The Most Overrated ''Old School Fighter''?

[shawnkemp804]

There are tons, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson and basically every so called top fighter before the 1960's could all into that category.

[QueensburyRules]

There are tons, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson and basically every so called top fighter before the 1960's could all into that category.

- - Them pre60s fighters didn't have U advanced ex.lax movements, it's true.



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[ShoulderRoll]

Rocky Marciano for me.

The 49-0 record has caused recent generations to elevate his status far above how the old timers rated him.

[QueensburyRules]

Rocky Marciano for me.

The 49-0 record has caused recent generations to elevate his status far above how the old timers rated him.

- - Nat as old timer as it gets rated him about 7th when he retired.

IBRO full of old timers still have him at 7th.

Yup, the way it was, is, but may not forever be.

[ShoulderRoll]

- - Nat as old timer as it gets rated him about 7th when he retired.

IBRO full of old timers still have him at 7th.

Yup, the way it was, is, but may not forever be.

Right. #7 when he retired.

Since then we have had many other heavyweight champions such as Ali and Frazier and Foreman and Holmes and Tyson and Lennox and the Klitschkos. So it stands to reason that Marciano’s ranking should rightfully drop, not be elevated because of the undefeated record.

[Willie Pep 229]

Marciano never went into a big fight without half the people believing he might lose.

He never reached the superstar status, (i.e. thought unbeatable) like Sullivan, Dempsey, or Louis enjoyed at one time or another.

Marciano was always doubted until he quit undefeated. So I agree the undefeated record made the legend grow.

[QueensburyRules]

Right. #7 when he retired.

Since then we have had many other heavyweight champions such as Ali and Frazier and Foreman and Holmes and Tyson and Lennox and the Klitschkos. So it stands to reason that Marciano’s ranking should rightfully drop, not be elevated because of the undefeated record.

- - I recorded the then reality at Rocky retirement and today's reality.

Your reality is yours and yours alone though you could form a glee club of Rocky haters for a consensus...

[ShoulderRoll]

- - I recorded the then reality at Rocky retirement and today's reality.

Your reality is yours and yours alone though you could form a glee club of Rocky haters for a consensus...

He was in the bottom of the top 10 in the eyes of the old timers and they certainly never rated him above Jack Dempsey.

Today’s reality should be that he is out of the top 10. Instead of being overrated by the moderns to the point that he is consistently picked to beat Dempsey in mythical matchups.

[QueensburyRules]

He was in the bottom of the top 10 in the eyes of the old timers and they certainly never rated him above Jack Dempsey.

Today’s reality should be that he is out of the top 10. Instead of being overrated by the moderns to the point that he is consistently picked to beat Dempsey in mythical matchups.

- - Welcome to go to annual IBRO meetings to lecture them oldtimers who continue to rate Rocky where Nat rated him.

Surely you would be gracious enough to provide us with the youtube video for our enlightenment......

[Ivich]

Marciano never went into a big fight without half the people believing he might lose.

He never reached the superstar status, (i.e. thought unbeatable) like Sullivan, Dempsey, or Louis enjoyed at one time or another.

Marciano was always doubted until he quit undefeated. So I agree the undefeated record made the legend grow.

Marciano was the favourite in every title fight he was in,