PBF will lose court case. Cant criticise a man who puts his life on line?

lol, ha ha ha. OK, ok ok. Yes you very hopeless defender this plain to see , you go sit in corner now .

You still avoid my statement , you ask why Manny need test I tell how world work , you no very good defender , I dont say ODH Cotto Hatton no good I never say , I say Manny have special advantage over them , ODH and Cotto have weight condition advantage and maybe drug , for Hatton maybe drug . lol, ha ha ha. OK, ok ok.

On the one hand you say Manny is phenomenal and performed great while moving up the weights. And then you contradict yourself saying, DLH, Hatton and even Cotto werent all that.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You still avoid my statement , you ask why Manny need test I tell how world work , you no very good defender , I dont say ODH Cotto Hatton no good I never say , I say Manny have special advantage over them , ODH and Cotto have weight condition advantage and maybe drug , for Hatton maybe drug .

OK lets all agree now. All the Pactards and the Flomos can agree, that Cotto, DLH and hatton at 140 were at their absolute peak when Pac beat them so spectacularly, like no one ever could. His performances will go down in history as so great, that they have caused suspicion. So when and if he takes the tests, and passes he will be the GOAT.

Why you have trouble answer my statement , I no care what other say , you talk to me now so talk about what I said . here simple reason . Manny make big jump in performance in short time , in world professional sport peoples look at jump like this as possible drug advantage , this enough reason , then Manny refuse test now we have big suspicion from all world , this is situation . On the one hand you say Manny is phenomenal and performed great while moving up the weights. And then you contradict yourself saying, DLH, Hatton and even Cotto werent all that.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why you have trouble answer my statement , I no care what other say , you talk to me now so talk about what I said . here simple reason . Manny make big jump in performance in short time , in world professional sport peoples look at jump like this as possible drug advantage , this enough reason , then Manny refuse test now we have big suspicion from all world , this is situation . wow shut the **** up you do not make sense whatsoever, and you're all over this board spurting nonsense spam

What are you talking about? Flomos say the opponents were shit, so when Pac beats them he gets accused of roids for beating shit opponents. Whats so suspicious about beating shit opponents? Why you have trouble answer my statement , I no care what other say , you talk to me now so talk about what I said . here simple reason . Manny make big jump in performance in short time , in world professional sport peoples look at jump like this as possible drug advantage , this enough reason , then Manny refuse test now we have big suspicion from all world , this is situation .

No saying dominate because on roids , say in world today when sportsman in short time make very big jump in performance this reason for suspicion , you can not look at this point and you run like Manny from valid issue , you look for fish in other place all time , this whole problem was very easy make go away long before forest fire start to rage , all Manny need to do was be honorable champion and take test , he run away this even more suspicion for drug now . What are you talking about? Flomos say the opponents were shit, so when Pac beats them he gets accused of roids for beating shit opponents. Whats so suspicious about beating shit opponents?

Either Pac put in fantastic performances, or DLH was weight drained, Cotto was past it after Margarito, and Hatton was always crap. Which is it? Are you going to say Pac was only able to dominate these universally accepted great fighters because he was on roids, or are you, like the majority of flomos, because they were rubbish opponents on the night. Full of excuses flomos and impossible to debate with! No saying dominate because on roids , say in world today when sportsman in short time make very big jump in performance this reason for suspicion , you can not look at this point and you run like Manny from valid issue , you look for fish in other place all time , this whole problem was very easy make go away long before forest fire start to rage , all Manny need to do was be honorable champion and take test , he run away this even more suspicion for drug now .

Parents of children dont request teachers to be wired up to monitors and shown depraved images everyday do they to test the honourabilty of the teachers in question do they? CHildrens lives are every bit as important as PBF life, who he claims he puts it on the line when he fights. But this is the sport PBF chose to take. Formula one racers dont ask for slower cars do they? They know what they are letting themselves in for. There are dangers to every sport. PBF didnt volunteer himself for olympic testing before battering Corrales and Gatti nearly half to death did he? But he wants double protection for himself always. Surely anyone can see this wrong standards of behaviour!!! This post needs bumping up if i say so myself. No flomo has got an antidote to it. But keep trying to defend PBF.

You think struggle with 135 lb fighters then in 18 mths KO Cotto Hatton and Oscar is no like Carl Lewis see Ben Johnson improvement , I tell you secret if Manny was racehorse he be blood tested by stewards 100% , in sport official peoples see big improvement as suspicious , no need see needle in arm for suspicion just big improve wins in short time , Manny comply with valid reason to suspect , was up to Manny to clear , he refuse and walk away , this act very big suspicion . Either Pac put in fantastic performances, or DLH was weight drained, Cotto was past it after Margarito, and Hatton was always crap. Which is it? Are you going to say Pac was only able to dominate these universally accepted great fighters because he was on roids, or are you, like the majority of flomos, because they were rubbish opponents on the night. Full of excuses flomos and impossible to debate with!

Every boxer puts there life on the line, not just Pac, arent you also Bruce lees biggest fan? How many times did he put his life on the line? Uh that would be never. Pretend fighter. Hugh Grant is an idiot. All boxers deserve respect for getting in there.

Carl Lewis was smart and had reasons of suspicion. Probably because Ben Johnson came from running rubbish times to really great times. Pac was a champ really from the outset, and has improved under the best trainer in the world and isnt starving himself. And to top it off, has passed all drug tests requested of him. So your comparison has flaws im afraid. Ben Johnson could have sued, but he knew he was guilty so didnt. If Pac knew he was guilty i dont think hed sue as well. So what you're saying is, all Johnson had to do was threaten Lewis with a lawsuit? Johnson had used steroids since the early 80's but was passing every test until the 1988 Olympics. Shane Mosley passed his tests too until he was eventually caught. People have ways of getting around the system and probably always will. Pacquiao was always a good fighter but the suspicion stems from his unusual ability to move up in weight classes without losing any speed and physically dominating bigger men without changing his style. This has all happened within relatively short period of time. Maybe Manny is just a freak of nature with God given talent and ability. If that's the case then he should have no issues with Mayweather's testing demands.

