That's what they all say until they get brutally knocked out. At that age anything can happen, you can get old the night before the match and become canon fodder. You will try to move your legs then discover the legs ain't there anymore, try to move your head then notice you can't get out of the way. Boxers have huge egos and most need to be knocked out to understand they are no longer the same. Had Hopkins not been kayod he would still be fighting.
This is what I was thinking. How many times did Roy Jones say this. I'm sure he "feels" faster and stronger but he isn't.
That happenns to black boxers, Mexicans have good chins. Look at Whitaker who was known for not gwtting hit much, and look at JC Chavez....the latter can talk, the other one not.
Um pernell talks the exact same way he always talked.
Leonard also basically fought like 5 fights in 10 years included huge layoffs (years at a time) and a ton of coke. You don’t mention that you just use age as the exact same for everyone to suit nutthugging views.
There’s been tons of fighters with massive successes past the age of 35 it’s not just Ali and Mayweather.
Oh you know who was pretty good past 35? Even ko' do the #1 ranked Welterweight? Shane Mosley. Oh but wait, he was past his prime since he lost to Mayweather in his next fight. Oh there is another guy who beat the #1 and #2 ranked 154 lb fighters. Well not quite at 35 but still. What was his name? Oh yeah, Dela Hoya. But he was past prime to since he lost to Mayweather right after that. This is why I defend Mayweather, cause ppl like you can't give him credit for whatever stupid reason. Marquez was coming up two weight classes? Oh like Duran when he beat Leonard or Mosley with Dela Hoya. That's not the same though right? Cause they were coming off two year layoffs just like Mayweather and it's not like Marquez ever beat anyone of note at 147 right?
all you do to defend Canelo is try to bring up ggg, that's how you know what Canelo is doing isn't s***. Why don't you focus on telling me why it's a good idea that Canelo move up a weight class (when there are several top fighters in his own division) to fight a guy who isn't the real champion in the organization who gave him this cheap regular champion status? It's laughable what these organizations do. They have a regular champion who is this Fieldmouse guy and the guy who is the super champion in Smith, ko'd fieldmouse in 1 round. Yet here you are licking Canelos sack over it as if he were sugar ray stepping up to face Hagler. Pathetic
Cause he is paying Felding a fraction of what he would have to pay Charlo or GGG
Mikey has respectable power. And if Spence came in reckless he could get hurt BUT I don't think that's what Garcia is relying on because Spence don't fight that way. He uses his range very well to throw solid punches.
1 thing Mikey has befuddled his last opponents with was his footwork/rhythm and its hard to time. I think he is relying on that to stay inside of Spences range and take away Spences game. Mikey will need to stick to a very very very tight game plan but it could work. RGBA has some big WW's in their stable right now, some thicker and taller than Spence. This also gives Mikey that confidence people are questioning.
And on that note, Peterson tried to stay inside Spence's power and took the worst beating of his career.
This is the guy that Lomachenko struggled with? This is your P4P #1's best win? LOL
Things happen. Happened to many greats. But I think Gary Russell is probably Lomachenkos best opponent or Nick Walters
Funny you say that because a past his prime Oscar lost a disputed split decision by 1 point to Floyd yet you don’t see how a prime Oscar beats Floyd. Lol
You don’t know boxing if you really believe that lol
Yeah but a much smarter dela Hoya, who didn't rely solely on natural talent. Would have played out completely different altogether
I saw thurman losing the fight even before the first round began. The man simply run his mouth. If a B-class Lopez almost stopped him, how much more for a legend like pacquiao?
I hope he will trade punches with pac till round 12 if by luck he will go the distance.
We all know Pacquiao was ko'd by two C class fighters and recently lost to a B class fighter himself right?
Aye, shielded him by putting him in with Whyte (who is miles better than Wilder), Klitschko, Povetkin and Parker. Wilder wont fight AJ and Fury was out of the loop. So who you want Joshua to fight?
Whyte went life and death with a shop worn Chisora. A worse version than the one that Fury embarrassed. How the hell is he better than Wilder.
No Floyd wasn’t “far past his prime” as you said when he fought Canelo. And I never said Floyd was “far past his prime” in any post. I said the fighters Floyd fought were past their primes like Oscar, Manny, and Mosley. But everyone knows Floyd is a supremely conditioned athlete. Nazem Richardson said that’s Floyd’s gift, his dedication and conditioning and ring IQ.
But that Alvarez that Floyd fought wasn’t the more experienced one we saw that beat Cotto, that dominated Khan, and fought to a draw with GGG where some people thought he won. Two different versions & two different boxers
And Benitez and Hearns at 21 & 22 were just as experienced as Leonard when they fought and close to his age. To me, that makes Leonard’s wins better because they were more equally matched. There was no wide age disparity like 23 to 36 respectively for Alvarez & Floyd. And Floyd’s win isn’t better just because he beat a younger fighter than himself. Floyd’s win would have been greater if he fought a fighter more equal to him considering all the tangibles. I will take experience from a high IQ and conditioned athlete in the ring over inexperience anyday. The best Wins Alvarez had before fighting Floyd was against a 40 year old Mosley, Austin Trout, and Baldomir? Floyd had these wins before fighting Alvarez....Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Baldomir, Mitchell, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, & Guerrero.
