It's been a long time since Shane was in the ring, and he hasn't gotten any younger. I think the Margarito fight was a good showing, but Shane won't look anything close to that vs. Floyd. I usually have a good sense about these things. I predicted how bad Abraham would look vs Dirrell, and how Paulie would box Diaz's ears off in their 2nd fight. This is what I see comin in the crystal ball.
i don't know really if shane would have stopped jmm, but more than likely, he would have knocked him down more than a few times---but to answer some of your answers(lol)---i won't use the cotto fight to talk about the jab against shane---i know winky was tall and rangy, but floyd's timing with his jab and the fact that he feints with it is the reason he will domnate shane with it---it's not hard to land a jabs on shane---mayorga did---so did collazo and oscar---the same can be said about floyd--the punch that lands on him more than any other punch is the jab--but only when it's timed perfect coz floyd will and has countered over the jab so many times with his counter right hand--and against a southpaw like judah he countered over his jab with a jab of his own and almost dropped judah with it---this was round 2 of the fight btw---anyway, i'm not trying to sell shane short---i know what he brings to the table, but me being a fighter myself, and fighting guys who has the shane style, and me being a technical fighter who moves patiently in the ring, i know how to break it down to a tee and i've watched shane so many times to make this arguement---even at 135, shane got caught with jabs a lot---it's his weakness----coz shane throws punches to hurt his opponent but he gets so tense at times where it seems like he's about to snap his arm the way he throws his punches----he's not elusive--but he's a great athlete---it's great at what he does--but watch by round 3 and 4 how floyd exposes shane's intensity---shane's timing will be off---he's been inactive too long imo---with a figher like mosley--because he's so intense--he has to stay active in the ring--he gets better with his consistentsy when he stays active---he moves much better--but when he has time off like he has now, he gets too ancy, and getting ancy against floyd mayweather jr is suicide--he's hard enough to beat to begin with---floyd looked sharp in his last fight and i know it was agaisnt a smaller fighter, but it wasnt just any smaller fighter---floyd really didn't impose his size against jmm---he fought small and mainly avoided his punches---jmm threw more punches than floyd--just like every other opponent for the most part has thrown at floyd----size really didn't matter in that fight--i mean floyd has dominated and hurt bigger fighters in the past---it was the fact that floyd took away jmm's will because jmm couldn't hit him----he hit him a couple of times of course---floyd does get hit---he's not invincible--and shane will land on him, but floyd rolls with the punches mainly--he's always looking---shane throws punches at times with his eyes closed and he has paid for that a few times, and floyd has that 6th sense in the ring, he will catch shane if he does this----shane bites his bottom lip and tries to knock people's heads off---lol--he cracks me up with that---anyway, i don't see how shane will win more than 2 rounds, if that, due to just his activity early in the fight----shane is something special---don't get me wrong--but floyd is floyd---he is the dominant fighter of the last 3 decades--believe it or not---
I totally agree and believe that May has been dominant for a longtime and also IMHO the fighter of the decade(despite the B.S. the sport world wants you too believe with this manny crap).But Shane is IMHO the best welter of the past decade.He has not fought for awhile but I don't think this will mean much.I'm not a fighter but I hang around the gym just like the roach's and rat's do lol.Look at alot of great fighter's from are time they all fight far and in between.Moses was off damn near a year before he fought Marga's and before that how long was he off before he fought Mayorga.I believe when a fighter get's older he need's that time off.Look at Bhop, Hoya ,Lennox when he was fighting,even May.The most active fighter that's at HOF status is the Pacmonster(At this current time).Mosley is a gym rodent he will be in shape.He know's what this fight is he will be ready.May should be favored in this fight but dominate Shane I don't see it.Just from watching May Hoya(which I had Floyd winning by 2 point's)I know this fight could be won by Shane.If Hoya had the will of shane he could have beat May.I also feel Mosle will make May open up.People sleep on Shane's boxing ability.When Shane fought Hoya it was IMHO the best version of Hoya I've ever seen(that's including their second fight).Hoya alway's had a good jab and a killer left hook to the head or to the body that could end you night.Shane got up for that fight and showed boxing skill's and a warrior's mentality.I feel Mosley is going to impose his will on May.You not gonna just outbox Shane you are going to have to fight him.I'll agree Mosley has never face a boxer like Floyd with his boxing ability and grace.But May has never face a guy like Moses either.A guy who can bang, box and has the will of and ox.I expect a good fight May 1 no matter the outcome but May dominate Mosley can't see it.May has beat no one to suggest such a thing would happen.NO?
