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This is pure shit. Morales won't box, Cortez is incompetent, Pac won't be allowed to win, and the dog ate your homework, right? nope, i guess the dog ate your brains out that you can hardly understand what you're reading. its says Morales MAY NOT box not WON'T box. have you seen any word like incompetent in that post? and worse, who said Pac wont be allowed to win? it should be interpreted as... "he may if he KO EM." now i think you reacted like shit by posting shit dont you think? :D

yeah he would eat my children i mean 10mil is 10 mil I wouldent be dead id be ko'd but not dead your children will be eaten? now that's more than boxing. but at least you have $10M for your hospital bills, medicine, and worse a lifetime theraphy. i wonder if $10M will be enough to revive you. honestly, i have no idea.. LOL! :D

Or, some of us have been 'there' before, and know there's little point..maybe thats it?? Why , when others disagree with you, it's "whining", but youre not whining when you say that Erik may fighht dirty, and Pac may be robbed, etc.?? You cant have it both ways Evo. If youre gonna post that all of that is a possibility, then we can post in the opposite without it being 'whining'. Maybe you wanna read your post again and tell me its not so. i could have taken your post otherwise if its expressed as an oppinion based on the topic at hand. but evidently, your post was more of a comment to the one who posts and not on the topic. that made people like you whining, dont you think?

Haha well actually man, I'm just basing this off recent interviews that went around. Heck we even got Manny on video saying out of his mouth that he believes Morales has slowed down. If he truely believes this in his mind, it might be an over confidence that will work against him if he thinks he will be dealing with a slow target which Barrera seemed to have infront of him in their 3rd fight. Morales on the other hand, in interviews helabels Manny as a simple 1 dimensional fighter that can't adapt when the situation changes. While I haven't seen this enough in Manny fights to really believe it, his trouble with Marquez is clearly what Morales was talking about. So this will be exciting non the less :D BTW-I just saw the commerical on USA! The only other times were on the YES Network which is sports related. Having it even on channel USA was really cool. I hope it does really well on PPV sales because both fighters deserve to be payed big. :boxing: thought its may seem that way through interviews, i could say its part of the mental war trying to intimidate the other by seeding it to their heads. but the way a fighter fights in the ring, you can somehow tell how they realy think. and i do think they both give each other a great deal of respect that one cant simply under estimate the other. that's why they'll be giving their best come fight night. :)

Great analysis, but rather too simplistic I think. Each of the two knows he is facing not just an ordinary opponent but one of the best P4P warriors of today. So both camps will not be making any such assumption or underestimation but rather prepare for the worst and lots of surprises. I mean I'm sure Team Pac is preparing not for a slow or a slowed-down Morales, but for a very intelligent and durable opponent that he is. In the same manner, I'm sure Morales himself is not preparing for a one-dimensional opponent, but for a Pacman who has developed or added more powerful weapons in his arsenal. This could well be the fight of their lives or careers. So they can never afford to leave anything to chance. Yes, this will make for one of the greatest fight of all time! :boxing: i'd even go for this one. :D

Wake up! Who has dropped Morales? Just because he dropped barrera and JMM dont mean the same shits going to happen to Morales. this is why this fight is gonna be exciting. coz Morales has never faught a fighter as powerful and as quick as Pacman. and Pacman never faught a fighter as durable as Morlaes. but if you'll ask me which will prevail, speed and power or durability? i think its speed and power that has the edge.

I didnt say efficient fighters, i said efficient punches. Marquez stands straight up more than Morales and it limits the variety of punches he is able to throw. You stand straight straight up and throw an uppercut, then stand like Morales, and throw one, big difference in the punching power (efficiency) of the punch. Which is why you see Morales throwing more uppercuts, hooks and shots to the body from a greater assortment of angles than you see Marquez. The range of different punches, as you put it favors Morales considerably over Marquez. And it will give Morales more openings to punish Pacquiao for any mistakes he makes. the problem of JMM's opponents is before they can give their combos, JMM either would hit them first with combos or block their 1st or 2nd throw so he could do his quick power combinations nutralizes his opponent's combinations. and i dont see in EM the ability to smother that.

