How would Frazier fare in today's climate?

[The Surgeon]

Saying that Klitschko has some bitch in him is a little harsh don't you think? I mean, he hasn't showed anything resembling that since and it's kind of hard to fight if you can't lift your arm. Have people fought through that sort of stuff before? Maybe, but there's a wide gap between "biggest heart ever" and "a little bitch in him." That being said, Frazier has the biggest heart ever. I can see Vitali slicing and blowing Frazier's face up with a ******* of punches and maybe stopping him late on a TKO. The gameplan I'm thinking of is like against Arreola, constantly throwing off the backfoot. That could blunt Frazier's offense a bit and give him chances to land some bombs coming in. Vitali doesn't usually commit to his punches, but when he does, watch out.

I dont think its harsh, it happened and we all saw it, he has some biitch in him. Bottom Line. Im not calling him a biitch tho, he should guts and heart vs Lewis for example, im just highlighting the difference between a regular championship fighters heart and the heart of Smokin Joe Frazier! Honestly it annoyed me a touch after Haye vs Wlad Vitali saying to the sky team how unexceptable it was to make an excuse and that he would rather die in the ring than quit when infact he has already quit with only minutes to go in a fight he was winning...

Vitali has heart tho. And he has a shot at beating Frazier but imo he will struggle with the flat out pressure, bobbing defence and sheer workrate along with the body punching of the far smaller Frazier

[BigStereotype]

I dont think its harsh, it happened and we all saw it, he has some biitch in him. Bottom Line. Im not calling him a biitch tho, he should guts and heart vs Lewis for example, im just highlighting the difference between a regular championship fighters heart and the heart of Smokin Joe Frazier! Honestly it annoyed me a touch after Haye vs Wlad Vitali saying to the sky team how unexceptable it was to make an excuse and that he would rather die in the ring than quit when infact he has already quit with only minutes to go in a fight he was winning...

Vitali has heart tho. And he has a shot at beating Frazier but imo he will struggle with the flat out pressure, bobbing defence and sheer workrate along with the body punching of the far smaller Frazier

Yeah, Frazier's bobbing could really bother him, considering he's already punching about three feet down. And I've never seen him against a flat-out pressure fighter like that, probably because there's not many heavyweights who can do that. It would be a unique experience for the both of them.

[RubenSonny]

Frazier knocks out both brothers, Vitali lasting longer.

[GoogleMe]

Wladimir would lift Frazier off the ground with his uppercut - it's deadly. Wladimirs left hook is even deadlier, just too bad he does not use it more, he'd have won all his latest fights before the end of the 4th round.

You guys overrate old guys. Wladimir wins fights with his jab alone - that's how good he is, why take chances then???

[JAB5239]

Wladimir would lift Frazier off the ground with his uppercut - it's deadly. Wladimirs left hook is even deadlier, just too bad he does not use it more, he'd have won all his latest fights before the end of the 4th round.

You guys overrate old guys. Wladimir wins fights with his jab alone - that's how good he is, why take chances then???

Because he fights guys who stand in front of him and don't know how to slip a jab. Wlad has a good jab, but lets not overrate him, his comp is awful.

[SBleeder]

There isn't a single heavyweight champion since Holmes who I'd even give a chance against Foreman.

[Sugarj]

There isn't a single heavyweight champion since Holmes who I'd even give a chance against Foreman.

I'd give a chance to prime Holyfield and prime Bowe. Granted, Foreman would be favorite.

Both had great chins, prime Foreman was no 12 round fighter. These two would surely be risky.

[The Surgeon]

I'd give a chance to prime Holyfield and prime Bowe. Granted, Foreman would be favorite.

Both had great chins, prime Foreman was no 12 round fighter. These two would surely be risky.

Both guys get hit too much to hang with prime George imo even if they had good chins. Bowe was a punchbag at times man

[StarshipTrooper]

Wladimir would lift Frazier off the ground with his uppercut - it's deadly. Wladimirs left hook is even deadlier, just too bad he does not use it more, he'd have won all his latest fights before the end of the 4th round.

You guys overrate old guys. Wladimir wins fights with his jab alone - that's how good he is, why take chances then???

As opposed to you overrating the current cesspool of heavyweights? :thinking9:

Poet

[bojangles1987]

Wladimir would lift Frazier off the ground with his uppercut - it's deadly. Wladimirs left hook is even deadlier, just too bad he does not use it more, he'd have won all his latest fights before the end of the 4th round.

You guys overrate old guys. Wladimir wins fights with his jab alone - that's how good he is, why take chances then???

Did it ever occur to you that Wlad has nothing other than the jab, a straight right, and the occasional left hook? What makes you think he can just pull the ability to move better, fight inside, and throw punches he never throws effectively out of his ass? That's like me saying Ali will kill Wlad to the body, when there is nothing to suggest Ali would do so.