earlier than the smaller ones..

What fights of Joe Louis can we review where he was scoring clean shots but his opponents were not fazed?

Louis 6 ft 2, 205 foreman 6 ft 3.5 and 220.

as you said Louis busted up even bigger men. Size won’t matter anyways, this isn’t that big if a size gap regardless.

[Dr. Z]

If Goerge catches him it lights out, and there is a good possibility of that happening. On the other hand, if George doesn't get him by the 5th he'll get beat up and stopped himself.

I think you underestimate Louis' footwork a bit. Joe wasn't a dancer by any stretch, but he wasn't as slow a foot as many make him out to be. His style was specificly designed to bring his opponents into his power zone. mI can't recall which of his opponents described it, but they said something to the effect that his footspeed was very decieving. That he looked to be moving slowly but could close the gap very swiftly.

I realize this is a reply form 2009! But both fighters were long retired by then. Foreman was good at cutting off the ring, and Louis footwork was well bettered by several of his opponents in his own era.

I don't think I am undereastimating Louis footwork, or his escape ability. Or his defense. If short and fat Toney Galeno and Jimmy Braddock can floor you, and the slow handed Buddy Bear also do the trick, Foreman would land his best too. And Louis did not have AlI's chin or defense so I think Foreman tiring out is unlikely..

I'd say it is 80% likely Foreman wins