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The answer to why Oscar would allow it is in his eyes. He's drunk as shit in those photos. Look, the dinosaurs in King Kong and JP and the robots in Transformers looked real. These are very easy to pick apart, and to tell where they were doctored. Also, some of the pics you can see the fine crop wedge where his face was placed in, and his face was manipulated. Also, his face tones, and his red eye, does not match the flash on the girls faces. But, people will say, and believe what they want, so, you cant change anything.

What the fuck is this? This was interesting when comparing species, but if you're going to list ratings on fighting dogs it is getting a little sick. It feels like we're one step away from seeing dogfight videos posted here. Just don't. Hold your panties bub, was just showing that you have famous bulldogs that bit way hard, freak mouth, and the same breed had champs with no ability to break the skin. So same goes for Rotts, Sheps and so forth. You can test test the bite of one, and get off the hook readings, test another member and get nothing extraordinary. And I said hard biting dogs, I was not nr did I ever mention their abilities as fighters, as I would not know.:kiss:

Hey, Roadblock, you got some proof of their pulling abilities? Just interested is all. They do have quite the bite, but nothing compared to the bite of a hyeena. Look through these. http://youtube.com/watch?v=xbRwaqdhTqs&feature=related

also these http://www.rokireds.com/weightpull.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5f6Fwf4V8 http://www.iwpa.net/

Trust me, I know allot about these awesome animals. I just don't go around talking too much, not because I am doing illegal things, but often times you cant win. But anyone looking to prove that these animals cant hold what we have said, talk to lou Colby's family in Boston, or bert sorrell, or other long time families. In my country we used APBT's for many things, and gangbusters were one, and bull catching and wild pig another, a site to see indeed.

lets get this out to the way pitbulls are p4p the strongest...it dosn't make them the strongest rotts, are stronger but thats because they weight a lot more. pitts are excellent fighting dogs because they usually never curr unless they are too badly hurt. they also have excellent stamine. ive seen vids of a rott destorying a pitt the entire time but it tires out and the pitt eventually takes it out. tosa inu are the best fighting dogs...they eat pitts for breakfest. japanese won't even match them up because it's a waste of time and money./QUOTE] Ok, I have seen many a vids where this, is not the truth. Below, baddest and true and game and hard ass biting bulldogs in recent times... Gr Ch Haunch Gr Ch Grunt Ch Big Boy Big Buck 2xw Ch Bolero Gr Ch Firecracker Goldie 2xw Gr Ch Yellowman Champions with NO mouth Ch Casper Ch Deadlift Gr Ch Cheese(curr)

Well, your sense of humor is not much better. You know what I hate most, when people say "I love my pitbull, and I will never fight it, and I dont know why people fight these dogs, or hunt with them they are so much more than just..."...I hate that because without all that there would be no breed to love. Anyways, its pointless arguing with the uninformed and the media driven people whom have no thoughts of their own.

Ok, guys come on. All these commenst, about, "look how skinny his legs are compared to his upper", "Tyson was too big, so he took roids", "he was bigger in his 20's, than he was when a teenagre", no shit. Look, roids give you power for a short term deal, and hamper like hell stamina. Hloy's syle, YOU HAD TO HAVE NATURAL stamina, it would be impossible to fight like he did ad be on enough of a roid program to get any sort of edge, without getting winded past the 6th. Look at Tyosn in his ameture ring days, HUGE. Listen. people get bigger as they get older, because their metabalism slows. Also, some bodybuidlers will tell you, some of them, cant get thgier legs huge if they wanted to. End of the story is, it comes down to genetics. Oh, and to those who say pimples are a sign, and in some are, but I ave never sed ANY sort of drug, and I have random breakouts. Lets concentrate now, on the boxers whom are actuve, and lets make sure they are playing fair. Arguing about fighters who dont matter in the ring now is just pointless.

So what if he picked Judah, he had a god reason to........judah had ALL THE TOOLS. And he showed them all, but one, concentration, so it was not a bad pick, and hes not god, so he can be wrong. I picked Oscar, because, ring exp, number of huge fights, size, powr, time at higher weight great boxing skills. Also, Oscar, while old in boxing, is not much older than Floyd, and he has skills to employ, if behind to get the job done, oh, and he has a great chin. So Floyds speed, and OK power, and suspect chin, and level of opposition lead me to believe is not enough to beat Oscar. Also, this is boxing, and I understand as with the Hops fight, one punch in the right spot can change things.

