yeah if floyd is willing to box and not run and not use elbows illegally, he hasn't cheated in a while. Remember many people strongly believe PBF lost to castillo.
PACMAN v HATTON
Pacman is good and fast but he hasnt really fought any real competition except for JMM. Not to say that PAcman isnt' any good, truth he hasnt really fought a real good boxer. I agree with the other comment, about Diaz and DLH, that wasnt a good fight it was a waste of time and money.
Hatton was OK until he fought Mayweather, after that he fought, an hisonaic guy from houston, and almost got TKOed if wasnt for his bootlaces that were so conveniently unlaced and that gave him time to recover, thanks to the ref.
However Hatton has been training with Mayweather SR. who's prbably the best trainer in the world, however this is his second time with him 1st against Malignini and now Pacman. Let's see if an old dog can learn new tricks.
It should be one great fight.
Split decision if Hatton doesnt fight the way Jaun Diaz fought against JMM.
Who has the most KOs
Hatton should win, easy.
Especially know that he has Mayweather Sr.
Compare the Ricky and Paul.
Paul is a paper tiger. Hatton is the real deal compared to PM.
Idiots!!! NOT RACISM.
can you say lame duck? this might be enough to get Obama the W but never underestimate the power of racism.
Racism? How about stupidity, hypocrisy??? Obama is such a flip flop, some maybe half maybe most of his followers are wooed by his BIG empty PROMISES of change.
He's so empty and vague its amazing that so many people believe this huge hype of change.
If he wants to run a socialist country run somewhere else. Not the USA.
Ignorant people who dont read, dont look into things, call it criticizing when Obama is challenged with his connection/relationships with Terrorists and Terrorists groups.
Idiots!!! NOT RACISM.
Tyson !!!!!!!!!!
Without a doubt Mike Tyson revived the sport. He was awesome and just drew huge crowds, publicity and contracts. You name it, everlast, nintendo, wheaties etc, etc.... He was on it. Cause he was the man who made the biggest impact in boxing. Reason, he's amazing knockout power.
Atleast Pac is honest about it when he says:
"Its not my job to see who my next fight is, its my promoters job, I just kick there ass to make people happy and make them ponder retiring, but it looks like your not happy yet, until I retire Marquez, which I will".
True, pacman does say that. Weird, though how he wont pick a fighter. He just wont do it. Arum and Roach probably has him on lockdown.
Try not to be so transparent in your posts if you want to come across as objective and fair. Arum is also talking about a possible match with Cotto yeah, that sounds like a cake walk to me. Hatton the guy that has only lost to Mayweather and it took 10rds to get him down....with the help of the ringpost...Pac made him ponder retirement in under 2.
10 rounds because he doesn't study his fighters, prior to fights. He studies them during a fight then adjusts according to the holes in the defense. And he also tires them out.
Unlike Pacman n Roach who studied, Hatton. I think they said he always drops his left before he hooks. Thats why Pacman made it look so easy.
Before each of those fights people say Pac will get demolish and will get KO. After each of the fights, those same people will came up with excuses and upto now some retards are not done with their excuses...
Which ones??? be specific. You are WRONG, uninformed. Then again to his countrymen they probably portray him to always be the underdog. and then SURPRISE.
If manny wins... Floyd had his tune up and is still in his prime.. So i see no excuse for floyd at all..
Now if floyd wins... Nothing can be said for manny right? I just wanna get this shi clear because it seems that the majority of people here believe that if floyd gets past marquez.. He loses to manny.
Im close to bulls eye with what im saying right?
agree ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Uneven Match
Just wondered how you guys feel. I thought it was worth every penny. The fight was a classic, and i gurantee it being considered in this years fight of the year.
Bob Arum and Roach know who to place against Pacman and when. If it's someone dangerous, i.e. JMM, they will space him out. Pacman's bouts have bene so unevenly matched it's not even funny.
He's a good boxer, but he's overrated because he looks so good against some level "B" or "C" fighters, unlike him who's a level "A" fighter.
Hatton, D.Diaz, DLH, Morales's later years, Barrera's later years, c'mon Arum should give him a little more competition. Pacman vs JMM were two great fights. Despite of who you thought won, they were two great fights.
vr,
M
Precisely, whens the next time we'll see a fight like this?
Hatton is not considered an elite fighter like Pacman. He's a pro boxer but not an elite fighter.
hand picked??
your out of your asshole mind man!
do you mean he should fought lesser than MAB or EM and JMM that time?
do you mean he should fought other DIAZES or nate than a tank D. DIAZ?
after ODLH done in boxing he's now a zombie fighting pac.
after hatton fought kostya and other and he's hand picked guy too.
next to be hand pick is cotto, pbf, mosley etc.
do you mean he should be fighting heavyweights moron.
No.No.No.4th question?????.
We'll see against Cotto, remember he has a different trainer, Clottey's fight will be a good indicator. Why? the Trainer you idiot.
