Call it what you want. the notion that pac refused the tests cause he felt it was insulting is BS. He went from being scared of needles to ....uh, oh yeah, i'm not doing it cause he disrespected me by even mentioning it. It's usually the guys with the virulent outrage that are guilty. he's gonna originally refuse a fight cause he felt disrespected? If that was the case, he should've definitely pulled out of the margo fight. Don't come at me with that there's a first time for everything mess either. Not when we've had over a hundred years of boxing. not with the same variables other fighters have.
A) roach-pacs not his first pupil so it can't be that his coaching style is the secret.
B)pac-never in history has someone moved up so much in weight and retained his speed, and is exponentially more powerful. And no one has accused him of having had a huge boxing brain at any time in his career.
C)conditioning-it can't be that his body just accepts conditioning that much better than everyone else's, or that his conditioning advisors just know something everyone else hasn't figured out all these years.
Now i know pac's fans will chalk this up to his greatness and not even attempt to give a valid explanation. case in point, watched the fight at my filipino buddies house. All eight of them were like,"dude, he's just great. i don't know why. maybe he was just born with it". That's an explanation for why tenacious d is great, not an athlete in a sport that's been around forever. They'll also mask that lack of logic by calling names and insulting. As for me, i kind of have to subscribe to the notion that maybe the mayweathers were just the first to be brave enough to say it out loud, but they definitely weren't the first to think it. And personally, i don't think it matters if they brought it up cause they were scared or not. maybe they should be if it's true. He still needed to answer that question by submitting in the beginning. cause to me, it doesn't even matter now that he agrees to them darn near a year later. that's if he has cause we still don't know what was in the contract as fans. bob says something and folks run with it and automatically turn it into fact. The fact remains that i'm not buying into the emporer's new clothes trick of if you need an explanation, you're just dumb or a flomo.
i think b-hop has a point. although he might've added a little uncalled for zeal. I think he was trying to quell the arguments on two different points. A) the fact that they will not match manny with a "boxer" (consequently, those that boxed him clearly showed why). and also that out of all races in boxing, black fighters (champions especially) get the most heat, or rather don't get as much due as their counterparts. think about black champions. so called "boxing" champions especially.
floyd-obviously hated, even though he's a great boxer.
roy jjr.- hated on big time, even when he cleared his division, and he was a great boxer
Hopkins-hated on terribly his whole career. never truly accepted. not necessarily a boxer.
Leonard-hated on big time while he was a champion. scared, conceited, etc...boxer
Ali - people want to remember him as america's greatest fighter, but while he was boxing he was hated by the bulk of america (you know who you are).
We could build a list a thousand miles long of all the fights that should've been made for every boxer in boxing.
Some are too young to remember the way these guys were treated while they were champions. So, does hopkins have a point? definitely when it comes to pac having not faced a "boxer". The other question of whether black boxers are shunned......sad to say, he may.
yeah, i like how you never add the fact that marg was a nobody with no notable wins on his record, AND floyd was chasing (and secured) a zillion dollar fight with oscar instead. You definitely forget that whenever asked by anyone after his (cotto) fights, we were always told that he would be ready in 2 or 3 fights. or, i'll let my promoter handle that, i just fight.
I'm just glad pac has had a few fights at this weight so no one can cry if floyd beats him at 147. I think history will definitely look kindly on pac, but we will always be asking why he doesn't have a single "boxer" on his record. The first person to box him, beat him. the second person arguably won both of their fights. and neither of them were or are anywhere near him (pac) speedwise. i'm interested to see how he would handle an intelligent boxer with a decent amount of speed. sadly, i'd even settle for mosley. just to see how much of a chance someone with speed has against him.