could tyson have beat ali if tyson fought like he fought mitch green?

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  • butterfly1964
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    #11
    Originally posted by versatile2k6
    remember before frazier his chin wasnt great neither
    It was the same chin he had against Frazier.

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    • SABBATH
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      #12
      I have no idea why you chose this particular fight which was dull and had the crowd booing. I certainly wouldn't consider this one of Tyson's better performances. Not by a long shot.

      Green offered very little offence or mobility and Tyson for the most part was content to lunge in with power shots then immediately rest on the inside and lock arms with Green and wait for the ref to break them apart. Tyson's one-punch power wasn't even on display as he never seriously hurt Green who was a fighter with little credentials other than losing a lopsided decision to Trevor Berbick.

      Ummmm.....he was tall and had a good chin though.


      I had to turn the sound off as I was reminded of why Ray Leonard is never used as a color commentator anymore. That's probably the worst most one sided call I've ever heard. Even when Green lands a clean solid punch Ray manages to gush praise upon Tyson "Look at Mike he's smiling!"....oh brother.

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        #13
        Originally posted by versatile2k6
        i'm looking at the frazier vs.ali fight and when frazier goes in he gets hit alot cause his hands were down,but he still got to ali. now with tyson when he went in with mitch green he used wide bob and weaves and kept his hands up and threw more then just the left look when going in,and threw the jab to get in also.I know u cant compare green to ali but they both threw alot in that fight and tyson reminded me of frazier in that fight. example of how tyson fought green.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBChe576oRI

        No. That is all.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
          cos only two fighters ever stopped him compared to Tysons 5?
          tyson lost mentally to alot of his fights,except for the douglas fight and lewis

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            #15
            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            It was the same chin he had against Frazier.
            ali was hurt alot in his prime and knocked down. he hardly was knocked down after his exile

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              #16
              Originally posted by SABBATH
              I have no idea why you chose this particular fight which was dull and had the crowd booing. I certainly wouldn't consider this one of Tyson's better performances. Not by a long shot.

              Green offered very little offence or mobility and Tyson for the most part was content to lunge in with power shots then immediately rest on the inside and lock arms with Green and wait for the ref to break them apart. Tyson's one-punch power wasn't even on display as he never seriously hurt Green who was a fighter with little credentials other than losing a lopsided decision to Trevor Berbick.

              Ummmm.....he was tall and had a good chin though.


              I had to turn the sound off as I was reminded of why Ray Leonard is never used as a color commentator anymore. That's probably the worst most one sided call I've ever heard. Even when Green lands a clean solid punch Ray manages to gush praise upon Tyson "Look at Mike he's smiling!"....oh brother.
              i didnt choose this fight because of the excitment.i choose it cause he fought sorta like frazier but in my opinion alittle better in this fight

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                #17
                Originally posted by K-DOGG
                No. That is all.
                the man with many words has none? im shocked,i think it woulda been a good match up with those styles

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by versatile2k6
                  ali was hurt alot in his prime and knocked down. he hardly was knocked down after his exile
                  Actually, Ali was hurt maybe two times in his prime and knocked down zero times, so you're wrong. Ali's chin was the same.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964
                    Actually, Ali was hurt maybe two times in his prime and knocked down zero times, so you're wrong. Ali's chin was the same.
                    no u was wrong and u just proved it he was knocked down by cooper and sonny banks in his prime and other ppl. get it right son.
                    Last edited by Verstyle; 12-11-2006, 12:10 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by versatile2k6
                      no u was wrong and u just proved it he was knocked down by cooper and other ppl. get it right son.
                      I'll repeat myself. Ali was never floored in his prime. Ali's prime was not in the first Cooper fight.

                      These are Ali's prime fights.

                      1964

                      Sonny Liston - Hurt once or twice

                      1965

                      Sonny Liston - Not hurt once

                      Floyd Patterosn - Hit maybe once or twice all night

                      1966

                      George Chuvalo - not hurt

                      Henry Cooper - not hurt

                      Brian London - Barely hit

                      Karl Mildenburger - Stunned a little in the 10th round

                      Cleveland Williams - Barely hit

                      1967

                      Ernie Terrel - barely hit

                      Zora Folley - not hurt




                      So that's a total of being hurt maybe three times, and being floored zero times.

                      End of discussion.

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