Warrior7

He might do it, he gave even Usyk hard fight. However, he would need to be in a really top shape. Also, I am not sure that he is good fit against Hrgovic who prefers shorter opponents, not the ones as big as him who can push him back. In any case, sign me up, I would like to see that fight!

Really. I know something about boxing RJJ, and Hrgoivc beat Zhang on points ( the knock down called against him was BS ) and had not lost many rounds in any fight. And he has taken six underfed records in 16 for fights. You under rater Hrgoivc's will for battle. He will walk right through Usyk's punches , and he had the size, reach, punch output., accuracy and speed to cause him problems. And the power to hurt him when he lands. He is in his prime now. Usyk will be 37 soon, but he is without a doubt a top 3 heavyweight today. Oh by the way it is an open secret that Usky does not take a good body punch, which Hrgovic has. Remember that. I'm not saying Usyk has no chance. I am saying it highly likely he will box circlers around him. Only an idiot believes that. I will do a breakdown of the fight once it's an absolute go.​ In the man time, keep up the player hating. Dr. Z had a really good post. I would like to show basically the same thing from different angle, which is often not looked at all. As I wrote in one other thread where they were talking how Usyk will destroy Hrgovic. I see that you are greatly underestimating Hrgovic chances against Usyk. Everything is in how someone match up with someone, and Hrgovic has chances against Usyk since he learned how to handle shorter and shifty fighters. That is one of his strongest sides actually. To illustrate that, do yourself a favour and check on youtube Hrgovic fight against Sergey Kuzmin (European gold medalist in 2010... Usyk was in 2008 and Hrgovic was European gold medalist in 2015 ), Kuzmin looked in that fight like a random a guy they took from a bar. Then find Sergey Kuzmin fight against Joe Joyce where he knocked out Joyce. What happened? Well, Kuzmin was a terrible match up for Joyce, as someone in comments said: Short Heavyweight with punch and good hand speed are nightmare for Joyce. Well, Kuzimin is not even that short, he is the height of Usyk (and nowhere near as good as Usyk, of course) ... however, that was a perfect height difference for (much younger) Hrgovic who was literally mercilessly beating Kuzmin for the whole 5 rounds (BTW, just to mention, Klitschko was the all time greatest master in handling shorter fighters) Later, in professional career Kuzmin lost against Martin Bakole and Michael Hunter (his only two losses), so it's clear he is not such a big class, but he is still a serious fighter who matches up badly against a Hrgovic. For the end, perhaps you remember that Michael Hunter was supposed to fight Hrgovic in IBF final eliminator and was happy about it .. and suddenly he gave up of the fight. What happened? He and his team analyzed Hrgovic and noticed that he is great at handling shorter fighters and concluded they really don't need that kind of fight. In short, to me Usyk Hrgovic looks like the fight that can easily go either way, due to Usyk being a good fit for Hrgovic. Actually, as strange as it sounds, perhaps Hrgovic is actually, favorite in that fight, as Dr. Z say ... since he is definitely better expert then me. ​

Zhang and McKean DID not have greater reach than Hrgovic. But you are tight when you say Hrgovic can punish them up close or at range. Dr Z, we agree. Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I also stated that Hrgovic had reach advantage even with tall fighters like Mckean and Zhang. Here are the details. (Height is 6 ft 6 in for all 3 of them): Hrgovic reach 82 in Mckean reach 77 in Zhang reach 80 in To put that into context, Hrgovic has a bit bigger reach even then a Klitschko brothers. On the other side AJ has the same reach as Hrgovic, 82 in. So neither of the fighters will have any advantage. They both have good fundamentals, but AJ have much more experience and is a bit better in most of the things. However, Hrgovic has a better chin and almost certainly hits harder, so fight will certainly be very competitive. I said 3 regarding Hrgovic chances, but if we want to put that into percentage, I would say 35% is about right. ​

I would say 3, since AJ is really fighting well lately. It's funny that it looks to me that Hrgovic would actually have more chances against Usyk. He likes smaller opponents and know how to keep them at distance and punish them when they try to come closer. Even big fighters like Mckean and Zhang were of his height but he had significantly bigger reach. AJ is of the same height AND reach. That will certainly create a need for adjustments in his style. And as I said, AJ is in a really great shape lately, so it will be necessary to beat the best version of AJ. I bet that he hopes to fight Usyk, due to his style and size (please note I am not saying that AJ is better then Usyk, just that Usyk would fit him better... and as we all know, styles make fights).

