Ray Robinson in his prime

[Kinetic Linking]

very good point about atgs, I'd say that's a definite rule with occasional excepts. Some ATGs are just better than others, of course.

[TheGreatA]

Here's something extremely rare:



Ray Robinson at the peak of his welterweight career defending his title against Bernard Docusen.

[fight_professor]

Had seem some SRR before, but was priveledged to watch the 3 part RSPN special on him. Magnificent fighter, the greatest who has ever lived. Wonderful coordination, brilliant going forward, counter-attacking, speed, power, finesse.

This is the pinnacle of boxing.

[TheGreatA]

Ray Robinson vs Bobby Dykes from 1950:



Dykes is another fighter who doesn't get mentioned much today but was a very capable fighter at his best. He could have been a champion with better luck.

Despite never winning the title, he had wins over men like Gavilan (albeit old but he gave a prime Gavilan a tough fight as well), Giardello, Turner, Giambra, DeJohn, Wilson...

[Boxing_12]

So this is 100% a Prime Ray Robinson then?

[TheGreatA]

So this is 100% a Prime Ray Robinson then?

Not really. I just used that title so people would watch these videos.

The only film that exists of a prime Robinson is some grainy footage of his bouts against Sammy Angott, Bernard Docusen, Georgie Abrams and a couple of journeymen.

[Boxing_12]

Not really. I just used that title so people would watch these videos.

The only film that exists of a prime Robinson is some grainy footage of his bouts against Sammy Angott, Bernard Docusen, Georgie Abrams and a couple of journeymen.

Is there any chance of uploading the Angott and Abrams fights? And why have people said for years and years that there is no footage of a prime Ray Robinson then, when there is?

[TheGreatA]

Is there any chance of uploading the Angott and Abrams fights? And why have people said for years and years that there is no footage of a prime Ray Robinson then, when there is?

It's a bit of a myth. There is a lot of film of Robinson, more than 50+ films of his fights from what I've counted which should more than enough to make up an "educated" opinion about him.

Here are a couple of clips of those fights:


1:40

[boxingbuff]

It's a bit of a myth. There is a lot of film of Robinson, more than 50+ films of his fights from what I've counted which should more than enough to make up an "educated" opinion about him.

Here are a couple of clips of those fights:


1:40

Are you talking about SRR at WELTERWEIGHT?

It's a myth there is no film on him at WELTERWEIGHT?

There are over 50 fights of SRR at WELTERWEIGHT? Could you please name these fights?

Thank You

[TheGreatA]

Are you talking about SRR at WELTERWEIGHT?

It's a myth there is no film on him at WELTERWEIGHT?

There are over 50 fights of SRR at WELTERWEIGHT? Could you please name these fights?

Thank You

Sorry I meant that there are over 50 filmed fights of Robinson in total.

There are already a couple of his welterweight fights posted on this thread. Check out the Charley Fusari and Bernard Docusen fights. There is also the Sammy Angott fight of which you can see a brief clip in the post you quoted.

Some other Robinson fights exist from the 1940's but most of them are over the weight fights against journeymen, for example the Cliff Beckett, Tony Riccio, Georgie Abrams, Freddie Flores.