There are two world heavyweight champions, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder.
They each fought twice last year. Joshua's two opponents are ranked #5 and #13 right now and Wilder's two opponents are ranked #3 and #8 right now.
Wilder stepped up last year it's true, but his resume prior to 2018 was much weaker. Joshua has fought way more WBC top 15 than Wilder, and he doesnt even have the wbc belt. Oh and Wilder didn't win the second of those 2018 fights - the #3, so paper champ it is until he puts in some Ws against top 15.
Reading the article they seem to be assuming Fury gets 40% of the TV revenue, that has been estimated at GBP 50m.
That's 850k US PPVs and no cut for the distributing network!!
The Daily Mail is a semi-reputable newspaper in the UK, but I think they have got the wrong end of the stick here.
Don't accept that either Wilder or AJ lack skills.
AJ's longer fights: outboxed Breazeale, Whyte, Takam & Parker was well head on points at all times in those fights. Somehow he was well ahead vs Povetkin, only close points was Wlad - a very high standard fighter. The rest of AJ'ss fights are too short to make anything out of them.
Joshua also won a Olympic Gold without any KOs, head guards and heavy gloves to nullify his power. Some generous judging along the way, particularly in one fight, but he still showed high skill & speed in those fights.
Wilder was handily ahead at all times on points vs Stiverne I, Arreola, Molina & Duphaus, close but still ahead (some controversy) Ortiz, Washington and Szpilka. Struggled with Fury skill wise but so have many others. Rest of his fights are short though his demolition of Firtha was very impressive - watch his jab in that fight, Wilder did a better job with Firtha than either Fury or Povetkin.
Wilder is not just a KO punch, he is big 3 for more than just power, but probably Joshua has slightly better skills.
Not to mention Cojanu went the distance with Parker and Ortiz KO'd him in 2 rounds lol
Cojanu was a late substitute when H Fury pulled out with days to go, was not Parker's intended choice of opponent. True that Parker didn't look great in the fight.
Personally I would have preferred the Whyte fight, I think Miller's style is ready-made for Joshua - at least we already know that Whyte can hurt Joshua - Miller on the other hand doesn't have power that matches his frame. That said it's not like there's a big difference either way, Joshua's just doing the best he can with what's available so I can't really criticise him for it. I think it'll be a good test of whether Miller is actually a top level fighter or not, even if he loses he can elevate his stock by putting up a good fight.
I would go further than this. Whyte would be an underdog, but with his trusty left hook and newly improved fitness he would have a chance to make Joshua stumble and keep things honest and disciplined, I would just about buy the PPV.
Maybe I DKSAB but whenever I watch Miller on youtube, I think he has next to no chance at all, he looks slow and lacking in defensive skills or punching power and the will be type of opponent who Joshua fought in his early carreer that lacked the threat to keep Joshua from freely punching them. With those early opponents Joshua didn't have to watch his guard, just unload the shots - he has enough power to stop anyone. I won't buy the PPV for this I can't see an exciting contest developing, just a one way punching bag match to make Joshua look good in the US of A.
Ortiz has taken every big fight offer challenge that has been presented to him. Dillan Whyte and Joe Joyce both publicly called him out. Ortiz accepted, and they went into hiding with their tail between their legs. Neither had a fight signed to use as an excuse. All they want to do is do the brave posturing for the media.
Yeah yeah and Takam and Chisora and Pulev and every other top 30 hw. All of them ducking ? nah its just an excuse for having a couple of easy fights. Besides he is fighting Hammer next so not available right now and proof that he can get a better fight if he tries.
Or he could just accept the $5million+ offer to fight AJ for 3 world title belts in Aptil.
exactly this. Big difference between Wilder Fury 2 on US PPV turning down Joshua vs Whyte turning it down.
But Breeze says Wilder retires after he beats him, leaving the path clear to become undisputed HW champion of the world!
The closest he will actually get is the dream he has while flat on the canvass on Saturday night.
Didn't say it was Wilders fault, the other guy was saying it's a better fight than AJ v Miller.
I said "not much better" by which I meant these are not the fights the fans want to see, yes Joshua - Miller included.
