At least Kermit had the guts to go to Mexico City and fight Alvarez for the WBC man. Saul is a beast, great fundamentals. Let's see ANYONE else take that fight in Alvarez's backyard.
That is a very good point. They are good guys, its too bad they came along when HW boxing was so weak.
Is the HW division weak? Or is it the fact Klitschko Brothers make everyone else look weak. I believe Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis were all products of steroids. I know Tyson & Holyfield was juicing. No doubt, I can't believe it hasn't been brought up, especially Tyson, Juicer for sure
I cant believe what i read on these threads. "Margarito's corner is so terrible because they didnt stop the fight", " Garcia should be ashamed of himself putting his fighter in such danger" etc.
But wait wouldn't that make margs seem like a quitter? God forbid he or they stop fighting during the course of the fight due to a broken f n face!!!
Ya'll some hypocrites. Those who never been in the ring or sparred or anying to do with this sport or mma (yeah dudes hit hard too) don't know squat. You think in your head that you can keep going through what Margs, Cotto, Rafa Marquez, De la Hoya etc. went through but guess what you cant!!!
So shut the f up if you have never fought and your a sideline kinda guy, u dont have the courage to deal with such adversity.
Stick to internet bangin and show a bit of respect for the guys that put it out on the line. :notworthy
well said.....pisses me off too , he already said before the fight , "I will die in the ring before I quit" , it's his life, props to him for being a tough guy, but I lost all respect for him after the plaster wraps, and the video really pissed me off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hj4s2_hfEU
great post, I agree, the brothers are very classy & great for the sport, it was embassing to see briggs lack of class (until post fight interview) , I just don't get how a professional boxer fighting for a world title can't get his elbows in, hands up, slip, roll in/out , counter that over hand right like tyson would do.....bend your damn knees, roll in/left hook with all you got, i guess it's easier said than done
Briggs took one of the worst beatings in recent memory but survived to the final bell, credit to him for taking his beating like a man.
Aside from the spectacular KOs, Vitali and Wlad are methodical and boring but they would probably beat any heavyweight in history outside of 3-4
I really disliked the brothers two years ago but ive really begun to respect them, I even hope they destroy Haye if he ever fights them.
They are both classy, always in shape, nearly always get the KO, have the biggest gates in the sport, look to fight the best and they fight often.
The Klits are good for the sport.
Briggs just said that Vitali hit harder & was better than Lennox Lewis & Foreman, said he's the best he's ever fought. David Haye should beat a samuel peter, sosnoski, or briggs, or arreola before he gets a shot at them, just like Tyson said
I used to hang out with my girlfriend all the time. Then I started betting on boxing, because my girlfriend sometimes won't f.uck me, but betting on boxing will always, ALWAYS, f.uck you.
good one, true too
I believe the dropoff of cruiserweight and HW boxers in USA is because any kid who has size growing up and is athletic is going to be in baseball, basketball or football, by the time you get done with that sport , they're already 18-24 so it's too late for boxing, we'll see how seth mitchell does. my son just turned 6, he will be a heavyweight, search Ty Kana on youtube, we think he's doing great considering he really doesn't even care about boxing but he does it because I got the bags at home and I take him to the gym with me. I really hope he sticks with boxing but he loves baseball and football, that's the problem in the USA, the kids don't have boxing stars to look up to on TV, all they see is NFL, MLB, and the NBA. Boxing is dead unless you look for it. We all have to come to this site to get our info. we won't find it on sportscenter. I wish we could hear about vanes calling out the division, or how klitchko brothers call out haye after he talked all that junk and now he's a coward, you just don't see it on sportscenter so the kids don't care about boxing. As for my son, I'm trying to get him involved because I think it's a great sport, I like the fact that you can't drink or smoke or you will suck. alot of kids who play football/baseball still party hard, in boxing you can't. we'll see what happens, I took him to Savannah's in Houston this summer, he doesn't realize how bad ass it is that he's learning this sport and getting to be around some of the greatest fighters in the world who train there. I don't see kids his size going into boxing, that's why I think the HW in the USA can't win a belt and won't for a long time. what do you think?
