TONEY OUTLANDED POWER SHOTS AGIANST RAHMAN... can we stop saying the guy cant hold his own?
i gaurentee you if toney was a pretty tall russian guy with ski or ko
at the end of his name yall would be givin him all the credit in the world but not its a short black man from michigan that everyone wants to see lose its been that way
nobody thought he'd beat jirov nobody thought he'd beat holyfield once he did that holyfield was a shell of his former self all of the sudden
i remember going into the holyfield fight people were saying this was gonna be holyfields fight to get back into the top because toney was a light hitting blown up middle weight...i remember those were your exact words guys.. now here we are 2 years later and toneys fought holyfield guinn ruiz AND rahman ...thats a hell of alot better resume for a guy who yall nut in your pants over him beating up on chris byrd for the second time
didnt mike tyson go on record more then once for saying he'd fuck other men?
tommy morrisons had more pussy then you your friends and mike tysons ugly ass
dude ken norton got used as a fucking sparin partner in the 70s dont give me that he proved him self shit ...he got a win over ali and maybe a few others but got ko'd into next week by the host of sluggers he fought
gatti beat a number of top contenders you guys just refuse to acwknowlage them...if mayweather beat dorin or leija you guys would be bragging about it on his record just like you do the gatti win now ..
if gatti counts as a good win for mayweather his resume should at least be reconsidered with more trained and unbiased eyes
ok, on to the next.
By the way guys, if you dont know the answer, dont just google it please. , if you must, Think about it before you do
we should do this in a chat room
Dude, perhaps you forget Ken Norton:
He beat Muhammad Ali was lost CLOSE decisions twice. He gave a PRIME Larry Holmes all Holmes could handle. He was competitive with hall of famers.
Gatti never even won a round from a HOFer. And never made it through the middle rounds. True Story.
Can Gatti be considered a "good win" for Mayweather when everybody said "he never should have been in there with Floyd"?
no not when im bashing mayweather jrs resume a few days ago and everyones defense is the gatti fight...
as for ken norton? i'll give you him based on the ali fights but getting ko'd by shavers foreman cooney in a round or 2 dosnt help his case
gatti fought 2 hall of famers that are definite picks ... so stop acting like he fought 10 of them and got stomped by all 10 ..
like i said if barry m goes so does gatti its my opion i obviously dont give a shit what you think so let it go ?
how do you know if hes got the proof? ... show us a link with results
or a link with him in a press confrence showing everybody results
untill then...they still havent found jimmy hoffa and tommy morrison still has HIV ..case closed
george foreman and tommy morrison are 2 different human beings ...
foreman got lead along a narrow path of mostly nobodys except for morrison and holyfield on the way to the title...
the powers that be pretty much handed foreman the belt so he'd retire
Then why are you posting and responding?? This is a place for discussion. This is a thread about gatti and HOF. :D :D
Either you got lost ...or you are acting like a child now.
your calling one of the most exciteing fighters to ever live a fuckin bum....and your calling me a child?
give me a fucking break you hipocritical cocksucker
and that "hall of famer" barry m beat had started boxing 10 years prior to when barry m started fighting approx ... so damn saying that was anything but a watershed would be a bull face lie
i hate gatti but im not about to say the man dosnt belong in hall of fame
he gave us the ward trilogy ... many many MANY highlightreel ko's plus 2 title belts to boot
the guys an over achiever !
I am absolutely shocked at the number of Gatti fans telling me he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Most of them admit that Gatti accomplished very little in terms of titles and important wins in the sport, but they say he deserves to get in because he's exciting. Let's get this straight: you're admitting Gatti isn't a great fighter but telling me he deserves to be recognized among great fighters because he was exciting and competitive against a lot of good-great fighters? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! Listen, you fell in love with Gatti because he is exciting, not because he was a Hall of Fame fighter. So many of you just feel bad for him and are hoping like mad that he gets in the Hall of Fame, but I'll put it this way: I don't know the quality of most fighters in the BOXING Hall of Fame, but in most other sports, you have to be pretty damn good to get into such a prestigious hall. You don't get in because you were popular or excitingly competitive in every loss. If the Boxing Hall of Fame has such low standards that they would put Gatti in, then I don't respect it at all.
