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Where the hell did you get that shit from? Tyson bobbed and weaved because that's how cus d'amato strictly taught him. You make it sound like tyson was training himself. I agree he had alot of subconscious fear inside him though because he's really the scared bully type You make it sound like he wasted attracted to it. Which is my point, he wanted to be very very defensive and able to get out of the way of any punch quick while opening up a hard hit in close where they couldn't hit him as well. He admitted that was an obsession. His hero was Jack Dempsey, he wore the same shoes as Dempsey. And that was the way of Dempsey, that is my point. Tyson's biggest problem was that he got chicken shit and had a weak jaw.

Here is a short clip. You barely beat me to it :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD9Cf_dAVdg I'm sure I saw it at least one more time. So he was old there, I can see that happening. I don't know, every time I saw him get knocked out, he took it like a bitch. At least in his prime fights, it was like he had no real experience with it and did not know what to do or how to react.

How did Tyson have a weak jaw??? The many single punch knockdowns I saw him take? He could hit hard, ride a punch good or move out of the way quick, but when they did catch him he dropped like a sack of bricks. Maybe he simply was not used to getting hit hard :)

He needs to learn to pounce. He needs to learn hate and use his fear to his advantage. When someone hits or dazes him he should react with quick hard 10 hit combos while bobbing and weaving and moving around like crazy. He can take a hit, that is known. He has heavy hands and can deliver a solid one knock out punch, especially if he had better conditioning. So why doesn't he take advantage of that and become a pouncer that throws tons of hits? Sure it takes more conditioning, by the looks of his conditioning he needs more of everything. With those long arms, he could bob and weave at a slightly out of reach position and nail people constantly without even having to get in close.

Some of the best boxers in history couldn't spell. Spelling has little corrolation to other forms of knowledge. Pavlik looked slow, had a belly, had underformed muscle and didn't bother to throw punches. His punches had no crack and could not connect. He needs to learn to bob and weave, get good at moving or jumping constantly side to side, develop more muscle and speed, and learn to use those long arms with long range overhand hooks from a crouched position. He should study Louis, Tyson and Dempsey. He is already good at fighting stand up fighters, he needs to learn to fight bob and weavers and learn to bob and weave himself. He also needs the muscle development of Hopkins or Roy Jones, but in middleweight form. All of those things I don't think he well ever develop, so back to middleweight and a few more wins and some losses in his future before he gives up and retires. Even Hopkins told him after he fight he could take a hard hit, and give a solid heavy handed punch, but he needs to learn to move and deliver constant hard blows to a moving opponent.

He killed somebody in the ring and never let it show that it bothered him. But maybe he hated getting hurt. Mike Tyson was the same way. He said he worked on bobbing and weaving and research so much because he was terrified to get hurt. If you watch his matches where he gets hurt, instead of freaking like you would expect he would give up and lose. That is where Dempsey excelled, he did not care if he got hurt. When someone hurt him he freaked out and went nuts on them and tended to win with that. He was known to win fights completely blacked out with no memory. Tyson said most of the Hollyfield 1 fight was like that for him after the headbutt. I think that concussion ruined his promising career. At least that is my opinion.

please name one fight he was dropped by one punch just one fight. you're ****in sick man spreading these lies like that. damn disgracee!!11one It sounds like you think I mean knocked out, I said dropped. He did get back up. You need to smoke some pot and relax man.

I've seen every one of his fights man. I study those style of fighters for hours every day because it is what I am learning. I've seen him drop many times from one hard hit. People with good jaws usually have to be hit hard several times. Not with several soft rabbit punches and a hard hit thrown in, but several hard punches. I've seen Pavlik take several hard punches and just get woozy. So wtf man. And how many Dempsey fights have you seen if you say he had no defense? Have you seen his earlier fights before he got older, slower, and started fighting upright a lot more? Like the first Gene Tunney fight for instance? He did not utilize his bobbing and weaving there very often or very well. Look at some of his earlier fights, just like Tyson or Prince Naseem Hamed he would slide right out of the way of tons of punches while moving around constantly and landing heavy left hooks and right crosses or hooks on demand.

I remember seeing him get dropped by 1 punch in several fights, I would have to search through them to find the occurrences. They weren't his old fights but not his earliest either. What he would do is be slipping to the side each time, sort of turning away, and get caught right square in the jaw with a sort of looping cross and drop right to the mat. After that concussion from Evander I noticed Tyson not keeping his left hand back far enough to protect his jaw when turning down and to the side. Left him very open.