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  • #21
    You got to remeber another great thing about Tyson. He helped to get this sport off it's knees back in the 80's. He's still doing it, I bcame a huge boxing fan of Tysons and the sport in general 6 months after the Tyson vs Mcbride fight. It was sad though that I never got to see Tyson fight live.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Mike Tyson77 View Post
      You got to remeber another great thing about Tyson. He helped to get this sport off it's knees back in the 80's. He's still doing it, I bcame a huge boxing fan of Tysons and the sport in general 6 months after the Tyson vs Mcbride fight. It was sad though that I never got to see Tyson fight live.
      You missed something, let me tell you. I remember being in high school talking about his upcoming title unification with Bonecrusher Smith. lol!!! I was afraid for Smith's life. Funny looking back on it...he must have been too.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by K-DOGG View Post
        You missed something, let me tell you. I remember being in high school talking about his upcoming title unification with Bonecrusher Smith. lol!!! I was afraid for Smith's life. Funny looking back on it...he must have been too.


        Man you are lucky. I hope we get another Marciano/Tyson/Dempsey type of fighter again some day.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Mike Tyson77 View Post
          Man you are lucky. I hope we get another Marciano/Tyson/Dempsey type of fighter again some day.

          It'll happen someday; but whoever it is will be unique in their own way. You never get "another" great one....you just get another "great" one....if that makes any sense.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by K-DOGG View Post
            It'll happen someday; but whoever it is will be unique in their own way. You never get "another" great one....you just get another "great" one....if that makes any sense.
            Tyson was marketed like no other heavyweight in the history of the game. When was the last time you saw a prospect make the cover of Sports Illustrated (Kid Dynamite)? Cayton and Jacobs did a masterful with the press kits and the media exposure. The plain black boxing shoes, no socks and robe, Dempsey haircut was carefully formulated image that harkened back to old time fighters and was a stark contrast to the gerri curled sequined trunks and tassles fighter of the 80's. Combine that image with often repeated "the hard luck kid gets taken under the wing of the svengali" Cus D'amato relationship and it was only natural that it would be eaten up by the boxing scribes looking for the next big thing. It didn't hurt that Tyson was a KO artist, the type of fighter that makes the regular man on the street (ie:casual boxing fan) sit up and take notice.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Mike Tyson77 View Post
              Tyson isnt overrated. Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, George Foreman, Joe Fraizer, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis, Evender Holyfield, Sonny Liston, Larry Holmes all had KNOCK OUT LOSSES on threir records. Just cause knocked them out one night doesent take away their greatness.


              Tyson belongs up there with those guys for greatness to. He's a great fighter.
              Tyson was package by Cuz Amato.....deal with it!!!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by K-DOGG View Post
                You missed something, let me tell you. I remember being in high school talking about his upcoming title unification with Bonecrusher Smith. lol!!! I was afraid for Smith's life. Funny looking back on it...he must have been too.

                The Cuz Amato intimidation head game work great against Bonecrusher Smith, he climb the ring to lose not even compete to lose...same thing with the "Tooth" Williams...the entier attitude of Buster was so different to any of them since the beginning...and as I mentioned before he took Tillis blueprint and used it to destroyed the myth..and put it back in a bottle....

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by SABBATH View Post
                  Tyson was marketed like no other heavyweight in the history of the game. When was the last time you saw a prospect make the cover of Sports Illustrated (Kid Dynamite)? Cayton and Jacobs did a masterful with the press kits and the media exposure. The plain black boxing shoes, no socks and robe, Dempsey haircut was carefully formulated image that harkened back to old time fighters and was a stark contrast to the gerri curled sequined trunks and tassles fighter of the 80's. Combine that image with often repeated "the hard luck kid gets taken under the wing of the svengali" Cus D'amato relationship and it was only natural that it would be eaten up by the boxing scribes looking for the next big thing. It didn't hurt that Tyson was a KO artist, the type of fighter that makes the regular man on the street (ie:casual boxing fan) sit up and take notice.
                  Oh I completely agree. I can't think of one heavyweight in history, with the possible excepton of Joe Louis, who was marketed nearly as effectively as Tyson. Cayton and Jaccobs would send out VHS tapes of his fights to various sportswriters to get a buzz going, which was something that had never been done before. I also think that's why he's as overated by some as he is...all that marketing. Just like people will by a product if it is correctly advertised and "sold" to them, many can't let go of the sensational marketing that surrounded Tyson. Unfortunately, there is also an equally strong backlash agaisnt him, which deprives him of what credit he does deserve.

                  I think it will be years before his career can accurately be ascertained, really, because of this phenomenon.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Mike Tyson77 View Post
                    You got to remeber another great thing about Tyson. He helped to get this sport off it's knees back in the 80's. He's still doing it, I bcame a huge boxing fan of Tysons and the sport in general 6 months after the Tyson vs Mcbride fight. It was sad though that I never got to see Tyson fight live.
                    REALLY? U seem to hav learned a lot in a short time! Cant beat Tyson live for the Heavy weight title! I saw him in the flesh once, against Julious Francis, just amazing!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Orishaman View Post
                      The Cuz Amato intimidation head game work great against Bonecrusher Smith, he climb the ring to lose not even compete to lose...same thing with the "Tooth" Williams...the entier attitude of Buster was so different to any of them since the beginning...and as I mentioned before he took Tillis blueprint and used it to destroyed the myth..and put it back in a bottle....

                      Well, honestly, I think it was that right hand and follow up combo in the first round that had Smith holding on for dear life in that fight. And Williams I actually believe came to fight because he was doing pretty well until that left hook landed; but you're right about Tyson intimidating many of his opponents. Most were beaten before the pre-fight introductions.

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