Lewis is way too smart to ever consider making a comeback and got out at just the right time to mantain his legacy as an all time great.
Vitali is able to still pull it off at 37 because of his style and the fact he doesnt over exert himself in fights.
if your talking in terms of scale to size then you`d have to say countrys like puerto rico and england.
Always wondered about what could of been if cubans had of been allowed to turn proffesional more often!!
excellent to hear
audley got robbed of his dream by a cheating haye and a cheating ref
he should demand either a FAIR rematch or a shot at the klitschko brothers
read through your posts again,your a retard who has no clue about boxing,youve got froch in your top 5 of all time,of coures you think he won,froch said he was going there for the knockout and got beat by 3-4 clear rounds,end off,next fight AA knocks himout
its my personal list of my top faves of all time, where the hell does it say "p4p top 5 all time rankings"
twat
get a life cunt,kessler beat him fair and square,116-112 to kessler,you giving froch the 1st 4 rounds says it all-cunt
Big words for a little man, do you kiss your boyfriend with that mouth?:gay:
black-ink - mate i always prefer to not listen to the commentary when scoring a contest, i had froch a clear winner with sauerland and showtime obviously conspiring against him to set up this blatant injustice
pacquaio gets destroyed by mayweather? your logic being
* Pacquiao`s a 7weight world champion, mayweather is a 5weight champ
* Pacquiao has 50 wins under his belt, floyd 41
* Pacquiao beat marquez in his own weight class, floyd had to do it at 147
* Pacquiao smashed ODLH inside 8, mayweather drew with him
* Pacquiao annihilated hatton, mayweather had to rely on the ref to cheat to win the fight
* Pacquiao took the cotto fight and beat the hell out of him, floyd ducked cotto for years
Again im fascinated to here how exactly pac gets destroyed by mayweather
John Ruiz is the top fighter of all time? Great stuff
Have never claimed ruiz is the best fighter of all time
I have him, ali and louis tied as the greatest heavyweights that ever lived but we will never know who was the best of the 3 because they are all from different generations.
PS:For those wishing to hear more of my fantastic "john ruiz awareness" ive a ton of old vids, links etc to back up my claim that he is the greatest heavyweight of our generation
it was a slip in the 5th round watch the replay , froch didnt land only air!!
As blatant a knockdown as you can get
It was the exact same incident that floored abraham against dirrell and yet that got scored a knockdown, why??
because sauerland and showtime are conspiring against carl froch who we all know is the best super middleweight in the world right now
Pac was bloodied by JMM, his knee's buckled as well. He's also been KO'd twice, and take an ass whoopin in 05. :boxing:
pacs a different fighter now
He beat ODLH, Hatton, Cotto and clottey with a far superior skill range than what he possessed against JMM
round 8 - froch is back. The round is timid but froch is once again being able to land those solid rights that make him such the great champion that he is (was). Kessler isnt giving an inch and froch is taking advantage of the fact that mikkel is so eager to impress infront of the eager crowd willing him onto victory. I cant give you a hell of a lot of information as to whats going down in the ring at the moment because for anyone whos seen the fight that`ll be able to clearly tell you that theres not much (not frochs fault, watch froch-pascal if you want to watch a real fight). All of a sudden kessler lands with a huge right hand and wobbles froch, the commentators speak as if the fight is hanging by a thread yet froch seems bothered not one bit, what a chin this man has. At this point im convinced that froch is back in his groove and that the wbc super middleweight championship of the world will be coming back to britain on the very same day that west ham secure survival from the dreaded drop and thats a cue for my great mate graham to go back to his fridge and gety me another cold one (i dont normally drink throughout fights quite so much as i am on this occasion but thinking the fight wouldnt start until the wee hours of the next morning i kept myself sober throughout the evening hence to rush to knock back as many as i could when i got the text that it actually started at 9pm)
end of round 8:
froch: 10
kessler: 9 = 78-73 froch
round 9 - The realisation in that not a hell of a lot is going to come of this fight other than a lame ass points decison just like frochs last fight against dirrell (not frochs fault on both occasions just his lousy opponents). Froch wins the first part of the round with again supreme counter punching and that awesome reach that allows him to get through his opponents defence. Kessler comes on towards the end of the round picking off froch counters with sharp rights before froch wises up and makes it out of the round without much fuss. The crowd is going wild but its kinda hard to wonder why really. Me and graham then talk about great fights of yesteryear like vasquez-marquez because israels next fight is constantly being advertised on primetime. I then ask graham if its wise for me to post a fight review in a fantana esque fashion but inadvertedly, me and fantana cant help being one and alike we both have the same opinions on everything and having not read his entire book i still have absoloutely no idea where girls pee from
end of round 9:
froch: 10
kessler: 9 = 88-82 froch
round 10 - whys is kessler doing nothing? froch clearly has the beatdown on him and apart from the last 30 seconds kessler seems as if he wants no part of froch and is convinced that the hometown crowd will give him the edge with the fans. Im not not saying that froch is doing a hell of a lot here quite the contrary. He is working away but to very little effect and the fight is proving one big anti climax. Kessler as already mentions gets going with towards the end of the round but its just too little to late and froch has more than done enough to edge another 50/50 round.
