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How would a young Mike Tyson fair against the real big heavyweights of today.

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  • #51
    Mike had small nuts to carry.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
      Apparently, you're thinking of someone very different from the Mike Tyson we're all discussing.
      I thought we were discussing young Mike Tyson . The Mike Tyson that punched holes in dressing room walls , charged at the opponent as soon as the bell sounds and tried to break bones with every punch. You honestly think Wilder would even step in the ring with that Mike Tyson ?

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      • #53
        Wilder has a glass chin lol. As Lennox said, hes never been in there with someone like prime tyson. Tyson would knock wilder out in one to two rounds.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by *Makaveli* View Post
          I thought we were discussing young Mike Tyson . The Mike Tyson that punched holes in dressing room walls , charged at the opponent as soon as the bell sounds and tried to break bones with every punch. You honestly think Wilder would even step in the ring with that Mike Tyson ?
          Have you ever Boxed? Not put on gloves and fooled around with your buddies, like actually entered a Boxing gym and hung around for more than a week?


          Tyson couldn't put away Tillis. Seriously, if Frank Bruno could hurt him and Douglas could stop him, he's in for a career-ending ass ***** from Wilder.

          Wilder would walk around with Mike on his shoulders like I did with my kids. Wilder is a monster, and Mike didn't want nothing to do with anything that had a pulse.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
            Have you ever Boxed? Not put on gloves and fooled around with your buddies, like actually entered a Boxing gym and hung around for more than a week?


            Tyson couldn't put away Tillis. Seriously, if Frank Bruno could hurt him and Douglas could stop him, he's in for a career-ending ass ***** from Wilder.

            Wilder would walk around with Mike on his shoulders like I did with my kids. Wilder is a monster, and Mike didn't want nothing to do with anything that had a pulse.
            Wilder is not that strong lol. Where are you getting this notion from? he looked blown up at 212. He might actually be a 6 ft 7 cruiserweight. He is top heavy and flat footed even when he comes in light.

            Tillis is defintely a superior boxer than Wilder. So it's not a good comparison as to what Wilder could do. Douglas is a vastly superior boxer as well. When has wilder ever thrown combinations or jabs like those guys? Wilder is flat footed wild swinging donkey who got fed cab drivers and mentally didnt deserve the fame he got, so now hes gone crazy. They say you get what you deserve, and he didnt deserve that.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by thebrownbomber_ View Post
              Wilder has a glass chin lol. As Lennox said, hes never been in there with someone like prime tyson. Tyson would knock wilder out in one to two rounds.
              Aglass chin!?!?!?!?

              Fury put Wilder through the woodchipper for a full 7 rounds and could only elicit a standing stoppage. Wilder wasn't going down without a fight.


              Can you reference one fight where the guy who couldn't stop Mitch Green endured that kind of abuse?

              Lewis is a *****. He was stopped by McCall and Rahman. He was bullied by Mercer and an old and broken Holyfield. He tried to get one over on Vitali and it almost blew up in his face... he high-tailed it from the sport after that.And worst of all? HE HIMSELF AVOIDED A PRIME TYSON! Why did Lewis, who is older than Mike, remain in the amateurs and take a circuitous route to the top? Even Holyfield - who was scared of Tyson, too - had more manhood than that.

              Lewis never showed the heart that Wilder showed in the ring against Fury. He would've laid down by the fourth round. He is the sport's greatest front-runner. When opponents are weak he goes savage, when they present a threat his butt hole puckers. He has no business critiquing other fighters.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                Wilder is not that strong lol. Where are you getting this notion from? he looked blown up at 212. He might actually be a 6 ft 7 cruiserweight. He is top heavy and flat footed even when he comes in light.

                Tillis is defintely a superior boxer than Wilder. So it's not a good comparison as to what Wilder could do. Douglas is a vastly superior boxer as well. When has wilder ever thrown combinations or jabs like those guys? Wilder is flat footed wild swinging donkey who got fed cab drivers and mentally didnt deserve the fame he got, so now hes gone crazy. They say you get what you deserve, and he didnt deserve that.
                Marvin Hagler, Ken Buchanan, Ray Leonard, and Esteban DeJesus were all better boxers than tommy hearns, had better chins and more stamina, too. What did that mean for Duran when he finally met the hitman?

                Wilder is flawed, but Tyson is made into a wrecking ball that he was not. He certainly hit hard, but his offense wasn't predicated on power, it was hand-speed, combinations, angles and pressure (against, a cast of no-hopers). And I don't doubt that he makes that work against Wilder, but if Ortiz was too small for Wilder, and Wilder could withstand the abuse Fury poured out, it's only a matter of time before he takes over this fight. And it will end HORRIBLY for Tyson.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
                  Mike had small nuts to carry.
                  and huge muscles to fuel with oxygen.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                    Wilder is not that strong lol. Where are you getting this notion from? he looked blown up at 212. He might actually be a 6 ft 7 cruiserweight. He is top heavy and flat footed even when he comes in light.

                    Tillis is defintely a superior boxer than Wilder. So it's not a good comparison as to what Wilder could do. Douglas is a vastly superior boxer as well. When has wilder ever thrown combinations or jabs like those guys? Wilder is flat footed wild swinging donkey who got fed cab drivers and mentally didnt deserve the fame he got, so now hes gone crazy. They say you get what you deserve, and he didnt deserve that.
                    Wilder looked better at 230+ than he 20 pounds lighter. 210 is as light as he can go. No way he makes 200 without severing a limb.

                    Tyson, conversely, came of age pre-VADA. Today he'd definitely be a career Cruiserweight.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                      Aglass chin!?!?!?!?

                      Fury put Wilder through the woodchipper for a full 7 rounds and could only elicit a standing stoppage. Wilder wasn't going down without a fight.


                      Can you reference one fight where the guy who couldn't stop Mitch Green endured that kind of abuse?

                      Lewis is a *****. He was stopped by McCall and Rahman. He was bullied by Mercer and an old and broken Holyfield. He tried to get one over on Vitali and it almost blew up in his face... he high-tailed it from the sport after that.And worst of all? HE HIMSELF AVOIDED A PRIME TYSON! Why did Lewis, who is older than Mike, remain in the amateurs and take a circuitous route to the top? Even Holyfield - who was scared of Tyson, too - had more manhood than that.

                      Lewis never showed the heart that Wilder showed in the ring against Fury. He would've laid down by the fourth round. He is the sport's greatest front-runner. When opponents are weak he goes savage, when they present a threat his butt hole puckers. He has no business critiquing other fighters.
                      Bruh fury aint even a puncher he still dropped and may have possibly given wilder brain damage.

                      Tyson totally dominated Mitch Green, who could suprisingly endure alot of punishment (due to his clinching tactics), but watch both Tyson-Ruddock fights, and the Tyson-Lewis fight, where he took bomb after bomb and still kept coming, despite being shot in the lewis fight.

                      Lewis was stopped by McCall and Rahman and beat them in their rematches. Holyfield was old but was still outboxed by lennox in their first fight and second fight. Lennox abandonend his typical jab strategy and chose to brawl with mercer, who was a brawler. How did he avoid Prime Tyson when he wasnt even a pro when Tyson was in his prime? Please never compare wilder with the likes of Tyson, Lennox, or Holyfield, these 3 ducked nobody and fought the best in their era. Holyfield, a CRUISERWEIGHT, moved a whole division up to fight tyson, not the other way around.

                      Wilder should learn to properly box and stop making excuses and he will be better, calling his trainer disloyal when his trainer saved his life that night.

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