Tyson being past his prime when Douglas beat him???

[kayjay]

It's not about Tyson, it's about Douglas.

Fanboys want to deny a man's accomplishments. The same little boys say Rahman beat Lewis only when Lewis didn't train properly, because he was too busy playing a boxer in a fifteen-second movie stint.

[Boogie Nights]

what's pathetic about you, slick, is that you read some yellow press and assume things for truth what some writers yap about.

you made some ridicilous claims about tyson, in his prime, ducking lennox Lewis, then when you found out Lennox was still an amateur you changed your tune that tyson was ducking lewis in the 90s.

Then by the time mike started going through his trial and serving time Mercer was in the rankings taking care of Cooper, and setting his title shot in late october against Morrison, and tyson was ducking him behind bars.

you blame him for not fighting Bowe, when Rid**** was still a nobody, literally, and by the time Tyson got out, Bowe was getting his nuts handed to him by golota.

When in the 90s the rumoured fight didnt come off between mercer, you automatically blame tyson. Your reason: Everyone wanted tyson. lol, just because they wanted him, and didnt get to fight, the blame automatically falls on tyson for not making the fight.

then Tyson, being a human being susceptible to injuries, gets hurt and cant fight with Evander, that gives you fuel to keep saying it was a duck. You're just an idiot man, seriously

and you accuse tyson for not fighting the dangerous Lennox lewis after 4 year inactivity in jail??? of course he took on the title holder, and easier fight with Bruce Seldon, why risk loosing to a more dangerous fighter with no real preparation.

the point is, those fights did happen, and mike got beat, which im sure made you very happy. He fought those fights, and he wasnt at his best, there were no advantages to him.

you are the first tyson hater who came up with these imaginary ducks, proves you know ****ing **** and yet try to sound reasonable. what a ****ty poster you are seriously

[Boogie Nights]

You don't even respond to my posts above so clearly you are through.

and i did answer your question in my very first post in this ****ty thread

the difference in that fight is that one guy brought his best stuff on display, the other guy didnt

yet that wasnt enough for you, you kept provoking this discussion and spewing all this garbage about adversity, ducking, not dealing with resistance, blah blah blah

it's obvious tyson was still fresh at the time buster fought him, but that's not what you wanted to know. You made this thread as a cover up, so you could continue riding on tyson's ass

[slicksouthpaw16]

what's pathetic about you, slick, is that you read some yellow press and assume things for truth what some writers yap about.

you made some ridicilous claims about tyson, in his prime, ducking lennox Lewis, then when you found out Lennox was still an amateur you changed your tune that tyson was ducking lewis in the 90s.

These stories were actually confirmed. Tyson wanted no part of Lewis and instead took on Bruce Seldon, the greatest heavyweight champion of all time. When someone have been calling you out for years and promotor offers him millions as step aside money and instead, you fight one of the worst paper champions of all. Is that not avoiding somone?

Then by the time mike started going through his trial and serving time Mercer was in the rankings taking care of Cooper, and setting his title shot in late october against Morrison, and tyson was ducking him behind bars.

you blame him for not fighting Bowe, when Rid**** was still a nobody, literally, and by the time Tyson got out, Bowe was getting his nuts handed to him by golota.

Tyson/Bowe could have still happened even when Bowe WAS shot. Since i can't convince you myself, this is another short article from the book ''Rocky Lives'' that discuss Tyson's situation so these are FACTS that you cannot claim are wrong. I figure I'd type some out, just the part about Tyson and Bowe.

''By the time Mike Tyson returned, many boxing writers were simply glad that the charade of paper champions would be ending. Besides, it looked like Don King wanted Tyson to unify the heavyweight title and like he would be able to do so (controlling two of the three champions). In fact, it didn't take Tyson long to win his first belt. With Don King pushing his weight around with the WBC, Mike found himself with the number one contender before he even fought, and in the title fight with the WBC champion Frank Bruno after only two fights. Tyson destroyed Bruno is three lopsided rounds, helping to reestablish himself as the biggest heavyweight champion of the world. King was determinded to keep Mike's run as Smooth as possible, as the way to so that was to avoid Riddock Bowe and Lennox Lewis. Bowe would be easier, as he would be locked in a fued with Andrew Golota that would end his career.''

When in the 90s the rumoured fight didnt come off between mercer, you automatically blame tyson. Your reason: Everyone wanted tyson. lol, just because they wanted him, and didnt get to fight, the blame automatically falls on tyson for not making the fight.

then Tyson, being a human being susceptible to injuries, gets hurt and cant fight with Evander, that gives you fuel to keep saying it was a duck. You're just an idiot man, seriously

I have to figure. Since all of these fighters wanted Tyson and NONE were made until he was desperate for money, then you could only blame him. These fighters wanted their paydays against the man and as the article from the book stated above, Don King wanted to keep Tyson's momentum going and not face anyone with a pulse.