I can't lie this is one of the better May will dominate Mosley post great point's you made.But I have to answer some of these thing's you put in here.I totally agree May move's gracefully in that ring.He is one of today's best boxer's hands down.But that don't always win fight's.You say Mosley has been dominated with just a jab by who Tall Rangy boxers who could keep away with their reach(Please don't say Cotto that argument is trash they landed the same amount of punches with Mosley landing and hurting Cotto so that won't do).While May is a great boxer he is not a tall rangy boxer.Do you truly believe that Jmm would have look good against any WW(I can't think of one he would have look good against)if so who?I believe shane will get hit in this fight.I also believe May will get hit in this fight more then alot of people expect.I also see Shane punching threw May's guard to that body.I hear what your say and respect your take on this fight.But I think you are sell the sugar man a bit short.Oh do you think Shane would not have stop Marquez?i don't know really if shane would have stopped jmm, but more than likely, he would have knocked him down more than a few times---but to answer some of your answers(lol)---i won't use the cotto fight to talk about the jab against shane---i know winky was tall and rangy, but floyd's timing with his jab and the fact that he feints with it is the reason he will domnate shane with it---it's not hard to land a jabs on shane---mayorga did---so did collazo and oscar---the same can be said about floyd--the punch that lands on him more than any other punch is the jab--but only when it's timed perfect coz floyd will and has countered over the jab so many times with his counter right hand--and against a southpaw like judah he countered over his jab with a jab of his own and almost dropped judah with it---this was round 2 of the fight btw---anyway, i'm not trying to sell shane short---i know what he brings to the table, but me being a fighter myself, and fighting guys who has the shane style, and me being a technical fighter who moves patiently in the ring, i know how to break it down to a tee and i've watched shane so many times to make this arguement---even at 135, shane got caught with jabs a lot---it's his weakness----coz shane throws punches to hurt his opponent but he gets so tense at times where it seems like he's about to snap his arm the way he throws his punches----he's not elusive--but he's a great athlete---it's great at what he does--but watch by round 3 and 4 how floyd exposes shane's intensity---shane's timing will be off---he's been inactive too long imo---with a figher like mosley--because he's so intense--he has to stay active in the ring--he gets better with his consistentsy when he stays active---he moves much better--but when he has time off like he has now, he gets too ancy, and getting ancy against floyd mayweather jr is suicide--he's hard enough to beat to begin with---floyd looked sharp in his last fight and i know it was agaisnt a smaller fighter, but it wasnt just any smaller fighter---floyd really didn't impose his size against jmm---he fought small and mainly avoided his punches---jmm threw more punches than floyd--just like every other opponent for the most part has thrown at floyd----size really didn't matter in that fight--i mean floyd has dominated and hurt bigger fighters in the past---it was the fact that floyd took away jmm's will because jmm couldn't hit him----he hit him a couple of times of course---floyd does get hit---he's not invincible--and shane will land on him, but floyd rolls with the punches mainly--he's always looking---shane throws punches at times with his eyes closed and he has paid for that a few times, and floyd has that 6th sense in the ring, he will catch shane if he does this----shane bites his bottom lip and tries to knock people's heads off---lol--he cracks me up with that---anyway, i don't see how shane will win more than 2 rounds, if that, due to just his activity early in the fight----shane is something special---don't get me wrong--but floyd is floyd---he is the dominant fighter of the last 3 decades--believe it or not---
I think if Floyd takes him beyond the 7th or 8th round it could get messy for Mosley. The early rounds are crucial for Mosley, he needs to do his damage early.
yes he may get embarrassed but he may also do very well. Its' up to Mayweather imo, if he is as sharp as he was with Marquez then i cant see Shane winning a round let alone the fight.
and just so you know, i dont really like Mayweather and i hope Shane wins, i just cant see it.
I think Bro Nazim want's Mosley to have trouble in sparring with a good boxer.He knows they are about to face one of the best boxers the sport has to offer.He also knows that Mosley get's frustrated when thing's are not going his way.In this fight he can not afford for this to happen to him.That's what I think they are working on staying focus and being relaxed.In the Marga's fight Mosley was so relaxed the most relaxed I've ever seen Bro Nazim will have his part to play in this victory.
Shane isnt on Floyds level. There is a huge talent gap that will be on display May 1.
Age ist the problem. Mosley is too old to make it competitive.
