Although I'm not saying the fight was fixed, but it's nieve to think the "fix" happens in real time. You talk to the ref BEFORE the fight, instructing him to take the "opportunity" when it presents itself. Simple
you dont even have to talk to him. its implicit in most cases. like when the nectarine nero hires someone, its implicit that you are going to cover up his sex trafficking, other crimes, and commit new crimes otherwise you wouldnt have been hired and otherwise you will be fired and disparaged. a great system
TBud has the single buffest win among moderns
Naruto Ninja Naoya has been far more consistent
TBud top 25 all time
Naruto Ninja Naoya top 30 all time but can surpass TBud by beating JESSE bbc Bruce and/or Rafael
Top Soviet Bivol races pass Cossack Oleksandr by mopping Fat Dave & Buff Guy Jai. Currently held back by the fact that he has been a one division boxer.
JESSE ranking is nerfed he's more dwarf than Naruto Ninja Naoya and dwarf divisions need to get more respect
inoue's resume is much better than crawfords. moving up to beat 35 year old canelo who had been ducking the best fighter in his division for 4 years isnt the flex you think it is. its a good win but i dont think its as good as beating donaire at 118 where he was unbeaten and dominant, or prime fulton or prime nakatani. maybe its on par with those at best. the rest of inoues resume is much deeper with quality and quantity as well
kabayel was a good duck but unfortunate for agit, we would be talking about him as one of the greats right now if usyk didnt shamelessly duck him to fight a big cream puff
Usyk should just fight Wilder then retire if he doesn't want to challenge himself anymore.
they were talking about that fight and i thought...no that is too low for usyk, but he reached even lower
meaningless??
if canelo wins this fight,he will be only the 2nd fighter to ever become 3 time champ at 168.
when we win undisputed again, he will be the only fighter to become undisputed basically 3 times.
only passing himself, who was the first 168 undisputed . thief in the night crawford gets an asterik 168 champ who decided to retire rather than defend or rematch.canelo.
so now we start over and win them all back Again and that will be a first
we already beat one of the current champs and the other guy is unproven.
its very meaningful
yeah beating guys like blown up billy joe saunders who won a vacant belt against a bum and william scull but not figthing benavidez. look im undisputed! sounds nice but its completely hollow. its one thing to win all the belts but to do it while avoiding the #1 guy...pathetic. dont think he will go anywhere near iglesias anyway who has the ibf. canelo and munguia already turned down iglesias for easier belt opportunities. the grift continues...
Think it was more of a case of Dave Allen being brought in as a opponent who they expected to definitely lose to Johnny Fisher but he managed to win, so Eddie jumped on milking it as much as he could.
how bad must johnny fisher be? poor bloke
i said resume not accomplishments. i dont care about belts or any nonsense like that. its about beating good fighters otherwise you could say wilder is better than dubios or something hilarious cause wilder has a bunch of easy title defenses and dubois doesnt.
i dont have a problem if anyone thinks fury has a better overall resume, maybe he does but its at least very close and its close because fury hasnt put any quality work in for 4 years now. he definitely does not have a good recent resume at all. he has no notable wins since whyte which was 4 years ago. in that span dubios beat joshua, wardley, hrgovic and miller. 3 top 5 guys. fury beat ngannou, chisora and makhmadov. no top 10 guys. the wlad win might be better than any dubois win yes but that was 11 years ago. literally the same year pac and floyd fought but claiming they are top guys because of that fight would be downright silly.
we know fury is still a good fighter but he clearly lost both usyk fights about 9-3 or so. he did better than dubios but they just have different styles so its not a real surprise. in the second fight fury really didnt even try to win and thought he could get a decision putzing around. dubois' style led to him being ko'd but at least he was in there trying to land somethnig and change the fight, fury accepted his defeat because he didnt watn to be ko'd or hurt like the first fight so he didnt go for it. the ring is very generous having fury 4th but im guessing thats because of the fake controversy of fury claiming he won both usyk fights because if you go 4 years without a meaningful win you probably shouldnt be in the top 5 and dubois is clearly the 2nd most accomplished heavy of the last 3 years.