Morales is a more complete fighter than Marquez...Marquez can't fight going forward (take the lead) as well as Erik and is not nearly as versatile as Erik. Erik can box and set his opponent up , he can brawl, or he sit back and counterpunch when he wants to. Erik has hurt Barrera many times in their three fights. He had Barrera hurt 3-4 times down the stretch of their third fight...and who can forget that 5th round of their first fight. He just could never quite put him down or away. i dont think so. EM may know how to counter and he may have power and accuracy but he doesnt have the speed and patience of JMM. this is why i consider JMM as a more dangerous fighter than EM.

if any of you realy do think that am wrong. then post your reeasons why you think any of what i said is IMPOSSIBLE to happen in the Pac-EM fight. prove me that it is impossible. i dont understand what's to react with the word "POSSIBILITY."

yeah he is he never does shit but throws the left. STOP COMPARING THESE FIGHTS MORALES IS NOT BARRERA AND NOT JMM OK different fighters AND PACMAN IS ONE DIMENSIONAL he has yet to prove the he is not yet to prove? i thought i heared that before his fight against MAB , and another before JMM, and now am hearing this again before EM. Pac has proven himself long before he faught JMM through the personality of the top P4P of the featherwight, legendary Barrera by KO, and has further proven it by decking JMM 3x in the first round and fight the rest of the match till 12 rounds half partially handicaped. Morales is not a measuring tool to prove Pac's worthiness. Morales is just another great fighter that Manny can use to further elevate his greatness and vice versa.

JMM is the best counterpuncher right now,I still think morales and barrera are chickens for not fighting him, I give pacman props for being brave enough to step up to the plate. that makes Pacman so different above all these 3M's.