But i would be so happy if someone knocks this Mayweather prick out!!
shane has never been that elusive with his movement or punches----here's how u guys have to look at this for me----when u compare floyd's style or punching to shane's style of punching u have to look at how their upperbody movement is before they punch---
floyd throws sharp punches----so does shane---but floyd lands punches at ease---shane doesn't--u know why? coz shane's upperbody movement is so stiff and robotic---he is a pwerful guy--so he moves like a powerful guy----which disrupts his patience and timing----
floyd moves his upperbody with finesse because he is a tactician and patient fighter--he fights elusive--and moves elusive--he never rushes things like shane does---he knows how to evade punches and counter them only to reposition himself to land another counter or lead punch---that's great balance he has----
shane is a fighter, period--with boxing skills--but he is not a boxer/puncher like he was at 135----he is an aggressive athletic fighter---he has great skills---but his movement is fishy--and his jab is so lazy---he throws that jan to the body and leaves himself open all the time--his defense is lackluster---he hits hard though--and his stamina is good, but he tires out in the middle rounds when he gets outboxed, and fights harder in the championship rounds coz he doesn't pace himself that good---he shows off for the crowd--when he gets hit, he will try to hit back right away, and floyd will use his adrenaline against him, that's how floyd dictates his fights---it looks as if he's not being active enough, he's calculating his movement, and reading his opponent's eyes, and movement---that's whhy he's so cerebral in the ring, he's a wizard---shane will find himself not only missing floyd all night, but getting peppered by floyd's jab and lead right hand---i don't even think floyd wil throw too many left hooks at shane---he won't have to really--coz shane has a lost fights by just being jabbed to death---and floyd feints with his jab---shane is an athlete by far, but floyd is a technician, and you will see how floyd dominates this kid in the ring, i'm telling you---floyd still has great reflexes, just look at his last fight with a great combination counterpuncher in jmm---look at the last minute of round 4----and the beginning minute of round 6, and round 9 and 10---just see how floyd dipped jmm's punches, and countered him with a right hand only to immmediately duck under a counter right hook jmm threw at him in round 6----this is what seperates floyd from shane and manny---they aren't counterpunchers at all---they have counterpunched in the past yes, but they are not poised enough to position and reposition themselves for the next punch after the counter punch like floyd---floyd will make it look easy----watch round 4 of the jmm fight when floyd evaded a combo by jmm and made jmm stumble by just missing floyd---he did this a few times in the fight.lol. in rounds 4 and 5----i mean floyd is boxing at it's best----
shane is not going to beat floyd and will be totally dominated---
I can't lie this is one of the better May will dominate Mosley post great point's you made.But I have to answer some of these thing's you put in here.I totally agree May move's gracefully in that ring.He is one of today's best boxer's hands down.But that don't always win fight's.You say Mosley has been dominated with just a jab by who Tall Rangy boxers who could keep away with their reach(Please don't say Cotto that argument is trash they landed the same amount of punches with Mosley landing and hurting Cotto so that won't do).While May is a great boxer he is not a tall rangy boxer.Do you truly believe that Jmm would have look good against any WW(I can't think of one he would have look good against)if so who?I believe shane will get hit in this fight.I also believe May will get hit in this fight more then alot of people expect.I also see Shane punching threw May's guard to that body.I hear what your say and respect your take on this fight.But I think you are sell the sugar man a bit short.Oh do you think Shane would not have stop Marquez?
I agree, Mayweather ain't stopping Mosley, regardless of his output. He has more then enough to get Mosley's respect but not enough to stop Mosley. Hopefully it's competitive man.
Yeah, he better be able to get Mosley's respect or it will look worse than Castillo I (I thought Floyd won that btw).
Good point. That's why Floyd won't knock him out and Mosley is so strong and durable that you feel he will always competitive. However I just think Shane's style will bring out the best in Mayweather, I like Mosley but I see him having alot of trouble with Floyd's defence and counter punches. We gotta remember Shane gets hit alot more than he used to and Floyd is the most successful boxer compubox has tracked in terms of percentage landed and percentage avoided. So that's what I see being a big problem but for Shane but it should be a good competitive fight
I agree and, as of right now, I see Maywether coming out on top. But Mayweather can be intelligently out-hustled.
If the fight is fought mostly on the outside, Mosley won't have much of a shot, but if he can find his way inside consistently, he can pull of the upset.
rumor is mosley is getting beat up in sparring
Now this is what I heard as well.But if he is working on something he is expected to get hit up.He is sparring with a light heavy that can box and beat chad dawson in the amatures.
yes... he once was... about 6-10 yrs. ago.
The guy Mosley just destroyed May would have never fought.If he did fight him he would not have look as good as Mosley doing it.
Mosley was a great fighter and yes he does still have skills left.
That is the truth.
But time flys and it gets to the point when a fighter and his fans must admit things change. Time defeats more legends than opponents.
I am of the strong believe that this fight is late. Will I be watching, yes!
But the Margarito fight was over a year ago, and Mosley is not the fighter he was five years ago.