I love Gatti as a fighter. I watch Gatti's fights as much as anybody else's. I'm a Corrales fan of course, and Gatti and Corrales are without a doubt the two most exciting fighters I've ever seen. But when it comes to success in boxing, it isn't even comparable. Has Gatti beaten anyone remotely close to a Jose Luis Castillo, Acelino Freitas, or Joel Casamayor? No.
On a side note, it's funny because Vargas' career is most likely over now as well, but no Vargas fans are dumb enough to be claiming he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
Gatti fans, you love your boy and that is fine. I love him too. But please shut up about this Hall of Fame trash because you're only making yourselves look foolish. If you're going to put Gatti in the Hall of Fame, then go find the guy who got off the canvas more times than anybody else in his career and put him in too. Don't forget to find the guy who was knocked out more times than any other fighter because surely he deserves to be recognized for that accomplishment. Oh yeah and we shouldn't forget to find the guy who committed the most fouls in a boxing match or the guy who has the most draws on his record because these men should be recognized for those distinctions.
I think I've made my point.
if barry m can get in because him fighting allowed a room full of caths and prods get along then gatti should beable to get in
because other then liberateing his country from violence for a few hours barry m didnt do shit
wouldnt you think that the first test....6 or 7 years ago tommy would have imediately took it to court ...said look its negative get a pannel of doctores to vote him in
he still would have been some what younger
why wait untill 05/06 to say something
you can obviously tell hes not seen gatti much he just brought up the ward fights...sure sign of a reject
i hate gatti the worst because of the gamache fight but i think he should be in the hall ...if barry m can get in on a featherweight title regin that didnt last long then yeah gatti should get in
they've let ken norton in...
frazier and foremans kids were in there in name only...more foreman then fraizer
ali was the only one to make anything of her name and i really dont think shes lost much at all i watched her fight and she puts her punches better then alot of the dudes in boxing lol no kidding
i think you should read a list of the current fighters in the hall of fame do so and then explain to me why gatti dont belong in there ...
Wilfredo Benitez
Nino Benvenuti
Jackie Kid Berg
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Ken Buchanan
Charley Burley
Miguel Canto
Michael Carbajal
Jimmy Carter
Marcel Cerdan
Antonio Cervantes
Bobby Chacon
Jeff Chandler
Ezzard Charles
Curtis Cokes
Billy Conn
Pipino Cuevas -
Flash Elorde
Jeff Fenech
George Foreman
Bob Foster
Joe Frazier
Gene Fullmer
Khaosai Galaxy
Victor Galindez
Kid Gavilan
Joey Giardello
Wilfredo Gomez
Humberto Gonzalez
Billy Graham
Rocky Graziano
Emile Griffith
Marvin Hagler
Fighting Harada
Tom Heeney
Beau Jack
Lew Jenkins
Eder Jofre
Ingemar Johansson -
Harold Johnson
Ismael Laguna
Jake LaMotta
Sugar Ray Leonard
Sonny Liston
Nicolino Locche
Duilio Loi
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Joey Maxim
Mike McCallum
Barry McGuigan -
Bob Montgomery
Carlos Monzon
Archie Moore
Jose Napoles
Azumah Nelson
Terry Norris
Ken Norton
Ruben Olivares
Bobo Olson
Carlos Ortiz
Manuel Ortiz
Carlos Palomino
László Papp
Willie Pastrano
Floyd Patterson
Eusebio Pedroza
Willie Pep
Pascual Pérez
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Sugar Ramos
Luis Rodriguez
Sugar Ray Robinson
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Sandy Saddler
Vicente Saldivar
Salvador Sanchez
Max Schmeling
Michael Spinks
Dick Tiger
Jose Torres
Randy Turpin
Jersey Joe Walcott
Ike Williams (boxer)
Chalky Wright
Tony Zale
Daniel Zaragoza -
Carlos Zarate
Fritzie Zivic
the ones with the - should go if gatti cant enter it
A thats because marcus rhodes is a punching bag...he needs the money he'll fight anybody to get a check
B ... answer my question...when he got tested and it came back negative the first time 6 or 7 years ago that there should have been it for him to fight agian .. why wait untill now to say hes totally clean and been that way for almost a decade
has anyone fought her?
christy martin was suposed to destroy her but yeah
then vonda ward was suposed to crush her...but yeah
then the one punch wonder ann wolfe is now suposed to kil her ...but yeah
everyones suposed to beat her right? and really how many live bodys we got floatin around womens boxing