Thank you. All we need is a nice, somewhat clearer explanation of what you actually intend to say. It's often hard to communicate with you because IMO you write a bunch of stuff without thinking of how your message will be perceived by others. You WERE the, "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA" guy not so long ago. All I have to say is THINK before you post, you may hear back from people who ill-receive your post if you don't. But maybe you don't care I dunno. As for Morales using dirty tactics...well of course he's capable of fouling Manny, but Manny is also capable of fouling Morales. Basically what you did in your original post was simply speculate. But you are throwing out random situations without evidence. And that "Morales used elbows against Chi" example is tired and overexaggerated. You have to be insanely paranoid to believe that the judges were out get Manny in the Marquez fight or that they'll wrong him on March 19th. You have an opinion and that's fine. But you are spewing out random shit without being objective. You are generalizing when you say, "Morales' countrymen used dirty tactics when they were in trouble (JMM, Barrera) so why is it impossible for Morales to do so?" Not every Mexican fighter is the same...sure its possible for Morales to foul Pacquiao, but no more than the converse. Give Morales a fair shake and people will respect your opinion more. That entire last sentence you typed was just part of the bullshit that makes it hard for people to communicate with you. That, "I hope this is reachable blah blah blah" BS makes that entire quality post you just made worthless. I never insulted your intelligence directly, although I could have. I stated that your english was not very good...it was hard for me to understand because some of the wording looked like a person with a severe case of dyslexia wrote it. I understand that you are a pretty intelligent guy when not discussing certain aspects of Pacquiao. I guess i'll just have to take what you say at face value from now on and not read into your posts for deeper meaning. :cool: oh, i can see that you havent got it over with with the "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA," thing. i thought i have cleared that before already. but since i can see that you're the type who demands clearer explanation, it'll be no prblem for me to take time for it. ok, now i want you to pay attention very carefuly and try not to misinterpret this. the reason why i and some Pac fans said such things is simply to make noise hoping it would reach the fighters so that they'll insist on proving themselves (which EM had just done) that the Pac fans we're wrong, and he's not such kind of fighter. and i believe it was effective dont you think? EM was suppose to be moving up in weight atfer his fight with MAB as he promised. but look where he is now. and you can also see that it was being effective when EM always tried to tell the media men that he wants Pacman thus showing that he aint scared of him and he aint avoiding him, coz he was facing MAB. another reason why such comment was made is to also show how fans would tend to react or think when promoters promises a fight with Pacman then suddenly leaves him out in the cold by taking other fight than what was agreed by principle (i hope you're updated with that case). this is how fans can show power, by making themselves heared. you create issues that will put pressure on the concerned party. but guys like you have taken it seriously and too shallow that it seem to haunt you even in your sleep. well, am sorry for that. i can understand that not all can dig the obvious reasons behind such comments. maybe i should be the one saying THINK or ASK (politely) before reacting. but i do hope its clear on you now. as for EM-Pac fouling, that's exactly what i meant. but why i said it'll be EM? simple, fighters like them usually use this only when they can see that fighting their opponent fairly is not enough to distract him. again, IMO it might be EM who'll be on that part. and you can say that its gonna be Pac if you do think that Pac will be out hassled (which i doubt). its just an oppinion, no big deal. and its not just speculation, how can you say that when you actually agreed to me that EM himself is capable of doing it? dont you think you contradicted your own accusation? with regards to being paranoid on Pac being wronged on March 19. how could you say that? didnt i just made it clear on the other post why i thought so? again, if you realy know boxing, you know that these happened many times and it happened to Pacman when he faught JMM and it was in MGM Grand Las Vegas and worse, its both under Bob Arum's influence. its business my friend. a business man like Arum will do ANYTHING and i mean ANYTHING to win. that is ofcourse if Pac fails to KO EM. now again let me ask you is it not possible to happen? if you'd believe that it could, how then can you say am being paranoid of that? in these case you seemed to be the one spewing out random shit without being objective. about generalizing Morales' countrymen using dirty tactics when they were in trouble, am just trying to narrow it down to the persons (JMM and MAB) involved with Pacman. but if you're going to carefuly understand it, i think again i have made it clear that all fighters are capable of doing so but that doesnt meant am not giving EM a fair shake. again, you're accusing me of how you think it is. that's just too shallow. as for some people having trouble communicating with me by insulting their intelligence. maybe wanna take another glance read your last part of your post and maybe you wanna look into the mirror and say it again to me. besides, if you'll look back on the posts in this thread, you'll see who started giving oppinions and who started talking bullshit! now if you want iit to be cool just say it cool and quit using terms that wont justify your intention of getting cool. COOL! :D

Hey, they're your words not mine. Seems you don't know what you say from one post to the next. Your words do, in fact, suggest that Cortez is incompetent. How else could he make those "bad calls" after reffing so many Championship fights? Also, it was you who asked "will they allow him (Pac) to win w/o a KO?". That's pretty obvious you think that Pac might not be ALLOWED to win. You said it, not me. And, if you think I "reacted like shit by posting shit", that's OK. At least I have a coherent thought from time to time and don't contradict myself with every second post. Also, I figure a truly "shit" post is one that doesn't make sense ... like your response to my post. sorry man but i thought i have carefully explained everything about that same predicament of yours. i dont think i can explain it even further to people of such level of intellect like you have. otherwise we'll be going in circles about this matter. anyway, thanks for sharing your observation regarding my post.

:boxing: One thing I wonder is how Pac will deal with Morales right hand since he has always been open to it. I think Roach will drill that into him and he will neutrilize alot of Morales and im sure Morales will do the same with Pacs left. I see one major factor in this fight and that is speed and Pacs fast starting pace and Morales slow pace. I doubt he can change that now and when Pac comes at him full speed in round 1 i think Morales will throw stategy out the window. Its gonna be a war i cant wait. ;) i think Manny's Mortar 101 that he used and KO'ed Fhasan 3K Battery is tailor maid for right handed fighters. once the opponent's right hand attacks, it will fire. and you can see that even thought the opponent is guarding his right chin, this style can go deep from below. and its hard to stop from Pacquiao because of his quicknes. you'll never know if he'll be throwing a left straight or left uppercut or right jab/cross. damn, imagine if he'll be adding more like the "Manila Ice." All of it are devastating.