No. He should fight whoever they want him to. But give him credit where credit is due, if its worthy. Don't make a big deal out of it, beating a dehydrated DLH, or Diaz or Hatton. C'mon. Dont be so childish. Then again maybe you are a child. Your replies speaks volume of your maturity and education.
Kid you must be confused. No where in my post did I mention Mayweather's name yet you brought him up 3 times. But if you want to bring him in the equation, let's do it. Truth is, Pac shat on his two best wins by beating them in a more impressive fashion. Took him a SD to take care of DLH and a much smaller man in Pac absolutely destroyed him. Something in the back of your mind thought Pac would win? Yea? Well something in the back of my mind is saying you're full of shit.
DLH win was a great win because of the fashion that he did it. You seem forget how high Pac had to climb to get in that fight and the size disparity between both. Did you know Pac debuted in the US at 122 on the undercard of DLH at 154?!?! THAT is why it's a more impressive win than Mayweather's SD bicycle show.
To add, you actually picked Hatton to win by SD and thought it'd be a great fight. Why would make a pick like that if you thought Hatton was damaged goods after Mayweather? Like I said, Hindsight is 20/20.
You think I'm the only one giving this guy credit for destroying DLH and knocking out the UNDISPUTED JR. WW LINEAL CHAMPION in 2 rounds but no. The whole boxing world is. Pundits, historians and fans alike. Opinions that have a lot more weight than puromexicano198's from boxingscene.com
What about his fight vs David Diaz????
And let me guess, you went against Pacquiao in all these fights which destroys your post of him being protected.
Against Barrera, last fight, I knew he wasn't going to win. Based off of his last performance against Pacman. That's why he fought really reserved, to not get hurt against Pacman.
Against D. Daiz, Everyone who follows boxing knew before the fight ever happened that this was going to be a major whooping on Diaz. No Doubt about it. They picked him not because he was a competition, picked him cause he had a belt. It wasn't a fight it was a whooping, just to add a belt to Pacman. Roach and Arum admitted to this before the fight, that it was going to be one-sided, but still tried to give Diaz some weight by saying he was a real tough fighter, LAME AND WEAK.
Against DLH, I thought DLH was going to whoop him. But in the back of my mind that wasn't common sense from a money making business perspective. You see why would a boxer who's out the door beat a boxer who is rising to the top. That doesn't make any sense.
Against Hatton, I knew he was going to lose. Why? He was demoralized after PBF, almost got KTOed by Lazcano, unknown guy from Houston. His unlaced boots saved him, by giving him time to recover. The ref gave him plenty of time, by the way it was done in England, hmmmm. He's great boxer in England but against Elite fighters like PAcman he's not in the same category.
Level playing field isnt making someone lose a lot of weigh by coming down to weigh, Losing weigh is one of the most difficult things in boxing if you're a bigger guy because you really dont have enough time to re-hydrate.
If you're a bigger guy having to lose alot of weigh then you really dont have any physical advantages left going into the ring.
Thats why Roach is a very smart guy..
This is where the thread seems to be going for the most part.
Roach looking out for his boxer. Making others drop weight to their disadvantage.
LOL A Pac hate thread by a poster names "puromexicano". Still hurts I guess lolol.
Not really. Pacman is actually a exciting fighter to see, though. He does get better every time.
Funny thing is his recent fights against big names has been too much hype. He's getting over credit for some of the fighters he's facing.
They should give credit where credit is due. Not any time or against anyone.
Also shows your level of indepth thinking, which based off of your comments it isnt much.
Saying it is one thing, we'll see though. I never blamed Pacman, like he said, he boxes and his promoters pick the fighters. Personally I think he does a great job training before the match, that's why he performs so well during one.
It's just the quality of fighters he's put up against, who happen to have belts.
My name alone makes it worthless
Pardon? :dead1:
My name has nothing to do with my post.
You didn't look at the question I brought up because of my name. You didn't even bother to read my comments, because of my name.
Thats pathetic.
Initials, MP. Your a Pacman fan. So any comments that may seem negative or ill willed made by a Mexican, you automatically throw them out, without regarding the content. My friend thats pathetic. you think like a young child.
Any fighter who has the ability to fight and beat the best in multiple weight classes will have the luxury of being able to handpick their opponents because they won't have any mandatories to deal with like they would staying at 1 weight division. Pac chose to fight DLH and Hatton because they were the 2 biggest paydays for him and Hatton was still the man to beat at 140 no matter how many excuses you make. If Pac fights Floyd (who also handpicks his opponents) it will also be because of the payday plus Floyd is still the man to beat at 147 and also for the P4P title.
Why should Pac or Floyd fight for smaller purses against unknown fighters? Because some people on a message board think so and so would be a tougher fight? Every fighter has flaws and every fighters record can be discredited by haters and trolls, it's getting old though...
Good point in reference to making fights based of bloggers instead of what will make the most money.
I agree it's about the MONEY.