Miller is a 6-1 outsider vs Joshua. Eddie Hearn is talking it up, but I think Miller is slow and easy to hit - even Wach tagged him. Miller has never been in a ring with anyone near to the speed and power of Anthony Joshua. Miller's last 4 fights: Wach, Duphaus, Adamek, Dinu.
Can't find any odds yet, but I imagine Breazeale will also be 5-1 or longer against Wilder when the book makers do publish. Another non-competitive fight. I will change my mind if it's less than 3-1. I know some knowledgable forum posters are giving Breazeale a chance based on reach and power, but most do not, DB is slow and easy to hit (see his fights against Izu, Mansour and AJ) and that is not a good thing for a fight against Wilder. DB's last four fights: Anhilated by Joshua, Izu, Molina (1 year gap) Negron.
And these are the best two fights in the pipeline!! So far 2019 is shaping up as a bad year for H/W fights.
LOL why bring up Loma though?
With so many olympic medallist who DON'T go on to do great things as pros, why would he bring up the one who actually is universally rated as top P4P?
Not saying olympic matters or don't... just he could have chosen a less successful example than Loma to make his point.
Audley Harrison maybe? UK, olympic gold medal winning H/W.
Come off it. Joshua vs Miller is a much better fight but as usual AJ is held to a much higher standard while Wilder is given a pass.
Team hearn bigged up Breazeale prior to the AJ fight, Hearn quotes Breazeale's name when saying AJ has a good resume (Wlad, Povetin, Parket, Whyte, Breazeale etc). They can't turn round now and say he is trash - that would be admitting that one of AJ defences was not worth much.
I dont think it counts when it was achieved with an illegal head butt.
Whyte put Parker down twice. First was a head butt. Second was his trusty left hook. Sweet punch, Parker did well to survive.
It's a worse fight, atleast Millers level is still is an unknown and another top ten fighter being cleared out by AJ.
Those odds just show little faith in Wilder, Breazeales odds were 12/1 to beat AJ before AJ shown he was good enough to beat Klitschko.
https://www.************.com/2016/06/odds-suggest-anthony-joshua-v-dominic-breazeale-will-explosive-encounter/
If you don't rate Wilder much, then yes you would think it's a worse fight. I'm starting from the premise that we don't really know who is the best out of the big 3. I note the Wilder Fury II odds were only 5/4 in favour of Fury.
I accept that if you are of the view that Wilder is lousy, then Wilder Breazeale at 5-1 is a horrible fight, personally I don't think Wilder is so bad, he put Fury down twice and came closer to beating him than anyone else has (save big John McD who was robbed). Even if you score Wilder v Fury as 114-112 to Fury, that's still a close fight.
Who do you think has more chance of winning Miller vs AJ or Breazeale vs Wilder?
Both seem like long shot, poor quality fights to me. Argueably Breazeale has the better chance.
Yes Miller is undefeated, but I am long done with "someone's 0 has got to go" as a way to hype a fight. Bogdan Dinu was undefeated prior to Miller. So was Arnold Gjergjaj vs David Haye - remember that? At least that was on free TV and not PPV.
FYI, I called the Hammer upset win at least 2 weeks ago, maybe longer.
fill your boots hammer is 10-1
Although I think Ortiz is favourite I can see value in 10-1 for the younger man
Wlad AJ was 20 GBP. I figure that's similar to the cinema for me and the wife so I buy boxing at that price. I would never buy at 60+ they pay in the USA. Maybe that's why boxing is thriving in the UK.
Every woman reacts differently to being violated in that way. Some keep it a secret and hope nobody ever finds out. Others shine a light on what happened in hopes of helping others, for personal revenge, or for a variety of reasons.
And some go to the "violater's" party and start giving out lap dances?
That's a waste of time on behalf of Hearn. With the Fury fight cancelled which was also mandated btw, Breazeales Mandatory position goes back in place. You just want Wilder to have a safer fight against a small easy to hit counter puncher . Ha
Not necessarily a waste of time.
Whyte theatening to sue the WBC if they don't make him mandatory on the basis that they stipulated Whyte Breazeale as mandatory eliminator. His arguement would be that he has made decisions based on that status and it is Breazeale who is pulling out of the fight, not him, so per their own rules he should inherit.