Honestly dude, I criticized Pac Man jus as u are doing...I jus knew Barrera would dismantle him inside of 5 rounds "Too aggressive, too offensive, no defense" i said about Pac Man, then about a 30 minutes after the first bell im proven wrong.......So when I heard about his fight against Marquez (who i felt is more naturally a better boxer than Barrera) I said "well, he's gonna naturally do what Barrera should have done, being so that he's been doing that his whole career and didnt recently make the transition"...then after that first round i was silenced......................Morales no doubt is the truth, but he neither offensively or defensively is that much more diffrent than the 2 guys who Pacquaio put thru hell, and yes Morales fights well hurt but just as u say Morales turns on that 2nd gear when he is hurt, Pac Man turns on his 2nd gear when he gets u hurt. PS: When a guy knocks out a p4p champion and gives anotha one hell for a full 12 rounds....he usually isnt 1-Dimensional. very well said. though i respect Morales' effectivenes, Pac is no Superman but deffinitely an extra ordinary fighter. he's still young and can still learn a lot more. and everytime he learns something new, he just become more and more dangerous.

LETS GET IT ON!!! oh yeah baby! this is thrilling me! yeeeehaaaah!!! the fight is near and i cant wait to see what surprises these fighters have for us to see. i jsut hope the deserving fighter wins this fight and not be affected by boxing politics. otherwise, its gonna be a very memorrable fight. :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

funny. many had reacted but none can explain their side how its not possible that EM's capable of using some dirty tactics. maybe you all realized that its part of the sport and every fighter is capable of using it specially if the situation calls for it. MAB did some. does that mean MAB has become a legend coz he fight dirty? JMM did it. does it mean he holds two titles coz he plays dirty? do they always do it? i guess not. but one thing is certain. they all did it to Pacquiao. and i dont see it impossible for Erik to do so if he needs to. its all part of the game. but it is also the job of the referee to watch these. so quit wining ok? specially if you cant realy defend your wining...

lol how can you have no doubts?!?!?! lol It's Erik Fucking MORALES :eek: Elpacman, for one thing, I don't think Erik would start strong. I've yet to see him do that in the past, so why would Pac be any different from anyone else he faced. I believe he likes to see what the other guy has too offer before unleashing his own. I mean unless his plan is to take Manny out early (I highly doubt that) he'll size him up like everyone else he beat. In anycase, it really depends on the guy who can make adjustments to the other. Common sense screams Morales, but who knows. Not even barrera who's neutralized Naz was able to do it. Maybe with range? Ahhh I cna't wait to see the fight :D i thought i heared those remarks before like "its Marco Antonio the Fuckin' Barrera!" but no ofense bro, you're asking why would Pac be any diffrent from anyone else EM faced. i think its obvious why in this match Pac's the favorite. i dont have to restate everything that had already been posted in this site why it is so. but dont get me wrong when i said that "i have no doubt that Manny will win." just coz i said that, doesnt mean its gonna be a walk in the park for Pac. if you have read my post from the other thread, i have guessed that it'l be a late round stopage by Manny because Em is a durable fighter and Pac needs to work hard on the wear and tear to achieve that. regarding adjustments and common sense, if you do know Morales, you'd also know that he tends to brawl and lose his strategy everytime he gets tagged despite his corner strictly telling him to box. :D

defend my reason? What are you talking about? All I said was that if you could post all those possibilities and it not be whining, then others could post a different opinion and it also not be whining. Is there some dictionary that translates your meaning and/or words? Geeze...a person really could use one! wow! you just forgot the root of all this huh? its funny you suddenly got memory deficiency. ok fine, you win whatever you say. :rolleyes:

some things i can guarantee is EM may not box but would definitely be using dirty tactics (like MAB and JMM did) and will intintly watching more on the best timing for his uppercut. but Pac is gonna use his speed to land his gloves first before EM could make his move. we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman or try to give EM more favor. i wouldnt be surprised if it happens. specially at MGM. i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO? :boxing:

