Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
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Bruno was doing well against Lewis until he was hurt and Lewis was able to finish him off. In both fights with Tyson, Bruno did not do nearly as well. While Bruno certainly isn't a great, he is a useful measuring stick when comparing fighters such as Lewis, Tyson and McCall.
Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
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I don't think (and did not say) that the knockdown incident is an excuse for Tyson, but you gave what I consider to be a biased view of Ali's fight with Cooper, which doesn't mention that the victory was on cuts against someone who often lost fights in that way, and does not mention the incident with the glove.
If someone was to offer a fair assessment of that fight I think he would mention those things, just as he would mention the knockdown/referee in Douglas-Tyson, Tunney-Dempsey and Ali-Liston. It's not an excuse, but you act as if he did nothing to try to overcome a difficult fight, when in fact he came very close to scoring a KO.
Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
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Douglas showed up for the fight more than 14lbs overweight. On my copy (British TV) the commentators remark before the start of the fight that Douglas is not in good condition and are talking about how bad he looks within 60 seconds of the fight starting, so it isn't something that people only came up with to justify the loss; it was apparent before the fight even started.
Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
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Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
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However, after beating Holyfield he was KO'd by someone who had been inactive for 18 months, was not considered top 5, possibly not even top 10, and was coming off a loss to Tommy Morrison. If you look at Douglas' career without Tyson and Moorer's career without Holyfield there is not a massive difference.
Most people would accept that Holyfield had a bad night against Moorer, as Lewis did against McCall and Rahman. You do not seem to be willing to do the same thing when it comes to Tyson though?
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