I just don't get it. WADA came up with their protocol for a reason. They're the experts, not me, and not Manny either. Why comply to that test, but with exceptions? Why not comply fully? WADA are the experts, whether people here choose to believe it or not, and their program has been safely practiced for a while now.
I'm still waiting for one good reason why Pac shouldn't agree to testing without cutoffs. So far I've heard the "his arm will be sore" excuse, which doesn't cut it.
So why isn't Floyd being tested year round?
The testing for Floyd and Shane was random you fuucking idiot...LOL
Pac ran from 14 days....
Now you crazy mofos believe he was OK with 7...
Knowing when you're going to be tested isn't random.
Both guys knew they would be tested during training camp.
So much for "random".
rubbish. no one. no one on gods earth would walk away from a $40 mil or so payday.
Floyd did.
The second time he walked away from what would have been at the time, his career high payday.
Luckily for him, someone else put up 1 more dollar for him to face Baldomir.
Nobody will put up 40 mil for him unless its for Manny.
He should take it too, "easy money, "easy work".
There's no cutoffs dates, and look in the dictionary to what the word random means.
Full random Olympic style testing.
Floyds doing year round testing?
Since when?
Here we are almost a full year when this whole ordeal began,
not a single Floyd stan can give one good reason why Manny needs to abide by the FMC other than "because Floyd feels he might be on something".
"Floyd will kick his a ss"
"Mannys a one dimensional fighter"
"Floyd will easily outbox him"
"Floyd timing is the best in the business"
"Manny can't avoid the counter - see Marquez"
"Floyd is quicker and stronger"
"Manny needs to take OSTs from a company hired by Floyd"
Pure comedy.
This is mind blowing. When someone calls me a cheater, all I want to do is prove them wrong. Pac had an easy way to prove Mayweather wrong, and he avoided it. It's as simple as that.
When someone calls me a cheater,
they better have something factual to base it on.
You may bow down and cater to your accusers on their whim,
I and many other men don't.
If you don't have evidence to even suggest that I was cheating,
why would I waste my time defending myself?
"Because Sosa said so?"
To the idiots who suggested that Mayweather/Mosley had a cut-off date, the testing they conducted were RANDOM - so they could of been tested 30 days before the fight and that's it but it was still RANDOM. If it was 7 days cut-off, it's not RANDOM because they can't test 7 days prior to the fight. Just because Mayweather/Mosley didn't get tested a day before the fight or whatever doesn't mean there was a cut-off date, neither of them had no idea when the last test was going to take test. Plus if anything its good news to Pac.. if they stopped 18 days before the fight for Mayweather/Mosley(don't know if this is true - source it please) then it should be plenty of time, I doubt they would of an agenda against Pac and test a day before the fight..Manny has brought it upon himself to arouse suspicions, combine that with Floyd's ultra ego and Manny's stubbornness and you'll have Floyd try and gain the upper hand in the negotiations. Blood tests don't weaken you, if it's psychological then deal with it - get help. This all came from the Morales fight - Manny you're a great fighter but you got out boxed by Morales not because your socks were itchy or blood tests weakens you. Floyd's ego is TOO big to drop the testing issue, he's gone this far with it - Manny needs to be the bigger man and the 'hero' and beat Mayweather in his own game by taking the tests. If not, they're both losers.
Its not random when Floyd and Shane knew they were going to be tested in a certain time frame.
Random means they would be getting tested all year.
The Floyd commission only pretends to be random.
btw, being egotistical is psychological as well, I'd say he needs more help than Manny at this point.
It's not random when you know you'll be tested all year round either. Using your logic random testing isn't even real because it's incorrect.
Idiot.
Sorry, but the agency and organizations that actually use year round testing,
disagree with you.
I don't know dude, this is pretty easy to understand. Unless someone invents a time machine, you can only agree to test going forward until the time of the fight. If you can be tested at any time, day or night from that day until the day of the fight, what would you call that, if not random?
Yeah, best case they would be tested all year for the remainder of their career. They couldn't even get Pac to agree to test up until his next fight.
You nor anyone else can even explain why he needs to agree to any extra tests other than, "because Floyd thinks hes on something".
Why would Floyd think that? Because a fighter in his absolute prime is knocking dudes out? The same thing hes done his entire career?
If anything, Floyd should have been most suspicious about Juan Manuel Marquez. Hes a fighter in his mid 30s who moved up to lightweight and knocked out 2 career lightweights who had never been stopped before.
Where did he get that type of power?
Bottom line, Floyd tried getting Manny to abide by the Floyd commission thinking Pacquaio would fold. As the saying goes in boxing, theres more to the fight than what goes on in the ring. Floyd tried to get that advantage, and it backfired on him. For a guy who supposedly fights for money, and stated claims about how Pacquiao was this one dimensional and ordinary fighter,
he sure did back out pretty quick as soon as Pac said, "lets get it on then".
Ummmm, what? That is going down as one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. Yes they knew they could be tested at any time during their camp. That's the point. They know they could be tested at ANY RANDOM time, which deters them from breaking the rules. If they use, they run the risk of getting caught, because they could be tested at any time, and there is no way for them to plan their cheating around testing dates.
Random time goes before and after training camp and fight though.
What part of "random" don't you understand?
