Now Bute expects Ward to give into his every demand as far as location, purpse split, co-promotion, etc etc.
He basically threw up half a dozen roadblocks to a Ward fight before negotiations could even begin.
Location. Really men? Bute said his willing to go to Oakland. How that for location. The rest were never discussed because apparently Ward believes Bute is not worthy enough, I could only wander who's more willing since the only answer is tight up with Stieglitz.
There's no great mystery there.
Bute has one fight left on his contract with Showtime, and they want that fight to be against the Super Six winner not the Super Six runner up.
The Super Six winner made it clear right after he won that he won't fight Bute.
How does Showtime expects Bute to fight Ward when Ward doesn't want Bute right now. :damnit1:
Bute was a very big Super middleweight. The move up may rejuvenate him.
Bute looked very weigh-drained, especially in his last 2 fight at SMW. Look at pictures of Bute-Johnson and Bute-Froch and you'll see what I mean. For Grachev fight even if he was only 1lbs over the 168 limit he looked a bit better.
He was suborned and wanted to stay at 168 for Ward, after that possibility gone out the window and he lost to Froch, he thought to stay there for the Re-match. So the thing that could turn the tides here, can be the fact that Bute might have been suffering the effects of draining himself into making 168.
At 175 we might see a Bute that will have better chin, better power, better stamina, all that could have been the effects of weight-draining. It will be very interesting to see if that was the case.
"Bute said he would go to Oakland" LMAO
Key word "said".
Bute says a lot of things about fights he wants and lengths he is willing to go to yet he never finds himself in the ring against a decent opponent.
They say they will go somewhere then they enter into a negotiation and say "well we can draw a bigger gate in Montreal so it doesn't make sense to agree to go anywhere, Lucian can stay home, fight a bum and make the same money."
Story of his career. I'm not being hateful, I am just not ignoring history like you two nuthuggers.
Hey ****face at least Bute said he would, you know what Ward said?
Everybody is asking me what's next and they ask about Bute I say he needs to fight 1 or 2 A lvl fighters to earn a shot at me.
LMAO who he fought to earn a shot at WBA Champion Kessler and #1 in the division ? Shelby Pudwill or Henry Buchanan ?! :nono:
A "lucrative offer of 3,000,000 Danish Kroner" to Stieglitz.
That's:
- £347,000
- €402,000
- $552,000
That's not really particularly lucrative for a world-title bout at Middlewight.
If they do make such an offer then I'm sure Stieglitz would turn it down. It's a very high-risk fight for Stieglitz against a world-class opponent. I'm sure he'd want at least twice that amount (>$1m) to fight Kessler.
Bute's promoter Interbox offered Stieglitz's team 500,000$ and all the German Tv rights. Thinking that the Romanian Tv rights for Bute-Miranda have been 116,000€ (150,000$) and for Bute-Brinkley 100,000€(130,000$), not knowing at what prices the German Tv channels are buying the Tv Airing rights for Stieglitz's fights , and considering that this is a big unification bout I'm gonna assume the minimum is to be around 200,000$, that will sum up to a final of 700,000$.
So why accept a lesser offer from Kessler when he had a bigger offer from Bute like a month ago when Bute was looking for opponents and end up with Magee ?
Froch can hurt Bute. But Carl really needs to learn to fight with his guard up
Last top guy in from the Super Middleweight division that Carl Froch has Ko'ed was a shot to pieces blown up Middleweight - Taylor -
Don't know how much Froch can hurt Bute.
Bute is a coward he wants to fight an American...??????
That rules out Kessler..............
Unless its Ward hes an out right p*ssy
He dodged the super 6
He needs to get some balls he has skill...
But is wasting it fighting bums
Idiot it's showtime who rejected the fight because they wanted an american. Right now you don't even know if Bute and Froch can take this to HBO and still happen moron.
now that Stieglitz has got a deal with German TV-giant SAT1, hes able to make more money fightin cuns a several times than losing his belt and Tv-contract now to Kessler. lmo
Do you know how much they're paying for his average fights ?
It will be nice to know , I could make a more accurate assumption of Bute's offer
Selcuk is more of a gypsy than Dan.
The "Roma" aka gypsy's most likely originated in today's India. In fact, the language still spoken by about two-thirds of today's European Roma — called Romany — is related to contemporary Indian languages. The Roma migrated into Europe through the Ottoman Empire (today's Turkey), arriving in the Balkan Peninsula in the 1300s.
So i've heard USADA will be doing the drug tests, and heard something like the fighters will could have 1 or 2 unexpected tests even 1 year after the fight's over.
Don't know if the last one's a rumor or a fact.
Doesn't this means Bute isn't enforcing his Froch rematch anymore? Not that am complaining about this Romanian v haitian super fight that's taking place in Canada.
No.
Bute still want's Froch, but can't get him right now. Obviously because Froch has a fight he wanted more, against Kessler. Interbox played this well. Bute stock will rise back up again if he beat Pascal. Stevenson is taken out of the IBF mandatory spot by Dawson, and Lucian will find himself in a very good position as Canada's best fighter trying to avenge his only loss.
Bute vs Froch 2 will be a huge money fight like this one against Pascal.
Why do you guys think Pascal-Dawson was dropped by HBO for the one that's happening now.
Dont you think he would be tired of fighting canadians of in canada?
Fought his last 4 fights in Canada only once not being the "opponent", and fought 5 times in canada in bigger fights. Fought Bute (twice), Otis Grant, Eric Lucas.
Whats next St Juste? Diaconu? Pascal? Lemeuix?, when can they embrace him as one of their own??
I would love to see Pascal-Andrade at 175 right now.
What happened with Viorel Simion fight ? He was suppose to fight Simion.... I was looking forward to that fight. Pfff!
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=358804&cat=boxer
He was offered 750K.
I bet that if Dirrell gets an offer from Bute, which is highly unlikely, he'll be offered 500K at the very most.
He was offered a guaranteed 750k + Danish PPV
You don't know how much he was receiving from live gate, and WorldWide Tv Rights etc. Stop eating **** littleDane.
Froch Bute is such a winnable fight it is not funny. Froch should just go ahead & lift Bute's strap right off that chump & send him packing. Then consider another unification. I think it's time to unify some $hut!! Undesputed anyone.
It's so winnable fight that it should be funny when Bute Knocks him out.