agapito sanchez is dirty. or could be that trinidad also is dirty for using those elbows or even hopkins for holding and hitting. but i don't think erik morales is a dirty fighter. i like him as a fighter because he really comes to the ring ready to fight, making sure that the fans get what they truly deserve. i can even call mr morales as a very gentleman in the ring (if its ok and if there's a term for that in boxing). this fight between pacman and morales is a classic fight between two warriors of equal caliber that's why the title "COMING WITH EVERYTHING" is so appropriate for this fight. let's just wait for this fight and reserve your opinions later, ok? im a pac fan and i like him to win, but if it doesn't happen, i'll just accept it and i'll say ok.. this is just another loss, pac is still young and could still win a belt and becomes a champion. peace to all the boxing fans out here. nobody is saying he's a dirty fighter. but for every fighter, it is not impossible to use some. its part of the sport. can you call MAB a dirty fighter? i dont think so but he sure uses some if he thinks he needs to like when he frustratedly used headbutt on Manny and when he threw a punch during the break and when he steps on Manny's foot in the first round thus making him benifited for a 10-8 roun. this is the same case with JMM. would you call JMM a dirty fighter? i dont think so. but JMM definitely used a lot of low blow against Manny. why do you think they'r doing this? this is one of the many tactics that a fighter can go for to distract his opponent and lose concentration particulaly their defenses. so dont think that when one says a fighter might use dirty tactics doesnt mean he always does. ASSUMING EM is obviously being pumeled by Manny in the early rounds and EM realized how tough his opponent is and that his style is not being effetive and there's still a long way to go. do you think its impossible for him to use some dirty tactics to regain composure? i strongly doubt it. :boxing:

Honestly...if you are going to post this kind of BS then just don't post at all. Tell me when exactly Morales has been known to get overly dirty in his fights? Please...I'd like each fight and each round where he directly used dirty tactics. Why would Cortez favor Morales? Because you say so? Or is it because Cortez has bad blood with Manny and has a history of bias in his past :rolleyes: Your conspiracy theories (will THEY let Pac win without a KO) make YOU sound as if you have little faith in your fighter to go the distance. Evos it will all be okay...no one is out to get Pacquiao. If anything, if there are extremely close rounds, those rounds will probably go to Pacquiao because he is the flashier fighter of the two. In the mean time, stop making excuses before the fight. :cool: common man! quit being a hippocrite. you know that these factors can anytime play a major role in boxing. if you want to know the reason why it may happen, then i'll give you the answer..."BUSINESS, SIMPLY BUSINES!" so quit telling people what to post or not to post coz you're not that good poster yourself if that's how you see yourself. regarding EM, using dirty tactics. can you realy read? tell me exactly where in my post did i said that EM get OVERLY dirty? but maybe you'd agree that he did used some for a few times. havent you seen him used some? maybe you wanna see how he used elbows and shoulders when he fought Chi. these are all part of the sport man. common! wake up and get out of wonderland! :boxing:

when has moralles been dirty, and when were barrera and marquez dirty. This is pointless propaganda, nothing makes morales a favorite over pacqiao infront of the judges at MGM. oh i can see you havent seen Barrera's fight against Manny when he steped on his right foot and Manny was called a KD, MAB was KD in the 6th round and he acted like it was a slip by telling it to the referee, he was also warned for using an intentional headbutt, and had a point deducted from him for hitting Manny during the break. while Marquez was called only 3x for low blows but in the video you could see that he unleashed atleast 6 lowblows excluding an elbow. if these doesnt seem dirty tactics to you, it'll be no problem with me. all am sayin' is any fighter could do this like what MAB and JMM did when they were in trouble. so, its still yet to see for Morales. what would Morales do when he see himself being out hustled?...