Who you think was more experienced Floyd or Canelo? Floyd’s wins can’t be better than Leonard’s or Ali’s or Robinson’s because their wins were against fighters in their primes who were more equally matched to them when they fought. Floyd has names on his resume, no question. But the playing field wasn’t always level when he fought them. Floyd has the “undefeated record,” 50-0, doesn’t mean he was better than Leonard or Ali or Sugar Ray Robinson. The strawweight guy going for 51-0 is irrelevant to me unless he retires undefeated than he has Floyd’s “record”-LOL!!!
Duran was in his prime when he fought Leonard. And Hagler was a few wars past it. Hearns and Benitez hadn't hit their prime yet. And Benitez was great, but who exactly did he beat before fighting Leonard? I bet it's pretty comparable to Canelo. And Canelo was as good or better than the Norris who ko'd 36 yr old Leonard.
Runtime, your last ko win was in 2015!!!!! LMAO, Pac is going to hurt you son, he's got more ko's than you have total fights. You can quit now instead of in your corner during the fight, it's up to you.
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When was Pacquiao's last KO and the corner stoppage of Mattysse, an actual KO
Yes he can, watch him.
Lol this is exactly what I was thinking. He would easily make the same fighting a guy commenting on this site as he would Andrade.
He hurt his arm because hes always getting his lanky self tangled & dislocates his rotator cuff for being stupid. He might never be the same,take it from me,I have the same injury.
That said Lomas definitely elite,but hes definitely nowhere near the best p4p fighter as the espn driven fans/media have tried to sell everyone from day 1. I been getting flamed on here because Ive always said Lomas hype will actually work against him, because he can never live up to the false hype they ordained him with. Hes a natural 135 lb fighter who can easily campaign at 140,hes mikeys size no matter how much his fans say otherwise.
And he has a long way to go before truly proving hes a hof fighter,paper wbo belts aside.
That just isnt true. Have you seen him next to Mikey? They are not the same size. Hell Mikey couldn't compete at 140 against top guys. He may end up looking similar to Linares against Spence.
The blueprint that Andy used requires an undentable chin. There may well be other ways to skin that cat but if you want to take one to give one there are very few who could take a shot from Joshua and survive it. Ruiz walked through several.
Did you watch the fight? Ruiz was down before hurting Joshua. He just showed a willingness to stand in the line of fire. Something Wilder has definitely and will definitely do
Everyone one who is considered great is compared to May......
You should go watch Whittaker fight and you would understand. He is very similar to Mayweather in many aspects of his game. He is who Mayweather was compared to coming up
Hahaha shots fired. Combinations offsets spence strengths. When someone is landing 3,4,5 combinations Spence thinks twice about going to the body.
And you saw this in what fight?
golovkin Vs Charlo is a 50-50 fight if you include the judges that will most likely favor charlo..no way haymon let golovkin ruin his investment and it's safe to assume that Charlo has a good chin and power enough to keep the fight close and make it go the distance
Why is it safe to say that he has a good chin? Who are the big punchers he faced?
Hmm. Idk about the sport needing this fight. I dont think ppl were begging for this. And no way Broner makes this look easy. I really cant see a way that he wins unless Pacquiao looks old as hell.
I'm never gonna pick against Garcia. I guess it's a heart pick.
I haven't gone back to watch all Spencer's available fights but looking at some footage I noticed he might be vulnerable down the middle. He may switch his tactics to be sure. But in at least one fight against an overmatched no hoper, he was holding his guard pretty wide. He was getting hit to the head and body down the middle, by the no hoper opponent.
I think Spence has different looks for sure, but he may have some defensive flaws.
He does, but dont let him fool you, he is really good at making subtle head movements to roll with punches. And even if, does Mikey have the power to make it matter?
better than floyd wow. floyd really needed to do more if he was going to go the quantity over quality path.
Idk. Maidana, Gatti, dela hoya, Pacquiao, cotto, Canelo, corrales, hernandez, Hatton, Judah, mosley, Guerrero, Ortiz, Marquez. All these guys are multiple weight world champions who beat some really really good fighters. Quite a few hofers in there as well. And ppl will hate, but I bet you can't name another fighter with a resume like this.
... Pacman: "He is the best 147- available at this time"...
I don't remember: did Pac call out Spence just after the Mikey fight?
No, Spence called him out
Idk. How could he possibly see something? Spence has only fought one all world guy in Brook. But Brook is better than anyone Mikey has fought. And Brook is a huge WW. Even if Mikey saw a ***** in Spence, what does he even have to exploit it. Spence hits super hard and Mikey isn't exactly hard to hit. He needs to worry about making it out of the first few rounds.
Peterson? Lmfao
Yeah the two division world champion who fought Tim Bradley, Amir Khan and Danny Garcia was never beat the way he was against Spence. Let's not act like Peterson is all of the sudden a bum.