Ray Robinson in his prime

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  • portuge puncher
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    #21
    robinson was unbeatable in his prime

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      #22
      Originally posted by portuge puncher
      robinson was unbeatable in his prime
      Robinson was beat by LaMotta in his prime...

      Unbeatable by Welterweights and below would still be wrong to say, but it's a hell of a lot better than unbeatable period.

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      • JAB5239
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        #23
        Originally posted by portuge puncher
        robinson was unbeatable in his prime

        EVERYBODY is beatable. Robinson is the greatest fighter ever, in my mind. But there is always a style or a person who can beat even the best on any given night. Ray pretty much never ran into that at 147, but there are a few fighters I think could turn the trick on the right night. That said.....at 147 he's as close to unbeatable as any fighter ever.

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        • Richie-G
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          #24
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          EVERYBODY is beatable. Robinson is the greatest fighter ever, in my mind. But there is always a style or a person who can beat even the best on any given night. Ray pretty much never ran into that at 147, but there are a few fighters I think could turn the trick on the right night. That said.....at 147 he's as close to unbeatable as any fighter ever.
          Who do you think could beat Robinson then? I mean from recent times??

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          • El Jesus
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            Looking at this footage is great, but i think like wmute says, the fights after 55 really say something about how great he is. His technique in his prime is practically flawless, when he slips, he does it just enough to launch a counter hook or unload with a combination, Most of all he is always relaxed, what an amazing fighter.

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            • El Jesus
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              #26
              Originally posted by Richie-G
              Who do you think could beat Robinson then? I mean from recent times??
              If we are looking from welter to middle. Guys that i think might pose a problem are possibly Vernon Forrest, Bernard Hopkins, possibly marvin hagler. Mayweather jr is in the back of my mind simply because he might be fast enough to possibly time his movement, he really excels at doing that. Vernon Forrest without the injury would be a threat simply because his size and his jab would be an issue.

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              • Richie-G
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                #27
                Originally posted by El Jesus
                If we are looking from welter to middle. Guys that i think might pose a problem are possibly Vernon Forrest, Bernard Hopkins, possibly marvin hagler. Mayweather jr is in the back of my mind simply because he might be fast enough to possibly time his movement, he really excels at doing that. Vernon Forrest without the injury would be a threat simply because his size and his jab would be an issue.
                I also reckon whitaker would give him a few problems.........

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Richie-G
                  I also reckon whitaker would give him a few problems.........
                  Yes. The only reason i didint mention him is because of one thing really, when whitaker uses that upper body movement, robinson might be fast enough to catch him off gaurd, thats the only thing i fear about him. However i think whitaker would pose ALOT of problems, and again, like mayweather, would time robinson and bait him, but robinson, you can tell just by looking at those videos would do just the same. From the modern era its telling that very few off top could even compete with him.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Richie-G
                    Who do you think could beat Robinson then? I mean from recent times??
                    On the right night, at welterweight.....Ray Leonard, Hearns and the Duran from the first Leonard fight.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      On the right night, at welterweight.....Ray Leonard, Hearns and the Duran from the first Leonard fight.
                      I tend to think that barring any sort of prohibitive style matchup any ATG is capable of beating another ATG in a one-off fight. The real test is how they do against each other in a series.

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