He ain't gonna bumrush Morales. You can't take out Morales that early. No WAY! Roach and Manny knows that and thast why their fight plan is for a full 12 rounds A couple of theories why he exploded against JMM. Here's mine: To be honest, I don't think you try to take out a 2-belt champion in the 1st round. What I DID see is Marquez landing a straight right down the pipe that Pac probably felt. Right after that he unleashes the power left to give back as good as he took...except Marquez went down. So he tries to take him out off teh first round, landing consistantly with the straight left and just kept dropping Marquez. His instincts took over and he TRIED to make it a short night. Another theory from a poster (I forget who) is that Roach knew that Marquez has teh best style against Manny and the plan was to take him out early. Morales would get up easy. But one thing I'll tell you, if ever he gets dropped. He'll throw away the fight plan and will unload. Then you see a war. Pac needs controlled agression, Morales has the tools to take him out should he come in too carelessly. Morales can wheather the strom if he keeps Pac at range but if Pac gets inside, his faster fists would mash up Morales' face like turkey stuffing. you may be right when you said EM's not that easy to finish in the early rounds. but i strongly believe that Roach and Pac are planning to bring everything they can in the early rounds coz this si one of Em's weaknesses. Em is slow in the early rounds. so i dont see it impossible for EM to drop or be KO'ed in the early rounds (though i hardly think so) if Manny will be giving his best immediately.

i think youll find he IS a tough tomato can mexican http://www.boxingscene.com/sn1gger/tomatocanlegend.jpg THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN A CLASSIC AND WAY TOO MUCH TO QUOTE ..THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS GUYS LOL! man that's funny! thanks to funny guys like you. you give life to this site. LOL! :D

Key words NO DOUBT. That ain't realistic. Simple as that. But no beefs man, bygons be bygons :boxing: no problem bro. as long as things wont be taken personally, everything's gonna be fine. but regarding the NO DOUBT, i just honestly think IMO, its gonna be Pacman based on style NO DOUBT. its realistic enough for me (IMO). i've seen enough of EM's fights and i'd rather think that JMM has the greater threat for Manny than EM. though we can say EM and MAB are different, i can tell that they have a lot of similarities when throwing their combinations. but MAB IMO has the better deffense than EM. but i am not disregarding the fact that anything can happen in a fight between Pac and EM. even an easy opponent can win a KO with Pacman if we're taking that principle. but then again, those were just my oppinions. no big deal. :)

I'm a big Pac fan. I saw practically all of his fights multiple times. I have his 2 documentaries vcds. I check his site everyday for news. But I'm also REALISTIC. Bro you're talking like Morales don't have chance, and "based on styles" he'll get beat by Pac. Your talking like it's a sure thing. I don't think you know Morales or have seen him enough to understand the magnitude of the threat he poses in the ring.... cmon man, did i say anything about EM not getting any chance? how come you guys are so quick in putting words into others' mouth? again, i am saying these in my oppinion based on tactics and not by chances and i believe that am entitled for it. if you dont want it, fine. jsut dont take it personally. god, whats with you guys?

Now this fight puzzles me, Before I would have picked Morales easy becuz of his toughness and Pacquaio's the more vulnerable fighter....but Pacquaio has hurt Barrera (something Morales failed to do) and also gave Marquez (who i think is even more put togetha than Barrera and Morales) hell......wouldnt be surprised of Pacquaio stops Morales. now that's how i and many others see it too.

correct, styles make fights....but who for the last 5 years have people been saying are the mirror images of each other? Barrera and Morales....who for the last 5 years have pretty much equaled each other in every aspect of the word? Barrera and Morales..........and when i compared Pac Man's performance against Barrera, i was making the point that Pac Man has brought the most disciplined of boxers in the division to the canvas, hard to believe he cant/wont do the same to Morales. plus you could also consider Manny's consistency in knocking his opponents down and 70% KO record. i dont think EM's gonna be an excemption to that when Manny lands his devastating left straight/uppercut.

lol he floored marquez 3 times and dident win. yeah i agree. this is why outside factors like boxing politics is considered as a big factor in every match. specially at MGM Grand Las Vegas and with Bob Arum involved. that is when a deserving fighter does not get what he deserves that makes it so sad in this sport.