Its a year round process, not a selective one.
Floyd and Shane never did random testing.
At job sites where the policy is "random drug testing",
its year round,
not just the days you work.
Because Floyd's supporters in this matter are effing IDIOTS! :D
They say OST. OST is RANDOM all year.
What Floyd is insisting is his 'way' and Tygart's testing. This is a special testing procedures created for Tygart's client floyd.
These guys are too idiotic to comprehend.
I know, its just funny when I get to watch a dog chase its tail.
didn't arum say that floyd never acknowledge a 2nd negotiation?so how can u really negotiate a fight with a fighter without the fighter?
Floyd negotiates his own fights now?
So why deflect a question about who he'd like to fight next with this,
"Uh, uh, I let Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe conduct my bouts and we'll go from there".
Well, Pac didn't say, "let's get it on." He said, "I want 7 days."
Besides that, I don't give a **** about Floyd Mayweather. The reason I think Pac might be cheating is because he refused to participate in strict drug testing. It's as simple as that. There is no good reason to avoid it. It's safe and there are thousands of other people (athletes) that do it every year. Pac should have agreed to the testing if he's honest, professional and has nothing to hide. This is the era of cheating in sports. It happens in every major sport at the highest level. What Floyd asked for is considered the best testing program in the world. It is designed by the real experts, so I'm going to take their word and trust that it is the best testing program. What reason does Pac, or you, have to doubt that? Why shouldn't Pac do it, without a cutoff?
You nor anyone else can even explain why he needs to agree to any extra tests other than, "because Floyd thinks hes on something".
"lets get it on but no testing 30 days out.....no wait, no testing 24 days out....no wait, I want to fight! FULL RANDOM TESTING, I SWEAR!....no wait, make that 7 days out....i don't wanna fight."
You nor anyone else can even explain why he needs to agree to any extra tests other than, "because Floyd thinks hes on something".
:dance::wave:
Manny and Roach have both said that Tony was cheating before. Where/what is their proof of Tony cheating?
I'm not Manny or Roach, nor do I represent them.
Call the Wildcard gym if you're so curious.
Nope actually I'ma be supporting the Punisher-Martinez on hbo with modelo in hand!!U can take ur pinche whatever & shove it right up ur a$$ too!!:fu2:
and none of what you said refutes anything I just told you.
Cry about it.
no offense but pacquiao looked like that against marquez in their second fight
But thats normal for Manny.
Supposedly, Floyd is so good he never gets hit.
Blitz is notorious for being a retard over at InsideHoops. Heres his "retirement".
Dude is acting like what hes done is somehow something incredibly important. "Its time for me to walk away".
How many different ways can people find reasons to cry about this fight?
Its happening and there isn't a thing you can do about it.
I don't care what title its for, its going to be an awesome show. So while I'm enjoying the war, you're going to be sitting there all alone with your arms crossed, your bottom lip bulging out and steam coming out of your ears as you watch it on a stream.
Pinche chillones.
Why can't people just accept defeat? It'll be ok...
Defeat expected, and accepted, just showing a common theme when rican fighters get hurt.
Soon as a they get with a bomb to put them on queer street,
a foul big enough to stop the fight from continuing thus allowing important time to recuperate.
Just an observation.
Why can't people just admit it? It'll be ok.
And i guess marquez was trying to give Juanma a BJ because i cant think of any other reason why his head was always at Juanma's cup
Weeks did a HORRIBLE job yesterday for warning Juanma when Marquez kept ducking like that
Oh, you mean when Lopez continuously kept pushing his head down.
Yea, weeks did a horrible job of allowing that.
Top rank knows the fight is bull$hit,top rank is a promotion company so they are simply going to try their best to promote it!!It's in house,they are going to make loads of cash all the while laughing at the stupid boxing fans(us)who are allowing them to become greedier & richer while we pay for it,that's pretty smart!!
How are they any different from the promotional company Floyd fights for, GBP?
They aren't,never said they were!!I hope U didn't think U had a point somewhere,LOL!!
I don't recall seeing you **** on GBP fights.
You're just very upset that this fight is taking place, and that people are interested in it.
All you've been doing lately is trying to downplay it.
lol at this s hit.
Before, Margarito was a nobody who was a slow and plodding fighter with no technical skills.
Now, if he loses, its because the fight is fixed.
There are no bounds to the stupidity of Mayweathers.
All of the negative comments about Tony are reminiscent of the Cotto fight.
"Cotto has more speed and better footwork"
"Margarito is too slow"
"Cotto is the better boxer and has more skills"
"Margarito just throws wide looping punches"
Its gonna be incredibly hilarious if he wins again.
Floyd was when he came back to fight JMM, a longer layoff... yet some people on here were making out that he fought JMM to avoid fighting Manny straight away...
Floyd fought Manny?
When was this?
Sounds good,but u must realize no one thought that he'd man up,but Floyd did & beat the brakes of Mosley for 10 rounds,it is what it is!!
Yea, he "manned up" when Shane was in his late 30s.
How ****ing courageous.
The same people giving stick to Calzaghe for fighting Bernard and Roy at their ages,
love to give props to Floyd for fighting Shane at that stage.
Quite odd.
"Roy and Bernard were old and past their primes"
"Mayweather beat and dominated Mosley!!!!"