The NBA/NFL excuse is weak and pathetic.
There are tons of potential Eastern European Heavyweight Boxers who are doing
America isn't the only country in the world that has other sports.
it isn't a weak and lame excuse, it is a fact, like tony the tiger says these what if's are getting out of hand, it's great to hear all the different opinions on this, everyone has good points. except for the weak/lame nba/nfl excuse, that is just one of many factual "excuses" about the US HW division.
(Combat Sambo, MMA, Kickboxing, Hockey, Olympic Wrestling, Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting, Worlds Strongest Man Competitions, etc.)- these sports don't pay **** compared to the NBA/NFL if you didn't know, that's why all the greatest athletes bust their ass from childhood to play football/basketball/baseball in the USA - another fact, not a weak/lame excuse, here's a whatif for you just for fun, what if russia had the billion $$$ NFL? , Vlad would have been an allpro DE or TE, not a boxing champion. not hatin, I love vlad, I wish they would show all the ****talkin goin on between him and Haye on sportscenter and maybe other people besides us would get interested in boxing
You said it, all these reasons are why , but remember the athletes back then were not making the sick $$$ they are now in NFL, Most heavyweights from usa are starting football at an early age, not boxing, it used to be on CBS Saturday afternoons, now you have to have cable tv to see fights, you are right on with all your statements , I also agree with all of you who are sick of all the fat ass heavyweights, it is embarrassing
:lame: That's a weak excuse.
We had football and basketball back in the 60s 70s 80s and 90s.
Of the 150,000,000 men in the USA there are at least 10,000,000 big young men. Only a tiny fraction of those 10 million are in the NFL and NBA.
The real reasons:
1. The high-sodium fast food in the USA is ruining athletes bodies and reducing their stamina. Years ago men had nutritious meals prepared by their mothers and wives.
2. Most people are unwilling to do what they need to stay as fit as the great boxers of the past. I've read Muhammed Ali worked exceptionally hard and he kept himself in top shape 12 months of the year, like the Klitschkos do.
3. East Europeans especially the Klitschkos are strong, intelligent fighters who are more suited to the pros than amateurs.
How long is his contract with Top Rank? What did he do that was so bad that bob arum "put him on ice"? Hang out with mayweathers? I'd really like to know because I liked this kid when he used to train in Houston, I thought he was a great role model for kids getting into boxing being that he was going to college and carried himself with alot of class. Check out his YouTube videos from when he was like 3,4-0. Showed alot of class and promise at the time. What's going on with him?
I'm a huge fan of nfl, but this makes me want the nfl to have a lockout for a while so these guys will try to box. I'm sure they'll think they are good & it will bring interest to the sport when they beat some bums. But once they try to face anyone in the top 10 in any division they will lose. It will be good for boxing.
I lost respect for him when he turned down Pacquiao's offer to be his sparring partner in the philippines for Cotto.
What serious boxer would turn down that opportunity?
He's in it for the money and 5 minutes of fame, not the love of the sport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWSsqAorq08
go to 3:30, he was a full time college student when they asked him to leave for LA to spar with pacman, I'm sure he'd have gone quick if he wasn't full time student
im about to download it now thanks for the reminder.. BTW, what fighters will be in the game?
anywhere we can go to see the full roster? I heard mayweather won't be on it because EA sports didn't pay him enough. All the $$$ he's made from the fans buying his ppv's & he can't give back to the fans, sux
Marquez would easily win by KO. I even give Juan Diaz an edge on beating Rios.
I agree.....wish Diaz would go ahead & take that WBA belt away from Rios
I doubt if Rios could go the distance with JMM, Diaz did it last year, I would love to see this fight, I'm thinking one tuneup for Diaz, then make it happen
it's not a law suit u dumb fawk! it's just a fawking complaint asking floyd to get the fawk out of the place.
go back to making threads about floyd being popular in asia u biatch!
Hahaha, Y'all crack me up, love your sig man... Wow
Ya i'm sure you just want to "hang out".
hahaha, waiting for that, this site always makes me laugh when I look at these threads, people just ask for it!