I'm pissed can only watch on my laptop because Dazn is giving me an error code when I try to watch on my TV. Dazn has the worst timing when it comes to glitches and errors. :mad: Try to connect laptop to the TV through HDMI port. A bit of a hassle but at least you could watch it on TV.

First, McKean fundamentals are not good and he has only puncher's chance against any serious opponent. With that said, I want to point something that certainly everybody noticed, and which bothered me the whole fight. Every time he got seriously punched (which was often) he came close to Hrgovic, catching his hands so that he can't move them ...trying to push him towards to ropes in order to catch the ropes and hold Hrgovic for a while (holding ropes with both hands and Hrgovic in between) ... so that Hrgovic can't continue with the punches. McKean was MMA fighter so he is really good at it, but this is boxing and such things should not be allowed. At moments it looked like a wrestling or MMA match, not boxing. If referee doesn't step in and allows that, his every other fight against better fighter will look like this. He will survive till late rounds and the fight will be mostly unwatchable. So, I hope that officials noticed that and will point out to the referee in his next fight not to allow it (at least not innumerable times during the whole fight). Then we will see how much he can really hold against better fighters.

No need for Joe to revive Yoka's career after such a robbery. Except if he decide that he can that way get an easy win that would make him look good. But i doubt that victory would bring him much credentials. Yoka already showed that he is nobody in pro boxing.

Solid AJ against somewhat limited opponent. Now is time to move to Wilder. It will be fun fight!

I see that you are greatly underestimating Hrgovic chances against Usyk. Everything is in how someone match up with someone, and Hrgovic has chances against Usyk since he learned how to handle shorter fighters. That is one of his strongest sides actually. To illustrate that, do yourself a favour and check on youtube Hrgovic fight against Sergey Kuzmin (European gold medalist in 2010... Usyk was in 2008 and Hrgovic was European gold medalist in 2015 ), Kuzmin looks like someone took a random a guy from a bar. Then find Sergey Kuzmin fight against Joe Joyce where he knocked out Joyce. What happened? Well, Kuzmin was a terrible match up for Joyce, as someone in comments said: Short Heavyweight with punch and good hand speed are nightmare for Joyce. Well, Kuzimin is not even that short, he is the height of Usyk (and nowhere near as good as Usyk, of course) ... however, that was a perfect height difference for (much younger) Hrgovic who was literally mercilessly beating Kuzmin for the whole 5 rounds (BTW, just to mention, Klitschko was the all time greatest master in handling shorter fighters) Later, in professional career Kuzmin lost against Martin Bakole and Michael Hunter (his only two losses), so it's clear he is not such a big class, but he is still a serious fighter who matches up badly against a Hrgovic. And after that, please find the fight between Hrgovic and Joyce, two equally matched fighters where Joyce won in split decision in a really great fight (you will not regret watching it). For the end, perhaps you remember that Michael Hunter was supposed to fight Hrgovic in IBF final eliminator and was happy about it .. and suddenly he gave up of the fight. What happened? He and his team analyzed Hrgovic and noticed that he is great at handling shorter fighters and concluded they really don't need that kind of fight.

Win or lose, I always like to see Chisora. I hope he has few more big fights in himself, but he will have to prove that.

Fury obviously didn't feel ready for a fight, so injury happened. As someone said, very predictable.

Damn dubois, not again, shot at the title, you gotta get up I also couldn't believe that he is waiting to get up till 9. He was definitely not knocked out with that short right ... but I think he just lacks heart for tough fight and wasn't even complaining on referee decision. However, I am sure he will be very angry on himself later.