Tyson Fury is the second best until someone not named Usyk beats him. I feel pretty confident Dubois would have a lot of difficult with Fury's awkward style, measuring jab, and his huge uppercuts. Maybe Dubois can get inside and land a hard hook but Fury has never been KO. If Wilder or Usyk couldn't knock him out why would Dubois?
why? dubois might have a better resume than fury. he definitely has a much better recent resume over the last 3 years or so. fury hasnt beaten a top 10 opponent in more than 4 years while dubois has 3 and jarrell milller easily could be top 10 but he got robbed against ruiz jr. head to head fury might win yes but rankings should be about accomplishments not fantasy and furys wilder wins aged like milk
Wilder probably needs to fight again so pay that child support. My man has 8 kids with all these different women. Why can't a guy settle down and be happy with 1 woman. I mean I know why but y'know Ideally.
wait i thought he was a family man? thats how he was promoted. then again he was also promoted as the biggest puncher in boxing history yet has a paltry 25% ko ratio against top 10 opponents so maybe it was all a lie? maybe the nectarine nero was a ra-pist when he admitted it and women confirmed it? geez thats so crazy
Howard Foster prematurely stopped Froch - Groves 1. What was the lizard people's agenda on that occasion?
froch was the bigger star obviously and he saw an opportunity to give him a win. literally the same thing as wardley-parker and more evidence in my favor. thank you for steelmanning
Honestly, this should be Wilder's last fight if he insist on fighting again. They're about the same age and Joyce looked sort of okay against Hrgovic imo.
why wouldn't wilder fight again? hes so back!
Wilder was WBC champ for 5 years and had 10 title defenses. Thats not an easy feat, Joe Joyce hangs his hat on 2 victories over top/ semi top competition, one was a fight he was losing and the other was against an opponent that was more or less his caliber.
Wilder is greater, and prime v prime he would’ve sparked Joe Joyce out.
not sure if it was easy but beating parker and dubois is a hell of a lot harder than what wilder did which was beating a bunch of unranked bums. wilder beat 1 top 10 opponent in all those defenses and someone who is nowhere near as good as dubois or parker. ever heard the phrase quality over quantity? the guys joyce beat in his early career were about as good as wilders defenses, guys like stiverne who was one of wilders best wins and guys like jennings who was ortizs best win but joyce didnt have a belt to label them defenses. the label isnt what matters. the substance is what matters and wilder did not have it. he kept figthing guys like arreola, spilzka, washington, molina, duhapas, etc...
Yes, because at this point, their top victories are close. So I am comparing them purely on activity, and Wilder has a bit more bums on his record, even though Joyce's are a bit classier. Unfortunately, Joyce didn't have enough good fights when he was younger, while Wilder had plenty against nobodies. And both are late to catch up. I believe they could have done better in their careers, they had the potential.
However, I will not argue the opposite point of view, as it's all on the edge.
you think beating dubios and parker is close to beating ortiz, stiverne, or 42 year old chisora? those dont seem close at all to me. parker beat ruiz who went on to be #1, zhang who was #3, wilder who was #3, bakole #6. dubios just beat #2 wardley, #3 joshua, and #5 hrgovic. ortiz in comparison has 1 top 10 win over the # 5 guy, stiverne 1 top 10 win over the #7 guy. chisora none offiically but a couple very debatable losses to top 10 fighters.
No, you're literally the only person on earth who noticed, special individual that you are.
Perhaps the referee listened to the criticism and responded as fans apparently wanted him to?
thank you that feels nice to hear
you really think thats what happened? we can go back in this referee's career and find times before the parker fight where he let certain fighters take huge beatings and others where he jumps in instantly so he changed the way he officiated in the parker fight and then changed it again after it? thats crazy bad luck for parker.