MGM Live Bet at round twelve was actually 5:1 for Loma. Sad day
Live betting only reflects public opinion. It's not the be all and end all.
The live odds were +100 for Haney, and -125 for Loma through 5. Haney was up through 5.
So basically, a very close fight that could've gone either way.
Rounds 1, 7, 8, and 9 were close on those cards. 1 of those rounds flips and it's 115-113 Haney.
I'm still not understanding the outrage. Even this site's live scorecard had it a draw.
Boxing fans are their own worst enemy. Constantly moan about top fighters not fighting each other and matchups being too uneven. We finally get an even match-up and everyone cries robbery because a close fight doesn't go the way of the fan favourite.
I was real curious to see AJ vs Wilder for the last 6 years but Fast Eddie aged Wilder out into irrelevance.
I doubt AJ would take on Zhang. That needs at least another 2 years of marinating to finely age Zhang out so AJ can make a meal of him then.
Though of course. Not without a rematch clause, juuuust in case!
Wilder has always been trash. Why are people acting like this was a completely different Wilder in the Parker fight? The only difference was the level of opponent.
Wilder has faced 2 elite fighters in his career and he has been decimated by both.
Oops, my bad. I read it as, because Parker beat Wilder, AJ would. Which is blatantly false.
Yeah you are right that is blatantly false.
You used the wrong tense. AJ has already beaten Parker.
The biggest mistake Haymon made was (successfully) discouraging Wilder from singing the 2-fight deal to fight AJ because it would have meant working with Hearn//DAZN. It’s hindsight, of course, but we will now know Wilder would have likely beaten AJ, twice and PBC would have had an iron grip on the entire heavyweight division (which certainly would have pleased Haymon’s hedge fund investors). PBC could have avoided overpaying Wilder to fight guys like Brazeale to keep him happy about losing out on the AJ fight - and he would have probably not have gone into the black hole of fighting a bad matchup like Fury three times. Haymon and PBC have done some good things but they blew it by letting ego and control get in the way of a Wilder-AJ fight.
Thanks, that made me laugh.
We now know Wilder would've beaten AJ in hindsight??
I think you've just proven that hindsight is not 20/20.
You have 1 heavyweight, who just barely got by an mma fighter with 0 professional boxing experience. Other than that, you have next to nothing.
We have 1 heavyweight that you yourself said is legit.
And we have another elite heavyweight, a gold medalist, 2x Unified champion, who has the best resume of any active heavyweight. Whether you call him elite or not is a moo point, the facts speak for themselves boy
he’s not elite. He’s a mentally weak quitter.
Throwing out accolades doesn’t make him elite. On paper I could say that Adrien Broner is a hall of famer because he’s a 4 division world champ. But in reality, if you know boxing, you’d know he isn’t on that level. Same with Joshua. Nice to throw out accolades but in reality, he isn’t an elite level boxer. He’s just someone who had some success in a weak era. And even in this weak era, has been exposed despite having significant physical advantages over his opponents.
That's all just hyperbole. I only deal with facts, not emotions.
The ring announcers saw it, everyone watching the fight saw it, and all you needed was a bit of intelligence to see he clearly wanted out. I do know that asking AJ fans to use intelligence is a bit of a stretch, so I’ll take accountability for overestimating you.
Usyk is the #2 ranked hw in a weak hw era. Not too difficult to comprehend but again, I overestimated the intelligence of your kind.
Queue the ad hominem attacks. Cute
Facts, he lost to a fat late sub and quit. Facts, he lost to a cruiserweight twice who hasn’t impressed at hw other than whooping Joshua twice and lost despite having a 20 pound weight advantage , 3 inch height advantage and
Significant reach advantage. Not elite.
Again, hyperbole my man. Get your emotions in check.
Fact, the referee called off the Ruiz fight, not AJ.
AJ has never fought at cruiserweight so I don't know how he could've lost to a cruiserweight.
Fact, he lost to the former undisputed cruiserweight champion, Olympic gold medal winner, a pound for pound top 10 fighter, who is currently recognised as the heavyweight champion.
Hearn has always been deluded when it comes to how he views AJ. That, or he’s just so used to so many fans on his side of the pond being gullible with the nonsense he spews, that he assumes the rest of the world is the as out of touch.
I feel sorry for the American boxing fans.
Haven't had a decent heavyweight in around a generation.
The one guy you had has been exposed.
You guys should get behind Andy Ruiz Jr. When it's all said and done, Ruiz will be the best American heavyweight of this era.
I get it!
You need to make Wilder's career seem like dogsh.it so that Parker's win seems less impressive...
...And to elevate AJ's sparring partner to world beater so he looks like God's gift to boxing.
So if AJ fought Wilder next and got laid out what would i say then ?
...cos there is every possibility that could happen. AJ knows it, Fast Eddie knows it. It's best not to tempt fate and find out though, dont you think ?
We could have found out if Wilder was able to beat Joseph Parker.
