I really respect Atlas and his insites into the game of boxing. He has been spot on in alot of his predictions over the past few years, getting credit from Al Bernstein and Bert Sugar on Ringside.
He wasn't going to make a prediction for the fight but last night on Wednesday Night Fights he went out on a limb and picked DLH. Just for the record he picked Morales over Paquiao the first time they fought and then picked Pac in the second fight.
What I was most suprised with was how he said DLH would do it. I am in the thinking (like Roach) that DLH needs to bully and use his strength and size advantage over Mayweather. Atlas said he needs to keep PBF outside with the jab and use it to nuetralize PBF speed. Very interesting observation and wonder if DLH would employ that if the bully tactic doesn't work.
I do beleive DLH has the jab to do it but I fear that boxing from the outside will only lead to a decision win for Mayweather but hey, Atlas has been spot on in alot of his recent predictions. What do you guys think?
It didn't sound like Teddy believed that pick at all. They asked who he thought could win and he was talking about how oscar has a shot if he does this and that... but it sounded like he was just trying to sell the fight. Then they put him on the spot and he had to pick oscar.
He picked De La Hoya over Hopkins as well. I also have a lot of respect for Atlas, but he can sometimes be off. It is true that he also picked Judah over Mayweather. This means he has a history of slightly overestimating De La Hoya and underestimating Mayweather, so keep that in mind when you hear his prediction.
I never remember him picking DLH as a matter of fact he picked Hopkins and said it was a foolish fight for DLH to take. Please post the video where he took DLH over Hopkins because I could have sworn I heard other wise.
It was actully Teddy telling everyone that the fight was going to be close and competitive, and he picked Judah to illustrate that point, while actully conceeding that Floyd would be the likely winner.
so that's like picking both guys basically lol
Teddy Atlas never picks a winner and when he does, he throws in a lot of "if" and "but" statements. He's worthless
So what if he picked Judah, he had a god reason to........judah had ALL THE TOOLS. And he showed them all, but one, concentration, so it was not a bad pick, and hes not god, so he can be wrong. I picked Oscar, because, ring exp, number of huge fights, size, powr, time at higher weight great boxing skills. Also, Oscar, while old in boxing, is not much older than Floyd, and he has skills to employ, if behind to get the job done, oh, and he has a great chin. So Floyds speed, and OK power, and suspect chin, and level of opposition lead me to believe is not enough to beat Oscar. Also, this is boxing, and I understand as with the Hops fight, one punch in the right spot can change things.
He picked De La Hoya over Hopkins as well. I also have a lot of respect for Atlas, but he can sometimes be off. It is true that he also picked Judah over Mayweather. This means he has a history of slightly overestimating De La Hoya and underestimating Mayweather, so keep that in mind when you hear his prediction.
I don't care what Atlas says. He picked Judah over Mayweather. Mayweather adjusted and beat Judah.
Another historian Bert Sugar said Baldomir had a good chance against Floyd. Baldomir only won 1 round.
I respect Teddy Atlas a lot, he is a genius when it comes to disecting a fight and picking the right winner he's probably right 95% of the time the other 5% is when it's a flash KO that turns the fight around.
expect dela hoya to match floy's speed
I doubt that. I know DLH isn't slow by any means, but have you ever seen Floyd fight. He is lightspeeds faster than most of his opponents and DLH will be no different.
As for Atlas he does always seem to get things right. I remember when Allen Green fought Mcquery and Allen Green was dominating, but Atlas was saying Green was getting too cocky and was lowering his hands too much and then boom Green was down and almost out. He really understands the sport. On this pick though I don't know if he is right.
I really respect Atlas and his insites into the game of boxing. He has been spot on in alot of his predictions over the past few years, getting credit from Al Bernstein and Bert Sugar on Ringside.
He wasn't going to make a prediction for the fight but last night on Wednesday Night Fights he went out on a limb and picked DLH. Just for the record he picked Morales over Paquiao the first time they fought and then picked Pac in the second fight.
What I was most suprised with was how he said DLH would do it. I am in the thinking (like Roach) that DLH needs to bully and use his strength and size advantage over Mayweather. Atlas said he needs to keep PBF outside with the jab and use it to nuetralize PBF speed. Very interesting observation and wonder if DLH would employ that if the bully tactic doesn't work.
I do beleive DLH has the jab to do it but I fear that boxing from the outside will only lead to a decision win for Mayweather but hey, Atlas has been spot on in alot of his recent predictions. What do you guys think?
If you have seen the promotional features by HBO you will have noticed that Mayweather is considerably faster than DLH. Considering his style, DLH doesn't have many options to neutralizing Mayweather's speed advantage. He has to establish the jab, cut off the ring and bully Mayweather into the ropes. He will also need to hit Mayweather with that lefthook to the body. Chopping off Mayweather's legs isn't going to be easy but it is necessary to set up the knockout in the later rounds. If DLH isn't willing to walk through many of Mayweather's shots, he just won't get the job done.
i liek atlas's analysis that a jab and staying on the outside could be effective against PBF... forrest did it to shane... I believe a forrest/hearns type fighter(tall, quick jab, good boxing skills)) would give PBF hell... just a bad style for floyd to fight against
How did I know, that someone with the PR flag plastered all over their sig, and has avatars of Tito and Cotto would take this bet.
rofl
15K on Judah. It's on.
WHat does that have to do with anything? Judah is alright, he does have a chance. I like him, he trains at my gym. He a cool dude, but I just don't see him beating Cotto.
It's plastered because its where im from and im proud of it! That's why Cotto is gonna earn me your 15k points and 200$ in real life when he checks that ass.
You on! You gonna delivery my points and I want it as fast as Cotto drops Judah. :thanks:
It was actully Teddy telling everyone that the fight was going to be close and competitive, and he picked Judah to illustrate that point, while actully conceeding that Floyd would be the likely winner.
Actually no.
I'll try to find the video on youtube, but he clearly picked and expected Judah to WIN the fight.
lol beat me to it.
i dunno if that was legit though, i think it was just the counter-pick to larry merchant picking floyd.
It was actully Teddy telling everyone that the fight was going to be close and competitive, and he picked Judah to illustrate that point, while actully conceeding that Floyd would be the likely winner.
I'll take that shit.
How did I know, that someone with the PR flag plastered all over their sig, and has avatars of Tito and Cotto would take this bet.
rofl
15K on Judah. It's on.
Shit happens. De La Hoya has a great chance. Floyd isn't god. Anyone is beatable.
Why ya think that Floyd is gonna run down De La Hoya? He isn't Gatti.