You think struggle with 135 lb fighters then in 18 mths KO Cotto Hatton and Oscar is no like Carl Lewis see Ben Johnson improvement , I tell you secret if Manny was racehorse he be blood tested by stewards 100% , in sport official peoples see big improvement as suspicious , no need see needle in arm for suspicion just big improve wins in short time , Manny comply with valid reason to suspect , was up to Manny to clear , he refuse and walk away , this act very big suspicion . This argument every time Pac is weight drained at that time, the way your saying dela hoya weight drained against Pac. you just don't like to accept reason go on with argument no matter how it is explained to you.

Carl Lewis was smart and had reasons of suspicion. Probably because Ben Johnson came from running rubbish times to really great times. Pac was a champ really from the outset, and has improved under the best trainer in the world and isnt starving himself. And to top it off, has passed all drug tests requested of him. So your comparison has flaws im afraid. Ben Johnson could have sued, but he knew he was guilty so didnt. If Pac knew he was guilty i dont think hed sue as well. You think struggle with 135 lb fighters then in 18 mths KO Cotto Hatton and Oscar is no like Carl Lewis see Ben Johnson improvement , I tell you secret if Manny was racehorse he be blood tested by stewards 100% , in sport official peoples see big improvement as suspicious , no need see needle in arm for suspicion just big improve wins in short time , Manny comply with valid reason to suspect , was up to Manny to clear , he refuse and walk away , this act very big suspicion .

Floyd puts his life on the line as well as all fighters that step into the ring. Its not all about Pac even though thats all you think about. Putting your life on the line is no joke. If Floyd suspects Manny of taking steroids (whether he has proof or not) its his right to ask for the proper testing to ensure the fight is fare and square. It was Pacs choice not to take the tests, thats why his entire career is in question now, except for the delusional Pac fans that are incapable of seeing both sides clearly. Thats why this has turned into a debate for days, weeks, eventually months. You are just a hater man, at first we all thought that it's gonna take them awhile before they settle the purse split, both are superstars that deserves more, but they agreed to a 50/50, a miracle just happened. Then when we all thought that it's gonna be a breeze in the negotiation from there on, floyd made the first move and offered a 10oz globe and a 154lbs weight limit. Manny said no, then they settled at 147lbs with 8oz globes, but manny offered a 10mil penalty per pound just in case floyd went over the limit again just like the marquez fight. And then floyd insisted that manny take an olympic style drug test, manny complied but team pac requested in the negotiation papers that they only do 3 blood test but with unlimited urine test, thus what we now know as the first test at the beginning of pre-fight, then 2nd atleast 30days prior to the fight, and then 1 more immediately right after the fight. These details were leaked to the press by the mayweathers and they were outraged at team pac for giving limits to a random test!!! Hello!! You are in a middle of negotiation, why will you do such a thing, if floyd truelly wants this fight to happen they should have made a counter offer, as simple as that!!! And now because of that, some fans are starting to think that maybe manny's into something, these are malicious insinuation being made in public by team mayweather and forcing manny to defend himself in legal court. I can't blame manny for doing that, but still, because manny knows the worth of this potential super-duperfight, he just recently accepted and complied with the NSAC to submit himself to a random drug test, manny is willing to adhere to their every rules just as long as the NSAC who's doing it just to save the fight.. But lo and behold, right after knowing about this recent news, roger mayweather made a statement that the NSAC are using fake doctors and that the NSAC doesn't know how to do about testing blood for drug use!! What the F****k is that?!!! Don't the mayweathers wants this fight to be done!!! Manny is already bending backwards for them, what more do they want?!! To me they are just a bunch of pussies!!!!

Pac takes on all comers, while PBF sits on the sidelines making accusations, while Pac puts his life on the line. Floyd puts his life on the line as well as all fighters that step into the ring. Its not all about Pac even though thats all you think about. Putting your life on the line is no joke. If Floyd suspects Manny of taking steroids (whether he has proof or not) its his right to ask for the proper testing to ensure the fight is fare and square. It was Pacs choice not to take the tests, thats why his entire career is in question now, except for the delusional Pac fans that are incapable of seeing both sides clearly. Thats why this has turned into a debate for days, weeks, eventually months.

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Parents of children dont request teachers to be wired up to monitors and shown depraved images everyday do they to test the honourabilty of the teachers in question do they? CHildrens lives are every bit as important as PBF life, who he claims he puts it on the line when he fights. But this is the sport PBF chose to take. Formula one racers dont ask for slower cars do they? They know what they are letting themselves in for. There are dangers to every sport. PBF didnt volunteer himself for olympic testing before battering Corrales and Gatti nearly half to death did he? But he wants double protection for himself always. Surely anyone can see this wrong standards of behaviour!!!

I'm assuming you mean "pedophile." If a nursery teacher was being suspected of pedophilia, it would not be because they are unusually popular with the little ones but it would be because the children showed other signs of fear, sadness and anger among other things. This is not a very good analogy if you ask me. . Lets put it another way. Nursery teachers dont need severe tests everyday of their working lives to prove they arent pedos do they? I think as long as they havent got previous convictions of child tampering they should be ok and trusted. So why isnt Pac not having failed any tests enough for floyd and his flomos? It would be easy to doubt the honourablity of people who work with children wouldnt it? But they arent subjected to being wired up, with graphic scenes of child porn displayed to test them are they? That would be too severe woulndt it be? So is subjecting Pac to the highest tests when just because floyd wants him to.