end of round 10:
froch: 10
kessler: 9 = 98-91 froch
round 11 - now kess is in his groove, its almost as if someone has told him to wake up and smell the bacon. Huge round for the dane (who is also half english i might add). Froch seems almost as if he had only been told it was 10rounder and going through the motions. All the effort is coming from kessler here and immidiately i turn to my great mate graham and begin pondering if a potential screw job could be on the cards here and whether kim kardashian is ever able to lie on her back what with having such a massive ass.
end of round 11:
froch: 9
kessler: 10 = 107-101 froch
round 12 - OMG one of the best rounds you will see in 2010, all of a sudden a very dull boxing contest from absoloutely nowhere broke out into a fight. Both men desperate for the final round froch being because he is away from home and kessler because he is clearly miles behind on the cards. A back and forth slug fest that sees kessler owning the cobra for the 1st 2minutes of the round but carl coming back from nowhere to get back into it. Some beautiful lefts from carl recipicated from kessler with his usual big rights. A great great round that leaves you wishing the fight had started that way rather than ended like it.
end of the fight:
froch: 9
kessler: 10 = 116-111 froch
fantasic display from carl. To go all the way to denmark the very homeland of the favourite to win the fight and actually beat him is nothing short of miraculous. Froch was simply too quick and rangey for his opponent all night and throughully deserved his hard fought win. Kessler seems as if he is mocking his opponent by attempting to convince the home fans he has won the fight when clearly he, his team and even the fans know its a unanimous froch win coming his way.
Jimmy lennon Jr reads the results, 115-113, 116-112, 117-111.........great scoring someone had it exactly as i had with giving froch 8 of the 12 rounds although for some very strange reason not any of the 3judges have deducted a point from kessler for the knockdown (see how the conspiracy theory is playing out) its no bother froch retains the titles and i get to humiliate those 2 losers ICB and nameless for the fortnight.
jimmy lennon reads out the result....
"and the winner and the NEW WBC super middleweight champion of the world "
At this point me and my mate turn to eachother both believing we have just heard jimmy lennon Jr accidently announce the wrong fighters name and both give a nervy small chuckley s****** to each other. Nothing happens for a good 5-6 seconds, kessler is placed with the belt around his waist and i realise that the biggest farce since appointing cortez ref for the hatton-floyd fight had taken place and that carl froch had actually been mugged in broad daylight.
I wont tell you what took place from that moment onwards as minors may be reading this (not arthur scargill type minors but frankie muniz the kid from malcolm in the middle types). Suffice to say profanitys were uttered and beer was drunk. I type this angrily not just at the fact a fellow countrymen has been robbed but boxing in general has once again had to suffer a disgraceful outcome which will no doubt tarnish this great sport.
I am not fantana but this has been a pleasurable yet emotional read and i urge all my great great fans (i am the most well respected and beloved poster on the site) to rise above this injustice and let the authoritys that be know that this simply will not stand in our great sport
carl froch WBC super middleweight champion of the world
i like margs alot, but what the f**k, whos he gonna fight now, f**kin berto lol. i dont wanna hear margs talk any s**t till he at least accepts a fight with someone that is at least a top 5 ww:firedevil
Berto would tear him a new one
If Ricky doesnt KO PM he really should just consider packing it in.
I dont buy the whole cotto couldnt do it argument.
Malignaggi is ready to be taken and hatton should have enough to get him out of there within 7-8
Regrettably, I haven't seen much of Froch except on highlights. I do know one thing, the man can talk. I wouldn't be suprised if after his fighting career he takes a job ring side. He seems to be very knowledgable about the sport. He knows much about current and former fighters, from all weight classes.
I do know, he won't rule 168. Kessler will beat him when/if they fight. I also don't know if he would get past Bute, Andrade, and if he gets his wish to fight Taylor at MSG, he may lose.
Pascal is a slick boxer who has been transplanted to the fighting city of Montreal. He has power in his right hand, moves his head well and is pretty good on the defensive side. I would like to see the "killer" side of Pascal more. He just seems like a nice dude, I want him to have a controlled anger in the ring.
Good fight for both fighters to take at this point in their career's. Someone's
"0" has to go. I'm glad to see that aren't ducking eachother.
Does anyone know if this fight will be televised in the States? A tragedy if not.
He fights like he talks ringside
Very intelligent boxer with no real attribute in terms of power, speed etc
But he`s very effective at fighting in small spells and is able to win rounds just through effectiveness.
Id give him every chance of holding onto a world title for a good few years. Though i suspect he`ll never quite have the natural talent of a calzaghe to ever dominate a division
Why am i so excited over angulo-Mayorga
Mayorga should now be on the scrap heap of boxing but because he is so fun to watch and unpredictable he`s always gonna be in and around the main scene.
If angulo wants to be sensible he should take him in 6/7, if however he gets drawn into a war ala:vernon forrest im gonna plump for a late mayorga KO