Hearn is aiming to pincer Wilder (or Breazeale if he wins) between Whyte and Joshua.
No problem with him fighting Ortiz and Fury, that was stepping up from he previous level of opponent, a replay with Fury would be taking on a hard fight again, but Breazeale would be a duck of the chance to unify with Joshua apparently begging to fight. Joshua smashed Breazeale. Mandatory is no excuse as the WBC have said they prefer Joshua to Breazeale. If Wilder fights Breazy next then he will look lame and the duck will pass from Joshua to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IED8pbnQlDg
Kiss is at 1:10. He is well out of order, no excuses - he would not have done that to a male reporter.
Now he's got to face up to what he did.
DDD too big and too strong for Gorman, Gorman has skills and variety of punches so he has looked good so far but it's all against smaller weaker guys, the Joyces and DDDs of this world can club their way through him.
Maybe people feel he should beat a top 10 fighter to earn another shot at a title? Somethings he's never done.
What title does Fury have that Ortiz is asking for a shot at?
I hope you don't mean the "Lineal" one.
He appears to be asking a top 10 fighter for a fight - just like you want him to do.
He's challenging a ruling that allowed Breazelle to be #1 contender
You mean the ruling thats always been there? Fight a final eliminator?
The basis for Whyte's claim is slightly different. The WBC called for Whyte - Breazeale eliminator to be made interim champion and mandatory challenger: Whyte took decisions on the basis of that mandate, and Whyte did not pull out of the mandated fight.
The WBC rules have lots of discretion and wriggle room though, I'd be surpised if he can make a lawsuit stick.
Apparently the community here skipped reading comprehension. LOL
Agree with this - Note Miller also says the offer is good (hunt for the recent video interview) - doesn't use the word lowball at all.
This can be interpreted in various ways accordiing to your agenda:
1) Joshua gives Miller so a fair offer 'cos he thinks it is the easy fight. He is milking his fan base and lowballing Fury/Wilder/Whyte to avoid risky fights.
2) Joshua has beaten up top quality opponents. Fury/Wilder/Whyte only want to fight him if they are getting paid very big.
3) Wilder & Fury have a good alternative option (rematch on US PPV with $$ upside), Dillian Whyte is making a mistake.
I see the following implied % chance of Joshua victory per bookmakers odds:
Fury - 55%
Wilder - 67%
Whyte - 80%
Uysk - 82%
Miller - 83%
Bookies have to price correctly or they lose their shirts. Whyte is not a much harder fight than Miller. Dillian is making a mistake if he turns down the opportunity to fight Joshua at Wembley for 3 belts - if he won it would be by far the biggest win of his career.
Yeah am just laughing at all these desperate attempts, sure the girl was lapdancing his brother or whatever, that doesn't give him the right to kiss her on camera, so unless he has a sex tape of them two fucking each other, i don't see his point in regards to the kiss on camera.
You have not understood the power and relevance of the video.
In her (lawyer accompanied) statement she portrayed herself as someone who was doing her job professionally and out of the blue got grabbed and kissed, totally unacceptable, hence all the white knights on this forum.
However the lap dance video is shot AFTER the kiss, at Pulev's own party. She's flaunting; Pulev is just a few feet away. It doesn't fit her "professional at work" "shocked and horrified" narrative.
She claims she went to the party to interview other boxers. Does this look like a professional interview to you? The video runs contrary to her story of why she went to the party. It supports a claim that she uses her sexuality to ingratiate herself to the boxing community.
Casting doubt on a plaintiff's truthfulness, behaviour prior and after the event of the complaint and their motives for the lawsuit is the name of the game.
Pulev's defense could be consent - she flirted and flaunted her sexuality with him prior to and after the interview, the kiss was typical of their interactions. She did nothing until a lawyer told her she could make money, then she changed her story to exploit the #metoo environment. Her motive is not justice for violation but money from a deep pocket, the video proves she is a liar.
On it's own this short video might not be enough- the kiss interview is very damning and does not look like consent, she would still be favorite to win, but it's no where near as wide as it was yesterday.