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  • #11
    Great, great post. Thanks for these great vids of the master at his work. However, I had always heard there was no footage of SRR at his best.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by kmcc505 View Post
      Great, great post. Thanks for these great vids of the master at his work. However, I had always heard there was no footage of SRR at his best.
      To be honest these videos are not of Robinson at the peak of his career since he was around 30 years old at the time.

      There is film of an even younger Ray Robinson though, from around 1946 but these films are hard to acquire. You can see a couple of short clips in the highlight video that I posted.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        Not to mention the ubiquitous "Robinson had no defense" lines when the only footage of Robinson they've seen is the last round of the second Turpin fight when Ray was going all-out for the KO.

        Poet
        To be fair, large part of Robinson's defense was his offense and his toughness. His defense was weaker than the rest of his game.

        But when you have a combo punching offensive machine with KO power in both hands, a great chin, incredible speed and reflexes, etc... "weakest part of his game" is not a very relevant statement

        A fight were a more subtle defense would have paid off big time is the Maxim one, where he could have saved a lot more energy, than he did in using all that movement and pumping the jab.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
          To be honest these videos are not of Robinson at the peak of his career since he was around 30 years old at the time.

          There is film of an even younger Ray Robinson though, from around 1946 but these films are hard to acquire. You can see a couple of short clips in the highlight video that I posted.
          Wow. I did not know that. What do you know about them?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by wmute View Post
            Wow. I did not know that. What do you know about them?
            There are highlights of the third Sammy Angott fight from 1946 which got Robinson his shot at the vacant welterweight title, highlights against Freddie Flores from 1949, highlights of the Tony Riccio fight from 1946, highlights of the first Cliff Beckett fight from 1946 and supposedly 25 minutes of footage of the welterweight title defense against Bernard Docusen from 1948.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
              There are highlights of the third Sammy Angott fight from 1946 which got Robinson his shot at the vacant welterweight title, highlights against Freddie Flores from 1949, highlights of the Tony Riccio fight from 1946, highlights of the first Cliff Beckett fight from 1946 and supposedly 25 minutes of footage of the welterweight title defense against Bernard Docusen from 1948.
              Also 16 minutes of highlights of Ray Robinson's fight against middleweight Georgie Abrams from 1947.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
                There are highlights of the third Sammy Angott fight from 1946 which got Robinson his shot at the vacant welterweight title, highlights against Freddie Flores from 1949, highlights of the Tony Riccio fight from 1946, highlights of the first Cliff Beckett fight from 1946 and supposedly 25 minutes of footage of the welterweight title defense against Bernard Docusen from 1948.
                Bumping to ask about this footage. Do you know if it's anywhere online?

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                • #18
                  It's a shame that there are so little videos of Robinson in his prime. I'm not sure if it's rare but I've seen footage of Robinson in the amateurs, I think it was for the GGs.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
                    Bumping to ask about this footage. Do you know if it's anywhere online?
                    http://www.legendsondisc.com/ROBINSON.html

                    ive bought this its got alot of fights from when he was older e.g Olson,Turpin,Basilio, Fullmer and Graziano, but one of the discs has rare footage on it, I think this might be what your talking about. (not sure though, although it is definetely older than the other fights and robinson does look better)

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
                      Bumping to ask about this footage. Do you know if it's anywhere online?
                      No but I'm almost certain that it will appear someday. A lot of previously rare footage is now out there on youtube.

                      If you have any money to spend you could buy Robinson's career set as the poster above me stated.

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