Just how I feel about and I respect those that might disagree but I have seen this pattern a hundred times before over the years and will again another hundred times in the future.
Dude I can respect your post.I'm going off of what I know of both fighter's.One thing I can tell you about Mosley is if he has anything left it will be left in that ring.
Anyone that sees Mayweather stopping Mosley has to be an idiot.
Floyd doesn't open up offensively anymore until his opponents are tired. Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, and Marquez his output has gone up from 30+ the first few to 40+. He just doesn't feel comfortable taking chances against a fully energized opponent. And when have you ever seen Mosley tired?
I agree, Mayweather ain't stopping Mosley, regardless of his output. He has more then enough to get Mosley's respect but not enough to stop Mosley. Hopefully it's competitive man.
Anyone that sees Mayweather stopping Mosley has to be an idiot.
Floyd doesn't open up offensively anymore until his opponents are tired. Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, and Marquez his output has gone up from 30+ the first few to 40+. He just doesn't feel comfortable taking chances against a fully energized opponent. And when have you ever seen Mosley tired?
People were saying Margarito was going to embarrass Mosley. Look how that turned out. Mayweather deserves to be the favorite in this fight, but I think Shane definitely has a chance to win this fight. I'm really pulling for him. Shane is easier to like than Mayweather.
shane has never been that elusive with his movement or punches----here's how u guys have to look at this for me----when u compare floyd's style or punching to shane's style of punching u have to look at how their upperbody movement is before they punch---
floyd throws sharp punches----so does shane---but floyd lands punches at ease---shane doesn't--u know why? coz shane's upperbody movement is so stiff and robotic---he is a pwerful guy--so he moves like a powerful guy----which disrupts his patience and timing----
floyd moves his upperbody with finesse because he is a tactician and patient fighter--he fights elusive--and moves elusive--he never rushes things like shane does---he knows how to evade punches and counter them only to reposition himself to land another counter or lead punch---that's great balance he has----
shane is a fighter, period--with boxing skills--but he is not a boxer/puncher like he was at 135----he is an aggressive athletic fighter---he has great skills---but his movement is fishy--and his jab is so lazy---he throws that jan to the body and leaves himself open all the time--his defense is lackluster---he hits hard though--and his stamina is good, but he tires out in the middle rounds when he gets outboxed, and fights harder in the championship rounds coz he doesn't pace himself that good---he shows off for the crowd--when he gets hit, he will try to hit back right away, and floyd will use his adrenaline against him, that's how floyd dictates his fights---it looks as if he's not being active enough, he's calculating his movement, and reading his opponent's eyes, and movement---that's whhy he's so cerebral in the ring, he's a wizard---shane will find himself not only missing floyd all night, but getting peppered by floyd's jab and lead right hand---i don't even think floyd wil throw too many left hooks at shane---he won't have to really--coz shane has a lost fights by just being jabbed to death---and floyd feints with his jab---shane is an athlete by far, but floyd is a technician, and you will see how floyd dominates this kid in the ring, i'm telling you---floyd still has great reflexes, just look at his last fight with a great combination counterpuncher in jmm---look at the last minute of round 4----and the beginning minute of round 6, and round 9 and 10---just see how floyd dipped jmm's punches, and countered him with a right hand only to immmediately duck under a counter right hook jmm threw at him in round 6----this is what seperates floyd from shane and manny---they aren't counterpunchers at all---they have counterpunched in the past yes, but they are not poised enough to position and reposition themselves for the next punch after the counter punch like floyd---floyd will make it look easy----watch round 4 of the jmm fight when floyd evaded a combo by jmm and made jmm stumble by just missing floyd---he did this a few times in the fight.lol. in rounds 4 and 5----i mean floyd is boxing at it's best----
shane is not going to beat floyd and will be totally dominated---
SSM's gonna' kick Floyd's ass. Floyd overplayed his brittle little hands. He lost millions by not having the balls to fight MP and in addition to that, he's gonna' get his ass kicked.
Floyd will pot shot him.
Shane has a lazy ass jab that Floyd will counter over the top. But the big key is Floyds jab because we all know thats Shanes weakness. Floyds jab to the body will stop Shane in his tracks then poof Floyd will dissapear when Shane is ready to fire.
so thats the huge gap in talent that will be on display?!? :lol1:......Floyd is as sharp as they come skill wise.....dude is a beast when it comes to the science of the sport and I don't think he'll try to pot shot Shane for 12 rounds.....I think Floyd is gonna try to stop Shane and I would be the FIRST to give him MAJOR props if he does......but I've seen this fight about a million times in my head dating back from 2001......all I see is Floyd getting KTFO in a good back and forth scrap......:boxing: