The first negotiation ended with Floyd bringing up the 14days cut-off.. Then all of you flomos in unison agreed with your god floyd that it was fair and logical enough, and anyway even the Usada itself ended the OSDT with the floyd/mosley fight 18days prior to the fight itself and that is for health reason.. Then in the second negotiation, I think team pacquiao were haggling for a 7 days cut-off atleast, i think it is due to ego and mind strategy that they are not complying fully at first with floyd but i also think if floyd really wants the fight to happen, he could have simply sit down again with team pac, re-negotiated and i guess manny doesn't have a choice now but to give in to no cut-off..
Now what i'm driving at, if Floyd really and honestly wants to beat down this one-dimensional, unskilled, easy work asian midget, why in the hell 7 days not good enough?!! In the first place floyd thus have all the advantages already in skills and physical size, so it's really quite surprising that floyd is the one requesting for additional drug tests... Now you tell me, drug experts why is 7 days not good enough?!!! Why is floyd keep on insisting for a no cut-off, what can you do in 7 days, how the hell can you cheat in 7 days?!!!
7 days i think is reasonable enough and i guess team floyd realized this and they know that if they push through with the second negotiation they have to agree to a compromise middle...
Negotiations are part of everyday life. You make offers and counter offers in job interviews, for example.
What I was saying is did the Floyd camp make any counter offer on Arum's camp 7 days cut-off offer? Was there any known official response from the Haymon camp? Arum, for example, gave a deadline for his offer. Did the other side just go on on a passive mode and just say, fukk you all, we're not interested. Is there no possibility at all that if Floyd was actively engaged in the 2nd nego, all of his demands would have been met?
Why would he take the deal off the table, announce that he's not budging on full random blood testing, and then make a counter-offer within what Koncz admitted, their seven day cutoff? Who is Haymon's camp??? I didn't know he had a corner and sparring partners.
If Mayweather was involved in talks, it would certainly be made as public as the first time around seeing that Arum was spewing out garbage left and right after the Mosley fight. Fact of the matter is that Pacquiao's camp didn't agree to full random testing and if they didn't do that from the initial jump, there wasn't feedback let alone an ear given. Is it that hard for you to process that?
Again, you seize to amaze.
Floyd negotiates his own fights now?
So why deflect a question about who he'd like to fight next with this,
"Uh, uh, I let Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe conduct my bouts and we'll go from there".
And Ellerbe wasn't part of negotiations. Maybe Al Haymon got the memo, but Mayweather was talking to Don King.
arum said NO ONE HEARD FROM TEAMMAYWEATHER
but lets see what the pacliars say
Hi yesir. Any more of your "second negotiation never took place" posts?
Thanks for bumping.
Floyd negotiates his own fights now?
So why deflect a question about who he'd like to fight next with this,
"Uh, uh, I let Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe conduct my bouts and we'll go from there".
atleast 90% of boxers deflect the who are you fightin next question.wasn't mayweather part of the negotiations the 1st time?did he himself not speak to arum and roach?yes, now in the supposed 2nd negotiations who from team pac spoke to floyd?
Negotiations are part of everyday life. You make offers and counter offers in job interviews, for example.
What I was saying is did the Floyd camp make any counter offer on Arum's camp 7 days cut-off offer? Was there any known official response from the Haymon camp? Arum, for example, gave a deadline for his offer. Did the other side just go on on a passive mode and just say, fukk you all, we're not interested. Is there no possibility at all that if Floyd was actively engaged in the 2nd nego, all of his demands would have been met?
didn't arum say that floyd never acknowledge a 2nd negotiation?so how can u really negotiate a fight with a fighter without the fighter?
Floyd negotiates his own fights now?
So why deflect a question about who he'd like to fight next with this,
"Uh, uh, I let Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe conduct my bouts and we'll go from there".
Thanks for admitting it did.
So now the impression is Floyd was never really interested in the fight.
Which is fine to me. No issues there, for me, at least.
Selective bold. Sheer ignorance, check... again.
didn't arum say that floyd never acknowledge a 2nd negotiation?so how can u really negotiate a fight with a fighter without the fighter?
Bricks don't understand. There's a force field where every piece of knowledge, every piece of evidence, and every fact drop dead, and it's at the "submit reply" button of your post.
Question remained unanswered.
Which is why I was asking another fanboy who Manny lied to when Queen Mayweather was not even involved in the process. The whole Mayweather camp even LIED that the 2nd nego didn't happen.
So now let's recap according to IMBIAZED and company:
Floyd was forced to go on vacation because he didn't accept the 7 days cut-off offer.
There you go. Be the judge.
Who's the dick?
Johnny - random drug testing til the fight
Jimmy - alright
Jimmy - uhhh, '47, 8oz. gloves, $10 million for every pound over '47
Johnny - Ok
Jimmy - Wait uhhh, random testing?
Johnny - Yes
Jimmy - No, I'm afraid of needles, superstitious, weak
Jimmy - Test before the fight and after
Johnny - random drug testing til the fight
Jimmy - uhhhh, 30 days from the fight and after
Johnny - 14 days from the fight
Jimmy - uhhh, 24
Johnny - No
Johnny goes and beats Joey, who everybody said Johnny was ducking and was scared of, with relative ease. Right after the fight with Joey standing next to him, Johnny says to the people that he'll fight Jimmy if Jimmy complies with random drug testing til the fight or no fight at all, just like him and Joey did.
Jimmy - 18 days
Jimmy - I agreed to all the testing Johnny wanted
Jimmy - 7 days
.......
I've just listed chronologically how this has all panned out since December of '09. As you can see, Jimmy has done more talking and was the last one to say a word. Whereas Johnny made it blatantly clear that he wasn't hearing anything unless it was random testing until the fight.
Observe the second part, guy. Has Johnny said anything? At all? Brick.
Dude, Bob has already admitted "Floyd was not ivolved" Bob was throwing false flags, he'd already set the stage for Pac/Marg......
If you already know 0 days is Floyds stand, what do we need to negotiate? The 2nd neg did take place, but not with Floyd. Bob needed to make it seem that way, but really he wanted another money grab... its pretty simple
Thanks for admitting it did.
So now the impression is Floyd was never really interested in the fight.
Which is fine to me. No issues there, for me, at least.
Question remained unanswered.
Which is why I was asking another fanboy who Manny lied to when Queen Mayweather was not even involved in the process. The whole Mayweather camp even LIED that the 2nd nego didn't happen.
So now let's recap according to IMBIAZED and company:
Floyd was forced to go on vacation because he didn't accept the 7 days cut-off offer.
There you go. Be the judge.
didn't arum say that floyd never acknowledge a 2nd negotiation?so how can u really negotiate a fight with a fighter without the fighter?
Question remained unanswered.
Which is why I was asking another fanboy who Manny lied to when Queen Mayweather was not even involved in the process. The whole Mayweather camp even LIED that the 2nd nego didn't happen.
So now let's recap according to IMBIAZED and company:
Floyd was forced to go on vacation because he didn't accept the 7 days cut-off offer.
There you go. Be the judge. Dude, Bob has already admitted "Floyd was not ivolved" Bob was throwing false flags, he'd already set the stage for Pac/Marg......
If you already know 0 days is Floyds stand, what do we need to negotiate? The 2nd neg did take place, but not with Floyd. Bob needed to make it seem that way, but really he wanted another money grab... its pretty simple
Question.
Do you now agree that the negotiations DID take place?
I could easily bump some post of yours denying that it did.
Question remained unanswered.
Which is why I was asking another fanboy who Manny lied to when Queen Mayweather was not even involved in the process. The whole Mayweather camp even LIED that the 2nd nego didn't happen.
So now let's recap according to IMBIAZED and company:
Floyd was forced to go on vacation because he didn't accept the 7 days cut-off offer.
There you go. Be the judge.
So now these madafkrs are saying the second negotiations DID take place. Which they have been denying fk knows how long. This is important because I get the impression from these madafkrs saying that Floyd went on vacation because he didn't agree to the 7 days offer. Which means if Floyd ACTIVELY participated in the negotiations he would have gotten what he wanted. These madafkrs have completely trashed the meaning of negotiation.
This is when the second negotiation took place....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkw3M3KD7Vw&feature=channel
Did you watch the Manny/Toney 24/7? If not, don't type anymore...
Just say your sick of 'em and you hate the guy. At least you wouldn't come off as "I give up because I'm getting outpointed on every forefront." Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen dude, you started the thread right?
Remember, it's Bob who was saying that.
Here's the article written by Kevin Iole revealing the testing dates for both Mayweather and Mosley along with Tygart's statement as to why they stopped testing so far out by stating that random testing is a "deterrent." That means that Mosley and Mayweather had to be on their toes at all times because, yes, USADA could show up 6 days before the fight and take blood if they wanted to. That also means they may not test for blood 30 days out (which would be a delight to these Jim-Jones like Pacquiao followers).
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-bloodtests052110
With that being said, if this was a complete role reversal, and Pacquiao requested Mayweather to agree to random testing, I'd be the first to get frustrated and wonder "why won't he just agree and test?" I wouldn't cry verbal assault from Pacquiao, I'd question why Mayweather wouldn't do it.
What Pacquiao and his legion of fans don't understand is that hey, Mayweather's taking the exact same tests you're taking. He's facing his fear of needles, he's risking his amount of energy, he's putting aside his superstitions, and he's facing whatever he has to face to provide those vials as well. It's not a one way street, it's not just Pacquiao only getting tested. I agree........
I remember this being said, but it was not WADA, it was comming at a time when Bob was trying to show why testing was bad....
Just anther excuse not to test.......
Valid but BS also
Remember, it's Bob who was saying that.
Here's the article written by Kevin Iole revealing the testing dates for both Mayweather and Mosley along with Tygart's statement as to why they stopped testing so far out by stating that random testing is a "deterrent." That means that Mosley and Mayweather had to be on their toes at all times because, yes, USADA could show up 6 days before the fight and take blood if they wanted to. That also means they may not test for blood 30 days out (which would be a delight to these Jim-Jones like Pacquiao followers).
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-bloodtests052110
With that being said, if this was a complete role reversal, and Pacquiao requested Mayweather to agree to random testing, I'd be the first to get frustrated and wonder "why won't he just agree and test?" I wouldn't cry verbal assault from Pacquiao, I'd question why Mayweather wouldn't do it.
What Pacquiao and his legion of fans don't understand is that hey, Mayweather's taking the exact same tests you're taking. He's facing his fear of needles, he's risking his amount of energy, he's putting aside his superstitions, and he's facing whatever he has to face to provide those vials as well. It's not a one way street, it's not just Pacquiao only getting tested.
Really buddy your IQ is about the same as your age 3.
Question.
Do you now agree that the negotiations DID take place?
I could easily bump some post of yours denying that it did.
So now these madafkrs are saying the second negotiations DID take place. Which they have been denying fk knows how long. This is important because I get the impression from these madafkrs saying that Floyd went on vacation because he didn't agree to the 7 days offer. Which means if Floyd ACTIVELY participated in the negotiations he would have gotten what he wanted. These madafkrs have completely trashed the meaning of negotiation.
Really buddy your IQ is about the same as your age 3.