Ouches! Any idea how long this sort of injury will take to fix? Could it spell the end for Burns?
a mate of mine just broke his jaw after being concussed three times in the past three weeks. he has to have surgery tommorow and a plate put into his jaw. they said that because of his jaw plus his his recent concussions he can never fight again because of the, what the docter said, 70% chance of dieing due to internal bleeding. feel extremely sorry for the bloke and hope he comes through well
U didn't talk about the thread title nor provide any quotes or sources tho it is possible Liston met his end that way
On 5 January 1970, he was found lying at the foot of his bed in the Las Vegas home where he had spent the loneliest of Christmases. He had been dead for six days. The coroner cited natural causes stemming from lung congestion; Geraldine, Liston's fiercely loyal wife, claimed it was heart failure; nobody else was convinced on either count, not least since one of the victim's arms bore needle tracks.
According to Warjac: Most Wanted, a newly completed book by Greg Swaim about his late father, Dale Cline, aka James John Warjac, the Mob hitman admitted he had helped kill Liston via an enforced heroin overdose, a popular Mob execution technique.
Liston was always destined to meet a sticky end. Feared inside the ring, loathed outside, he needed the aid of gangsters to secure opponents. So long as he was winning he was useful; after Lewiston, he became increasingly dispensable.
Unwilling to ingratiate himself, he did little to help his own cause. For some, the last straw was his alleged refusal to throw a bout with Chuck Wepner, the uncultured bruiser who inspired Sylvester Stallone's Rocky franchise. Liston also knew far too much: who knew what he might he let slip about those Ali bouts? At the time, it was deduced that Liston had fallen while preparing for bed and struck his head on a bench. Police sergeant Gary Beckwith, however, discovered some heroin in a balloon and a syringe near the body. More-over, the autopsy ascertained that Liston's blood contained traces of codeine and morphine – common when heroin is broken down.
As far as Floyd being slower, I dont know how many people notice this, but he is always slow against Southpaws, and your basing this off his last fight. Against Ghost, Judah, and Ortiz, he's very slow. His right hand is almost like a cannon that he shoots out. All the fights against ortho fighters, he is exceptionally fast. Like even against Cotto, he was overtrained and sloppy, but he was still fasterhanded than he was against Ghost. As far as him getting better, Floyd is actually much more complete now than when he was younger. When he was younger he was a scrappy fighter with great defense. As he went to ww, he began to outbox and dominate guys the WHOLE fight, without getting grazed. I actually think his fight against JMM was the first time we seen the version of Floyd that calmly counterpunches, and goes the whole fight without getting hit. Also if you check his plus minus ratings, at ww he actually got more accurate, and more defensively sound. His plus minus rating slowly improved as he went up in weight. Check the numbers!
Great response mate and exactly what i was looking for, great observation with the southpaws, i looked back through the footage and this is completely true, thanks for your insight mate a really good responce
He didnt fight anyone at 140. 135 is the best Floyd. He could never reproduce another Corralles.
why do you think he fought best at this weight and what do you think was his best fight at this weight?
i think that all of this partying and the other side of broner that isnt boxing will really effect his career not only now but in the long run. He will spend money that he thinks he has. when he loses and his career starts going down hill boxing will no longer be an option and he will find that thew people around him also will leave because there rich boxing friend isnt so rich anymores. if he keeps partying and drinking he will get too fat and his career will end faster than he believes