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Well I read from dougie that he was in tough in sparring but not that his camp was bad two different thing's. romebyko, anything Doug Fisher says about Floyd or RJJ is to be forgotten. These guys must've stollen a few of his girl friends. He hates them so much that he forgets to be impartial.

well now that the Klit bros have retired after dominating HW division like no others did or will ever do we are stuck with much "superior" black "champions" who will not fight each other and are only "champs" because the Klit bros are gone and fight old recycled club fighters Let's just remind you that one Klitschko was beat and beaten up by an "inferior" bkack fighter, Lenox Lewis, and the other was knocked out by an "inferior novice" Anthony Joshua. They're not gone, they're not retired, they were pushed out the door, they were retired by black fighters.

black panther Vitali retired lewis by LOSING on cuts. that is how scared lewis was to rematch him. Joshua is a PED monster who fought a 41 year old Vlad and he barely beat him. do you really think wilder and Joshua will last 12 years beating generations of young fighters like the Klits?? listening to Malcom X and doing crack has ruined you Gosh Nachovski, Vitali should thank the referee every single day for stopping that fight or he'd be a one eyed politician today. And let's remember that Lewis had (barely) trained to fight someone else for his last fight, coming in out of shape and was already ove the hill. When was Joshua caught using PED? Oh yeah rumors. What happened to you to be so racist? Usually something happened, either your mother got caught in bed with a BBC or maybe your wife, and now you or your father are way too small? You swim in there?

What will happen when Floyd's lawyer starts asking foe cranium measurement, body fat % going up in weight, anomalies known on PED users and other stuff like that? Did Pac think about that? Not really, he was too busy trying to get as far away from Floyd as possible. Don't you all see that, from the beginning, Pac had no intention of fighting Floyd? Just go back to Roach's words. March's too early, wee need another fight before getting to Floyd. Not yet prepared for a fighter his caliber!!! Remember that???

Spare me will ya theres no need to feel sorry for me, I know my shit. I boxed as an amataur for 5 years from age 13 to 18. theres not a truer boxing fan than me with almost 20 years intently following the sport. I thought you'd have got my sarcasm but there you go drawing the wrong conclusion. comprende? Son, I did get your sarcasm and whatever else was hidden underneath. I also did some boxing (though shorter than you) and all kinds of Martial Arts and have been following (feverishly should I say) since the 60's and have seen the degradation of boxing "worshipping" going from true fans who appreciate true skills to fanatics who want to see blood and don't understand the finesse brought into the ring by athletes like Mayweather. Most here are incapabale of seeing the extremely beautiful art painted by Money evertime he boxes. Instead they call him boring and declare brawlers "exciting". To finish, I'd say do not anoint yourself the "truest" boxing fan when all you want is to see gladiators kill each other. See that's the difference between Picasso and a building painter. Compreendes?

well thanks for pointing that out cos you've enlightened me! :crazy: The down side:- everyone feels a little dumber after reading your last few posts! Well, I feel sorry for you. Maybe you should go to MMA forums it is too "deep" for you here. Over there they probably talk about "fighters" you admire: those with big balls and no skills. And I appreciate the compliment. Yeah you're a little dumber now that you know that boxing is about brains, not balls. You always thought that it was "punch me, I'll punch you and the last standing man is the winner". No son, in boxing it is "I'll touch you but won't let you touch me". Compris?

I dont get you, he was refering to Mayweathers balls not his dick. and what has his point got to do with your small dicked white soccer mates insecuritys? Is this just an opportunity for you to tell everyone you have a big dick? lmfao:sad: No, it's an opportunity for you to understand that boxing is not about big balls. It's about big brains.

Pac-May will never come to fruition. Clottey will seriously damage Pacman. Remember, Pac has never fought a REAL WW at teh REAL weight. He had to drain them to beat them. What you're also forgetting is that the two he fought were DAMAGED GOODS, one from beatings, the other from age.

André, j'espère que ta famille (ceux qui ont survecu ce drame terrible) se portent bien ainsi que tous les Haitiens. Que Dieu vous aide tous et que l'avenir soit meilleur et moins cruel. De la part d'un fan.

Not since Clay in 1960 has boxing had a superstar with the talent looks and charisma of the Joshua. Joshua has it all aS A POTENTIAL SUPERSTAr IN BOXING WHO CAN CARRY THE SPORT HIMSELF. The talent and looks are there and the kid can be the best. Chuck Martin was a joke though and terrible. Joshua might be the next Ali. Living in the UK will hurt Joshua. Move to the USA get Freddy Roach to train and stay away from that career destroying al slime ball Haymon and his sammy the mammy and his two stooges sons/flunkies black gophers.Freddie, is that you? Trying to take a (mostly) finished product and reap the benefit of other people's work?