....If he loses that's exactly what will happen. Be prepared for a ton of incoherant bullshit by he and his corner is he gets smoked. In fact, look for a melee in the ring with bodies flying everywhere. Dude, I'm so hoping thats what would happen, so that he would shed that "I'm so this " attitude. I hope he never gets a rematch if he looses.

well, like i said, he beat douglas, with a 3 week keep, and just ran out of gas, and no corner. The only fighter that I always said could beat MIke was evander, it had nothing to do with heart, but evanders style I thought would be too much. Evander had the perfect blend to beat Mike. Now, you can say that the 80's had cans, but without Mike, we would be saying "well, look how great the 80's were, with this guy, that guy, and that guy, remember that fght =, oh wow." But Mike was there, and made everyone go away, and its not fair to mike to do that to his legacy. Lewis got Ko'd my Oliver, and Rahman, now tell me, if lewis, would have fought Lewis, when Mike was prime, he would not have beaten him?

Look is easy, Tyosn at 23 years old, if he lands on anyones chin, is going home sleeping. He had great head movement, a nice jab to the body, and he was the first to really throw a double left hook to the body which he than barng up to the head in the same quickness. Also, he does not get credit for being a really smart fighter, I think he should train kids now and see how he does. Also, in the buster fight, he ko'd buster, but got cheated out of that, and, he had 3weeks camp, no corner man, no cut man, they used a glove filled with water to try and make an impropt inswell. And when dropped, he tried to get back up, and fight, game to the bone. Past his priem, after the Holyfield losses, he still beat some ranked guys ugly. His story is just unfortunate one when you give an inner city kid, 100 million before hes 25, and thats where that gets you. Back to the thread, Ali could not have done rope a dope with tyson like he did with Foreman, because Tyson hits harder, and has staright short punches, and with Frazier, he had problems keeping farzier out. So in my opinion, he would probably get Ko'd, and so would Frazier because Frazier knows only one way to fight and thats forward, with some movement, and thats what tyson wants when he fights.

This remids me of a rooster fight back in Puerto Rico I saw. There was a slow, but pwerful unbeaten 5 lb'er and a very fast, unbeaten 4 lb'er. The 4 pounder pond for pound was better, speed, accuracy and power, but remember, the term is pound for pound. So, they pitted them, and while the smaller was balzing, his pound for pound power was not enough to really dent the bigger one too much, and his power, the bigger, was too much in the end for the smaller one. In essence, the better rooster lost. And thats what would probably happen to Floyd. His power wont be enough to deter Taylor from coming forward and throwing, and wold probably wear Floyd and KO Floyd.

When I 1st saw Chavez Jr, I said wow, he is soooooooooooo slow. BUt he was a kid, 17 at the time, and, I found out no amature exp. So he was learning on the job, but when I saw him 20 fights later, his speed had improved, he has a really nice left hook combo to the body. I have seen him get cut, and just get more angry, so theres some level of heart so far. Hes is still in his very early 20's, and my advice would be, take him slow, and move up gradually, and let him develope. I am not saying he is going to be great, but he may suprise us a few times. I myself have grown into an early fan.

Chavez sr took a long time, but he did eventually beat almost all the top fighters in his weight classes, and beat them, and when he was loosing to Taylor, he never stopped punching, and thats why he got lucky, a true champ does not stop fighting. Chavez had lots of great attributes, but no one brings it with them EVERY time, but he did enough. I think Jr has a great shot, and who cares how long he takes to fight a known guy, if he does not ever, well, we wont worry, we will only care when he does.

What he should do is now put preassure one the champs to fight him in the nexy 3 months, or 4, because this fight he really never got hit or hurt, or exhausted. Thats the problem with HW fights, one meaningful one every 6 months. You could actually get the div up again, if there were not so many polotics involved in who fought who.

I'm worried because of the Oscar fight, I cant order ppv, so they are my only hope. I think MMA tv might steam it live, they did that with other big fights.

i dont post usually, but these are CHAMPIONS!!! when i hear "hes not ready, needs two or three more"...wtf....HES A CHAMPION NOT A CONTENDER!!....i wish these "champs" would act like it. Mayweather, and im not a Floyd super fan comes off lengthy lay offs and shuts "champions" out. Difference between FMjr is that its a biggest payday, low risk. With GGG its a good payday, you more than likely will get KTFO....

Joshua quit, plain and simple. He did not want much more. He's big, athletic, but you have to want to be a fighter.