Tyson's first and only injury when he was in his prime was when he fought Holyfield. I can actually provide an article to that as well but its useless, you wouldn't believe it. At this point you are just arguing a lost cause. You haven't even responded to the first articles that i postes and continue to ignore everything that i say.

and you accuse tyson for not fighting the dangerous Lennox lewis after 4 year inactivity in jail??? of course he took on the title holder, and easier fight with Bruce Seldon, why risk loosing to a more dangerous fighter with no real preparation.

You just said it yourself. Exactly, Tyson avoided Lewis to fight an easier champion and his promoter paid Lewis step aside money so he wouldn't complain. You are learning things without me having to tell you.

the point is, those fights did happen, and mike got beat, which im sure made you very happy. He fought those fights, and he wasnt at his best, there were no advantages to him.

you are the first tyson hater who came up with these imaginary ducks, proves you know ****ing **** and yet try to sound reasonable. what a ****ty poster you are seriously

Again, i have nothing against Tyson and i have his entire career set on DVD, even his Olympic trials. I tell the truth, all of these stars wanted him in his prime and neither fight was made until he needed money. That must tell you something. Dong King did a good job and all credits to him because he managed his fighter well. If he didn't and threw him in with a prime Evander, Bowe, Lewis or maybe even Mercer, then Tyson's name wouldn't be mentioned much today. Buster Douglas was the first to get him.

[The Iron Man]

You said it there m8. Don King wanted to make it smooth, so he avoided Bowe and Lewis. At this staged mike was brain washed, and don controlled him more or less.
I think after the bruno or seldon fight, tyson was asked is is holyfield next, and don is shouting in the back we dont want holyfield. But tyson makes it known he does. ill try and track this down for u

[smash ko]

tyson actually won wen he knocked dougles down it was more then 10seconds the bad reefre let him up and tyson was pissed about that and he should of trained harder

[butterfly1964]

I have never heard that one before. Odds are odds anyway we look at it. Schmelling was better than Douglas and ranked higher, as Yogi pointed out. He was also a champion where as Douglas was a very good journeyman as the article that i have posted pointed out. Its specifically stated that Douglas was another bum that Tyson was suppoose to blow out, in those words.

The Tyson-Spinks odds were 7 to 1 if you're interested, and we all know that that fight was one of the biggest promoted fights of all-time. And if we take a fight like let's say Liston-Clay in 1964 one of the biggest upsets and supposed mismatches of all-time the odds were, oh **** 7 to 1! So I guess either Spinks was either a huge underdog (which he wasn't), or Clay was a really live underdog (which he definetely wasn't), or both!

[butterfly1964]

leave it alone brother, it's pointless. you can see him judging one's ability and record by the odds of one fight. you'll have better luck talking to a brick wall. my advice just save the nerves and move on

I don't give up easily. I feel I can either change his mind or just keep pounding it in until he just gives up entirely. If you ask people around this forum, they will tell you that.

[them_apples]

Tyson haters are just as delusional as the fanboys, FFS.

I absolutely hate how Tyson get's hated on for the ear biting incident and his imprisonment, it's like somehow that takes away all his achievements? It's disgusting that boxing fans will discredit boxing's biggest fighter ever.

It's obvious he turned into a scum bag for a while when he started hanging around DKP, but on his way up to the Title he was the best boxer in the world with incredible skills.

[StarshipTrooper]

tyson actually won wen he knocked dougles down it was more then 10seconds the bad reefre let him up and tyson was pissed about that and he should of trained harder

Give it up. I've been hearing Tyson's devoted rim-jobbers whining about that **** for 17 years You guys really need to suck on your binkies and get the **** over it. Last time I checked it's the referee's count that counts: The timekeeper can sit there and diddle his polizzle and it don't make a damn bit of difference. Once a fight starts the referee is in charge and his ruling is final, period, end of story. If he says Tyson is disqualified for ear-chewing than Tyson is DQed period. Jose Sulaiman's has no imput. Don King can't bribe his way out of it. The referee is GOD once the bell rings.

PS. No posts whining about headbutts either: I've had to listen to THAT **** for 10 years now; enough to fill hundreds of y'alls dirty diapers. So please, spare me the boo hooing or I'll have to call a whaaaaambulance for you

Poet