Occult establishment homosexual. Traded his soul and anus for $. Occult sell outs have to lie to themselves everyday that they are winners. I think you're just upset to find out that your soul and anus have no value.:gay::gay::gay:

So how would you "state as an opinion" the same concept? Just curious to see the difference. I THINK "The best Tyson knocks the sh*t out of the best Joshua, possibly inside three". IN MY OPINION "The best Tyson knocks the sh*t out of the best Joshua, possibly inside three". I BELIEVE "The best Tyson knocks the sh*t out of the best Joshua, possibly inside three". I'M SURE "The best Tyson knocks the sh*t out of the best Joshua, possibly inside three".

And you'll be the first person to buy the fight.

OK, let's keep it simple then. The best Tyson knocks the sh*t out of the best Joshua, possibly inside three. Hope this clarifies! Yes it does. It clarifies your OPINION.

People are laughing at Floyd for the same reasons they always have. Doidged Khan, dodging GGG and fighting berto for last fight. People will always laugh at Floyd. So Floyd won't have last laugh. His detractors laugh alongside Floyd, side by side I need to understand this "people are laughing at Floyd" thing. The man has broken every record there was to break in boxing. Most Champions defeated, most money, biggest gate, biggest PPV, etc. Obviously there had to be people very, very interested in him to generate all those numbers. It reminds me of another foolish sentence "he's the laughingstock of the world" as scorned right wingers (to bring politics into this once again) say about Obama. But is he the laughingstock of the world, or the he's the laughingstock of their (small) world? Are people in your (small) world laughing at him? I think he's laughing all the way to the bank...

fight is never gonna happen if they're talking about a weight cap. canelo is not at a stage where he's willing to go down in weight not unless something big happens like khan beating him or something. he's at a point now where he feels he's the a-side. weight cap, otherwise known as a regular day for the king of catch weight.

When have I ever Applauded Trump? I hate Trump, even before he ran for president I hated him and what he stood for. I grew up socio-economically challenge and was able to make a decent life for himself, but I don't brag about it to others. I may talk to less privileged people and tell them they can do the same. But lets be frank here, Floyd may have grown up in his early years less fortunate but the guy was a millionaire at the age of 20 even earlier I think. Plus with his boxing as an amateur, it took him to places lots of rich people wont ever go to. He went all over the world. So he didn't have that much a misfortunate childhood. Also hes been a millionaire for more than half his life. Dudes been a rich guy so long I don't even know if he truly remembers whats its like being less fortunate. Yes, I could've worded that better. I was not referring to you boxinghead, but to people who applaud Trump and the likes and are horrified (or pretend to be) when Floyd does the exact same thing.

He was yelling telling the ref to stop the fight. He told Jr stop hitting him in the dude in the head cause Nick wasnt gonna quit. So he said well shyt Jr's gotta keep throwing punches but to the body and hope the inept ref will stop it. **** but he couldnt tell him not to throw punches. Not hard to see what Sr was saying. He reeled his son in.If Chris Eubank Sr was someone he liked, he'd be singing his praise, telling us how wonderful he is, the best person in the world, etc. Instead he's drunk on that moron, Saunders' kool aid (by the way, Jr's punches on Saunders' head, in the second half of the fight, might've been harder that we thought), and all he, and the other detractors can see is what their biased views show them.

So much has been made of what Eubank Snr said to his son in the corner about how he was trying to protect Blackwell. I personally felt what he said was just tactical. "You're not going to take him out to the head, you're going to take him out to the body". He had hit him with everything to the head, so its just boxing 101 to target the body. Eubank snr didnt go to the ref. You forgot the part where he tells his son that if he keeps punching him to the head "he's gonna get hurt", therefore go to the body.

Take your pick… 1. Brook likes to where stilettos with his track suit. 2. Mexicans lie about their height... it's a small man thing. 3. ODLH is overly familiar with a crouched sniff position. 4. Kell is stood upright, whereas ODLH isn’t. Another, far simpler explanation is, you're wrong and don't want to admit it. Your eyes are telling you one thing but your desire to contradict me will do another. And BTW if anyone wear stilettos, that would be Oscar.

Go look at the punchstats goofball. You're all wet with your cowardly b.s. Those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Are you aware that "punchstats" is one of, if not the, most flawed metric in boxing. You guy cite it as if it was the ultimate truth. Did you know that is two guys pressing a button every time they think a punch has landed? Do you understand that, considering the angle, their interpretation could be wrong? Do you understand that it is not an exact science?

Gonna be seeing a lot of fighters quitting in the ring against the 3 African Assassins. Lomachenko and undefeated beasts Krusher and GGG the top 3 P4P fighters in the world today. Get used to it welfare boysLucifer, about 45 million people are on welfare. About half of those are white, and the rest for all other ethnies. And this is after all decks were stacked for the white and against blacks. Get your facts straight.

Of course. What else? You're stating the obvious. It wasn’t stated as an opinion.

well thats one benefit to being a coward The valiant keyboard warrior has spoken...

Nope, he isn't ARUMing anyone.