Wilder did the right thing not taking the deal for 4 fights. Also, Aj is not a Dzn fighter, so why should wilder commit when Aj does not have to. And wilder was coming up. So if wilder would have won the Aj fight, he would have had a rematch on a flat fee with no back end, when at that point he would definitely be A side. Good decision not going to Dzn.

To say that the qualities that make a game dog has existed in every other dog forever is...well....the most far removed truth ever. So yes, there are super atheltics, super pain threshold dogs, and super smart and some can fight well, not just dogs but in the hunt. Now find me one dog, that has all of those. Yes the REAL BULLDOG aka pitbull. Now, crenshaw, garret, stp, norrod, hienzel, colby, carver, aycart, long, tudor....some of those men are dead....not from being eaten and have had hundreds of dogs....the others are well alive into old age, still have game dogs. Now in recent years for money guys been crossing for size, color ect. Mixing breeds to get to their goals creating unpredictable dogs that look like what the media tells us pitbulls are. If i showed you a picture of the most famous game dogs, by the PETA standard they would be labeled mixes. As a matter of fact the REAL pitbull sucks as a guard dog because he is bred to be animal aggressive not human due to the nature of its job. A dog needed tobbe handled throughout its life by many different hands other wise the dog was almost useless to its owner. Some great dogs were sold many times, so an aggressive dog again was of no value. I dont like pitbulls, and I dont think there is a place for them. The positive qualities that pitbull owners praise..... have existed in every other dog, forever. The negative qualities that pitbull owners forget..... is that they sometimes get killed and then eaten by their own dogs. The positive qualities exist in every other dog, rendering pitbulls unnecessary, considering their faults..... and the negative qualities are unthinkable, and did not exist before pitbulls. I have never heard of a dog killing, and then eating, its owner. NEVER ! I have heard of a dog eating its owner, rather than starve. Since first hearing that a pitbull killed/ate his owner years ago, everytime since then that I have heard of a dog killing its owner, that dog was a pitbull. And no, we are definitely NOT talking about mistreated dogs here. I have still to this day never heard of any other dog turning on its owner and killing them, and yet many pitbulls have done just that. We dont have too many american pitbulls in my country, but I would never let one near my kids.

I dont like May, but man that fight was not close, and I'm Prican. Cotto landed like 3 good shot and one broke May's nose. The rest he was throwing but May's dfense was too slick. Hardly any punches landed, and Floyd was teeing off. It was a tough fight because Floyd made it tough, he even rocked Cotto in the 12th.True story.

This is a dumb thread.....at 140 or 147 JMM is shot. And Pac is in a position to call the shots ala Floyd. If a fighter agrees to a weight then that fighter feels he can still win at the proposed weight. No one forces any fighter to fight, its all free will.

Paulie won this...but I do believe he broke his hand, because I was saying, he's a one arm man. Then he said he broke it...and I believe him.

Glad to see another dogman, but the media and PETA along with the humaniacs have brainwashed the general public. But i agree that dogfighting no longer belongs here, we just have to find another way to breed for work within this breed. Its not bizarre when know what really happens , they dont fight dogs they allow them to fight , a working dog would rather work than breath , a race horse will run until he blows his heart up , a fox hound will run himself to death to follow the scent of game , man has bred animals to such a point they want nothing more than to do what they were bred to do . A pit dog would rather fight than do anything else its his instinct , you cant make a dog fight and win in competition just the same as you cant make a racehorse win races if he dont want to run , a pit dog is not a crazy killer he is an intelligent fighter with a will to dominate , a killer is Charles Manson a fighter is Mick Katsidis , this is how it is with real dogs . People that own and only know dogs as lap dogs and cooochie coo dogs have no idea of the drive thats inbuilt into world class working dogs . When the only source of someones knowledge is propaganda thats spoon fed them by the media maybe they should occasionally seek the truth instead of being so easily led . Shane should have a word with Roy Jones and Manny Pac because they both allow animals to fight in competition , its not my personal cup of tea but when you know what really happens with the real people that do you soon find out its nothing like its painted .

Ever since the day before weigh ins have been instituted all of boxings weight divisions have been faight at a catch weight. This arguement is null and void. Now put back day of and you will have better arguements. as far as JMM, it does not matter what weight..........JMM gets slaughtered.