Because AJ swerved some talented fighters to angle a title shot, I hope Nganou ruins hearns plans.
this angle only works if fury wins.
knowing the sport, Nganou wins. Something that Eddie will never admit but eats him up is the fact that he was too scared to pull the trigger on the undisputed AJ/wilder fight. Why he’s dismissive towards wilder. At the end of the day, AJ has yet to face the #1 HW
Factually incorrect. Usyk is the Ring recognised #1 HW
Ya but ruiz knocked AJ out and beat parker. Parker’s also put on his career best performance vs wilder. It’s a joke to think AJ is light years ahead of wilder they’re both exactly the same loo
I only deal with facts.
1. Ruiz did not beat Parker.
2. I can’t say if it was Parker’s best performance, but his punch output was terrible. It’s just his opponent had less ring iq than Jake Paul.
Baumgardner is def petty. I mean even if you don't want to give mayer an immediate chance, you could say 'im open to it later, but i want undisputed next'.
Mayer has come across fairly well in their interractions whilst Baumgardner said things like
'ill dog walk the b*tch'
and more recently 'you horse faced karen' lmfao.
petty but fkin hilarious.
Petty as opposed to "Have fun going back to being a broke bitch" or kicking someone at the weigh-in?
Weird
White people in america come from europe dummy that's why we support Europeans. I can relate to them I cant relate to black americans.
White Americans have more in common with black Americans than they do Europeans.
You probably think you can relate to us Europeans but America is very different from Europe my friend.
Wilder is just about top 3 in the USA.
USA Heavyweight Rankings:
1. Andy Ruiz Jr
2. Jared Anderson
3. Deontay Wilder??
He's a domestic-level fighter. He needs to work his way up to the elite level.
And to think, AJ with all those levels still doesn't back himself to beat the corpse of Wilder even now.
He signed the fight, so that’s clearly not true.
But the Saudis won’t pay the big bucks to see AJ destroy Wilder.
That's the bottom line here. Most times bucks always stop with the fighter.
Most of these PBC fighters hide behind uncle Al's skirt.
In reality they can accept offers outside it they really want to.
Thurman and others admitted it themselves they're free to fight anywhere.
Wilder said it as well. Why else does Deontay have to wax poetic about loyalty?
You can also ask Luis Ortiz if there are restrictions accepting offers outside of the PBC house.
There are none.
Luis Ortiz was a bad example. He was literally blocked from taking the biggest purse in his career vs AJ.
You Brits need to stop clinging onto AJ. Fury has been the only legit UK heavyweight. Aj is just a heavyweight Chavez jr. A mentally weak quitter. See you Brits keep bringing it to Wilder, who I’m not defending. I’m literally saying he’s overrated with limited skill. But you all get defensive over AJ and pretend he’s on some different level when he’s not. His resume sucks too, biggest win is a washed up 40 yr old coming off a loss and year and half of inactivity. Otherwise, he’s another one of those Brits who has had domestic level success but truly isn’t an elite boxer. He and wilder are in the same plain of mediocrity whether you like it or not. You should be used it by now as mediocrity describes British boxing quite accurately for a while now.
You are right. We are spoilt for choice in the UK. We have multiple top tier heavyweights.
Fury is legit, as you say. His best win is Klitschko, so by your own admission that makes AJ legit.
Glad we could agree.
You’re in denial and deluded just like Hearn and most Brits. If you can’t tell that he quit vs Ruiz (even the announcer stated,” I think he wants out”) then you’re either dumb or lying to yourself. Usyk was a career cruiser who looked subpar as a hw and beat the shyt out of AJ. All facts and not hyperbole. Just accept it.
Ahhhh so the ring announcers are the arbiters of truth.
So your logic is that Usyk, the number 1 heavyweight in the world, is subpar.
Fair enough. Whatever helps you sleep.
AJ has NOT beat the Parker who beat Wilder though and isn't game enough to find out if he could because Parker could destroy the fragile myth and legacy of A-side Joshy.
Ahhh yes AJ fought Parkers clone.
Nice try but fury beat Klitchko when he was champ and hadn’t lost a fight in about 7 yrs. AJ beat him after he came off a loss and a year and a half of inactivity, and had to go through hell to do so. Outside of Fury, Uk boxing is extremely mediocre.
Yeah you're right pretty mediocre for our great country.
We have 2/3 of the elite heavyweights, but we should really be doing better.
Spoken like a keyboarder who has never stepped in the ring. Typical Brit, a lot of mouth but nothing of substance is really being said. Fitting that you’ve named yourself plunger as you seem to be full of shyt. In a combat sport, being the smaller man is not an advantage. Being more skilled and mentally tougher is, and that’s why Usyk beat the limited and fragile minded AJ. Not sure why that’s tough for you to grasp, Uk boxing has been the minor leagues for decades now. Clinging to the days of the Canadian Jamaican Lewis can only last so long.
Usyk beat AJ twice because he’s better than AJ.
Parker whitewashed Wilder because he’s better than Wilder.
Honestly, you Americans should stop clinging onto Wilder. Ruiz is the true American HW hope. Wilder is just a HW Rolly Romero. He hasn’t beaten anybody of note, or developed an ounce of skill “TO THIS DAY!!”