Quote: Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post Go look at the punchstats goofball. You're all wet with your cowardly b.s. I watched the fight, and I'm aware of how punchstats work. But you can't argue with the sheer difference in numbers for Manny and the kid, even if the numbers were off a bit. The kid couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and he fouled the living daylights outta Manny. You wanna come up with some alt universe where that wasn't how it went down... go for it friend. I'll stick with my interpretation of what I saw with my own 2 eyes. 3 words: Bias. Teddy Atlas.

What is this crap?? I can't think of any fighter I would compare less with Joshua than Tyson! Joshua reminds me more of a faster and more skilled Frank Bruno. Big muscles, good technique, poor chin, good power. Poor chin?

First of all, Floyd don't talk about the Oscar fight. Most watching that fight agree you got beat that night. Oscar disagrees with you on that one. In fact, Floyd was offered $25M for a rematch with Oscar, and Floyd wouldn't take it. He wouldn't take it because he felt that having beat Oscar 50/50 was the only offer and he was rught as he's made much more than that since then, per fight. Secondly, Floyd waits till the end of Cotto's career to fight him, when he thinks Cotto is a shot fighter. Shouldn't we consider that Floyd is also at the tail end of his career? Cotto has chased Floyd for years. That's the opposite, Floyd pursued Cotto but Arum said it was too soon for that fight and after that Floyd left Arum's plantation and uncle Bob swore that Floyd would NEVER fight ANY of his fighters. The Cotto fight is happening NOW because Cotto is no longer under contract with Arum (have you noticed that ONLY Tpo rank fighters and fighters without a promoter are allowed to fight Bob's fighters?) Thirdly, Manny's competetion has been far greater, and more challenging than what Floyd has hand picked his whole career. Really? Old, depleted, has been, retired fighters is what you call "greater"? Don't take my word for it, look it up. Floyd tries to bag on Manny for asking Oscar and Cotto to come down in weight. Manny is up from 108 pounds where he started, and he walks around at 140/145 pounds. And he asks everybody to come down to UNNATURAL weights, completely drained so he can brag about a victory. If he's so good why not fight those guys at their NATURAL weight as Floyd does it (with the exception of Marquez who went UP, put on weight, did not drain himself) Oscar and Cotto probably walk around at 165 pounds. There is no slight on Manny for not wanting to go up to 150+. But they had to come down to weights unnatural for them to please King Manny. He already drummed Margarito (who Floyd wouldn't fight), at 150, Margarito outweighed Manny by 25 pounds on fight night. Who had to drain himself severely, after a very lengthy period of inactivity, and after being severely beaten down by Mosley. And Marg lives on Arum plantation, see above. Why doesn't Floyd fight Maidana, who destroyed Ortiz in 6 rounds, and chose Ortiz anyway? Maidana who? Why hasn't Floyd gone up and fought Sergio Martinez? Why is Pac not going up to fight Martinez? How come Floyd hasn't gone up and fought Bernard Hopkins, like Leonard and Hearns did in their careers?Why is Pac not going up to fight Klitschko? Floyd should have been a Disc Jockey, cause he loves to spin things.He learned with Arum. Floyd is a blow hard from the ghetto. And he makes more money fighting once every 2 years than Pac 4 times a year. He isn't credible. Pac and Bob "yesterday I was lying but today I'm telling the truth" Arum are? He's all about the safest route to the bank.Looks like Pac is doing better in this department than Floyd with all his demands for catch weight. He's always up for demanding something, that won't be agreed upon, to guard his image, when he won't get in the ring. In fact he's only demanded 2 things: random blood testing and a higher % of the purse. Give Manny a 50%-50% split, Why should he? He's proven that he's the A side, bringing in better numbers every time. and see how fast Pacquiao signs to fight Floyd, Pac might want to sign but Master Bob won't let him. Remember, Pac will fight anybody, anytime but the choice of said opponent rests in Arum's hands. then lets see what FLoyd comes up with next, to avoid fighting him. Why do you think Floyd tried to negotiate directly with Pac? Floyd Mayweather is the ONLY guy afraid to fight Pacquiao. Arum IS afraid of Floyd, you should understand. Everyone else in Boxing is lining up to fight Manny for a whole lot less money! Tell Floyd to grow a pair. Hey money talks, so these guys will fight Manny, sure. Anything you want Manny, you want me to shave 20 pounds? Sure, it will be 1 million. You want me to stop throwing punches? Another million. Sure, no problem (see Mosley).

Oh, this was today? On what planet do you have a world title fight on a Wednesday? Whatever. Sounds like nothing interesting or unexpected happened. In all planets outside of planet America.

tape does not lie manny was intentionally fouled a lot When you have two guys who can only fight moving forward, you either get a KO or lots of head clashes. Pac was so sure he was knock Horn out that he threw all strategy aside and just plodded forward, hoping to land the big punch, and when he landed nothing happened. So he should've changed the strategy, but maybe he thought that this was pre-2009 when he was slicing through huge guys. Notice how the KO's stopped suddenly?