Tito was great and had a "punchers chance", but lets be real. His skill level was not on Floyd's level. He didn't beat any elite WW EITHER, and got out boxed by Oscar. He also was getting worked and out boxed by "THE GREAT" David Reid, and Fernando Vargas before resorting to hitting both with low blows. He might have beat him but i doubt it. Did you actually see those fights? Vargas was done after one, Reid was put down 8 times, and ODH ran after a very good left hook landed early\mid fight. Geezz Floyd would need power to keep Tito from coming in, a respect punch which he does not now or had then. So countering a 25 year old Tito would do very little to discourage him from going forward. Oscar gave him some problems, but he was in his dead prime, a non prime Oscar gave Floyd issues, so what does that say? If we are looking at common opponents.

No use in defending the history, the rules, and the character of this breed to the ignorant. MOst people dont even understand that most pitbull attacks on tv are not even pitbulls, but cross bred dogs that resemble pits. People everyday kill, or eat things killed in very "inhumane" ways. We all wear sneakers of leather, we all wear goose down at some point, we all use medications tested on lab animals. We all hae, or know someone who owns a purebred that was produced by euthinizing others that did not meet standard. When you see an 8 month old bulldog on the leash, want it more than anything you will understand. But lie is aid, lets not beat this until our heads turn blue. Lets talk boxing, mod close this thread please.

You summed that up perfectly, which is good, because it means I don't have to bother doing it myself, and I have had it with talking about that bull**** $50milliom offer. This is what AJ said about the 50 million, and makes no sense, since he explained nothing. So, let’s say that fifty million we talked about. Listen, it’s a hell of a lot of money and it was an honour to even have that number thrown at me! “But then when you dissected it and what it actually it was, it was kind of like a rights fee – ‘We own you for this amount of money’. “The issue I had was that I’ve got long-standing contracts in place with certain partnerships. So you may put that money forward and think that you own me 100% but you may only own 50% so that makes their 50% worth 25%. “So when you start getting into the intricacies of a contract and what the real value is, that’s when that starts taking place.

Prior to the Cotto fight, which may do quite well.... Manny’s last fight in November against Juan Manuel Marquez drew 1.41 million PPV buys, while Floyd’s fight last September against Victor Ortiz drew 1.25 PPV buys. Floyd’s fight with Marquez in 2009 drew 1 million PPV buys. Pacquiao’s fight with Antonio Margarito in 2010 drew 1.5 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s fight Shane Mosley drew 1.4 million PPV buys. Despite Mosley being perceived as a shot fighter, Pacquiao drew 1.3 million PPV buys in their May 2011 fight. In total Pacquiao’s last three fights have drawn 3.86 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s last three fights have pulled in 3.65 million PPV buys. In summation Pacquiao drew in 210,000 more PPV buys than Mayweather did. When you take into account the higher number of PPV buys that Pacquiao’s fights have drawn it translates into a cool $10,000,000 in cash. It is true that the Floyd Mayweather – Oscar De La Hoya fight in May 2007 drew a record 2.4 million PPV hits. Many boxing observers largely attribute the high PPV numbers in that fight to the extreme popularity of the Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hoya and the fact that it was held on the Cinco De Mayo holiday. But Pacquiao’s recent higher PPV numbers only tell part of the story. In the same three fights Pacquiao sold out the venues, while Mayweather’s last three fights were not sold out. In addition, when Manny Pacquiao fights at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas a significantly higher number of high rollers from Asia fly into Vegas for his fights. The economic impact in Las Vegas for a Pacquiao fight far outstrips that of any other fighter. In a study by CSE, an integrated sports and marketing firm, Pacquiao is one of only two boxers in the 2012 Power Rankings of the most powerful athletes in the world. Manny is ranked at number 28. Mayweather is ranked 49th in the same study. Both on and off field accomplishments are taken into account in the rankings. Endorsements and media presence figure heavily in the rankings. ole said on his twitter “Richard Schaefer said PPV is tracking well. He said ‘it could finish over 2 million.’ Said is is ‘Bit time ahead’ of Money-Ortiz fight.” In addition to that, Iole said “Attendance was 16,047. Gate was $11,999,996. Closed circuit attendance in LV was 9,286.” We’re talking a $12 million gate to go along with a possible 2 million PPV buys. This means that Mayweather could end up making between $60-70 million for his fight against Cotto. Those numbers are staggering, aren’t they? Mayweather already was guaranteed $32 million for the fight, but the PPV totals will make it much more, especially if they come in 2 million buys. The PPV record is 2.4 million buys in the Mayweather vs. Oscar De La Hoya fight in 2007. Nothing has come close to that fight since then. so who knows.....but Pac wont make that unless all Filipinos pitch in and help. My PR people had a lot to do with those PPV numbers in the Cotto fight, same will have to be said in the Bradley fight for Pac.