could tyson have beat ali if tyson fought like he fought mitch green?

[K-DOGG]

the man with many words has none? im shocked,i think it woulda been a good match up with those styles

Would you think it accurate to compare Mitch Green to Muhammad Ali?

[Verstyle]

I'll repeat myself. Ali was never floored in his prime. Ali's prime was not in the first Cooper fight.

These are Ali's prime fights.

1964

Sonny Liston - Hurt once or twice

1965

Sonny Liston - Not hurt once

Floyd Patterosn - Hit maybe once or twice all night

1966

George Chuvalo - not hurt

Henry Cooper - not hurt

Brian London - Barely hit

Karl Mildenburger - Stunned a little in the 10th round

Cleveland Williams - Barely hit

1967

Ernie Terrel - barely hit

Zora Folley - not hurt




So that's a total of being hurt maybe three times, and being floored zero times.

End of discussion.

my ass ali's prime wasnt in 66' quit bull****ting just cause u got proved wrong and reread my post i edited it earlier

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Would you think it accurate to compare Mitch Green to Muhammad Ali?

see the only 1 that got confused. i said tyson's STYLE vs. green.i even said i know green isnt ne where close to ali.i just used that video as a reference to show u how he fought in that particular fight.hell his opponent could of been sonny liston for all i care but thats what i wasnt getting at

[K-DOGG]

see the only 1 that got confused. i said tyson's STYLE vs. green.i even said i know green isnt ne where close to ali.i just used that video as a reference to show u how he fought in that particular fight.hell his opponent could of been sonny liston for all i care but thats what i wasnt getting at

No, I'm not confused. I'm trying to make a point. Mike Tyson has always had the same style. In some fights he looked better than in others; but that was usually due to what his opponents did or did not do. How Mike fought Mitch is relative only to that one fight because Ali would not have fought like Green; he would have fought like Ali.

Any version of a prime Tyson would have given Ali some trouble in the early going; but as the fight progressed, Ali would have broadened the gap between the two and more than likely stopped him late, IMO.

Mike looked like he did against Green because it was agasint Greeen.

[butterfly1964]

my ass ali's prime wasnt in 66' quit bull****ting just cause u got proved wrong and reread my post i edited it earlier

Banks and cooper was not his prime, why do you say that? he was young and pretty small in those days, not the monster he was in the mid to late 1960s.

[Verstyle]

No, I'm not confused. I'm trying to make a point. Mike Tyson has always had the same style. In some fights he looked better than in others; but that was usually due to what his opponents did or did not do. How Mike fought Mitch is relative only to that one fight because Ali would not have fought like Green; he would have fought like Ali.

Any version of a prime Tyson would have given Ali some trouble in the early going; but as the fight progressed, Ali would have broadened the gap between the two and more than likely stopped him late, IMO.

Mike looked like he did against Green because it was agasint Greeen.

how else would mike fight a guy that throws punches in flurries like green did without really being hit? ali threw flurries also of course alot faster and more powerful ones but he did throw them. tyson had good defense but i dont see how ne 1 can get out of the way of punches unless they fought like frazier did to ali and how tyson did to green.

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Banks and cooper was not his prime, why do you say that? he was young and pretty small in those days, not the monster he was in the mid to late 1960s.

i guess so butterfly

[butterfly1964]

i guess so butterfly

He weighed 194½ against banks, so that's definetely not his prime. Plus, his style wasn't perfected at that time as he was not really a defensive fighter, he would still trade punches. Lter on, he worked on his defense a lot. And against Cooper he was only 21, and had skinny arms, that wasn't his prime either.

[Verstyle]

He weighed 194½ against banks, so that's definetely not his prime. Plus, his style wasn't perfected at that time as he was not really a defensive fighter, he would still trade punches. Lter on, he worked on his defense a lot. And against Cooper he was only 21, and had skinny arms, that wasn't his prime either.

ok your right. i didnt realize the dates he fought them. but his chin still wasnt good before the frazier fight.(thats what i should have said instead of adding the word prime) sorry bout that.

[K-DOGG]

how else would mike fight a guy that throws punches in flurries like green did without really being hit? ali threw flurries also of course alot faster and more powerful ones but he did throw them. tyson had good defense but i dont see how ne 1 can get out of the way of punches unless they fought like frazier did to ali and how tyson did to green.

Because Mike is not Joe Frazier and did not fight like Frazier. Mike did have good defense and did bob and weave very well in his prime; but he was always a fast starter and could have the pace dictated to him after the initial furry of the first few rounds. Joe started slow and picked up momentum as the fight went on.

Correct me if I'm wrong because it's been a long time since I've seen any part of the Green fight; but didn't it involve Mitch flurrying a little, Mike dodging and ducking and getting on the inside...where Mitch would quasi-tie him up, then free one hand here and the other there to throw shots at Tyson from the inside?

Ali did not fight like that. Ali fought from long range almost exclusively because he wasn't a good infighter and he had the speed to avoid punches pretty easily from long range. MIke really wasn't an inside fighter, he was more of a mid-range fighter and Frazier was almost exclusively an inside fighter. Joe's job was to work his way into your chest and beat on you until your guard came down so he could take your head off with that hook. Mike's job was to bob and weave and make you miss while inching deceptively closer and then explode with four or five murderous counters once he got his feet set....but Mitch kind of made hiim fight on the inside, which is where Mike wasn't comfortable and was least effective because he couldn't get full leverage on his punches from that close....which is primarily why Mitch lasted the distance.

Ali, on the other hand, fought you from the outside behind a stinging jab which blinded you and nailed you as you came in. If you got too close, he'd tie you up until the referee broke you up.

Mike's style against Green was due mostly to what Green was doing because Mike was not really proactive when his opponent was.