KHAN is now talking to much ****... Peterson got caught, But Khan is still an over rated fighter just like Hatton... He truly wants to believe he's one of the greats but hasn't fought anyone to prove anything. He just makes excuses when he loses or doesn't perform good.
I am with Garcia's father, NO REMATCH! he lost badly, not even a close fight... if Garcia goes to England he will get robbed for his titles if it goes to a decision. Amir is just a B fighter not in the elite level...
Remove the knocked down that was a trip, and the point deductions... and If you go round for round scoring... it's a draw, it you look at the over all fight and judge, Peterson won... Peterson landed more power shots and cleaner punches in all the rounds he won... Khan won rounds cause he pitty pat and ran, holding Peterson's head down so he wouldnt get hit with the body shots. Khan had one clear round easily won, all the others were because Peterson didnt land as much but when he did land it was hard shots.
Canelo isnt worth PPV money yet, He hasn't fought nobody in there prime, Kirkland isnt worth PPV either... I understand Mexicans paying but anyone else with sense wouldnt pay to watch this fight.
you can hate a fighter, you can love a fighter... but facts are Pacquiao never knocked out Bradley, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, or De La Hoya, with one shot. He did Hatton but Hatton was a smaller fighter. Marquez has never knocked out a fighter with one shot in his career... He throws combinations and breaks down fighters for a knockout. 3 fights with Pacquiao not even a knock down with clean landed combinations. Yet This fight he had one shot power, Muscular, able to take straight hard left hands from Pacman, when he has gone down four times before...
to much evidence... trainer a steroid distributor, knows when and how to distribute the PED to pass test, Marquez Muscular in four months training, One shot knock out power at 39 which he has never had before, landed two clean shots both knocked Pacman down and out, in 3 previous fights not even a knocked down with clean combinations.
just evidence convicts you in court of a crime even if no one saw you do the crime... Marquez on someting...
evidence 1... Marquez fought Pacquiao three times and has landed clean over hand rights and combinations plenty of times, even when Pacman has just jumped in and never knocked Pacquiao down.
evidence 2... Angel Heredia has admitted that he has given PED to athletes and knew how to distribute the drug and hide it from test... he testified in the balco case.
evidence 3... Marquez came in looking bigger and more muscular then Pacquiao, and Pacquiao weighed 5 pounds more then Marquez.
evidence 4... Suddenly at the age of 39, Marquez develops the one shot power punch, which he has never displayed in any of his Professional Bouts. But landed twice in the 4th fight and both put Pacquiao down. That even Nacho has admitted to be shocked cause Marquez has always been a fighter to put combinations together and was never that one punch knock out fighter.
Marquez in his whole career was never big, muscular, a one punch knock out artist until this Angel Heredia came along, and he's not even a boxing trainer, he is a strength coach CAUGHT GIVING STERIODS TO ATHLETES! No fighter in the history of boxing develops power at the age of 39, everyone slows down, the power is not there anymore, all because of all the punishment the body receives of boxing. Case closed...
I am a Cotto fan, and Puerto Rican but Cotto would be destroyed by Canelo... Canelo looks like the most complete fighter right now... Floyd will NOT fight a young lion like Canelo... If he does and wins then you can say finally Floyd was the best in his time... but no Pacman fight or no fights with fighters that could be a threat then Mayweather will always be known as a cherry picker waiting for over the hill fighters to beat... Cotto has nothing to lose, he is at the down side of his career so to win makes him an all time great and to lose, people will say he was at the end of his career anyway. Martinez is the only one that can be a difficult fight but Canelo works the body well and will make Sergio slow down and even Knock Sergio out in the final rounds... I am a Pacman fan but the Pacman does not have 154 power, and like I said Canelo kills the body... so Pacman will have to use all his speed to get in and out like he fought De La Hoya, if not Pacman will lose...
when Pacman started boxing he was 16, now he is thirty something... at 16 I was 115 pounds, in my thirties I am 190 and I workout but I look like I am 170... Pacman at 16 was 109 pounds and now is 145 pounds... is sounds normal to me... I think Mayweather is just building a case, so when he loses he has an excuse when. Or he really does not want to fight Pacman and just found an excuse to not make the fight.
Mayweather vs Pacman happens if everyone doesnt order Mayweather fights when he fights bums... Then Showtime will lose money... just like in the Guerrero fight... Mayweather wants to take credit for all the buys for the Canelo fight but Canelo has a huge fan base... Mayweather is scared, He knows Pacquiao beat Bradley, and knows Marquez knockout was lucky... cause if he felt Pacquiao was over the hill, he would fight Pacman, not make excuse after excuse, and make up reasons why the fight is not happening... Ali, Robinson, Joe Louis, Leonard, Hagler, and Chavez never made excuses or avoided fighters... they all fought the best of the best in their primes and proved they deserve to be called greats. Ali didnt hide from Foreman after Foreman destroyed Frazier, Leonard didnt hide from Hearns, Duran, Hagler, all these guys fought each other in their prime, Robinson destroyed everyone in the welterweight that after being undefeated in over 100 fights he went up in weight to middleight just for the challenge.... Mayweather wouldnt fight Canelo at full fledge 154 after talking ****, saying he doesnt drain fighters...
50/50 is the right call, Mayweather says he's not the one ducking and claims Arum is looking for reasons to not make the fight happen. Now no 50/50, Come on... This is gunna be the fight of the century...
All I hear is more excuses... Boycott Mayweather fights and Showtime will be force to get the fight signed so they make money off the signing of Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't want to hear that showtime lost money on Mayweather fights...
I saw the replay yesterday and noticed... Pacquiao landed clean hard lefts that Marquez took, in the previous 3 fights put Marquez on his ass 4x. The only two clean punches Marquez landed knock Pacman down and out. Paquaio landed 47% of power shots, to Marquez 27%... If Marquez in the pass would have knocked out fighters with devastating right crosses before or at least put Pacquiao down with clean rights before, then there is no argument. Or if the knock out came with combination punches, like he has gotten knock outs before in his career there is no argument on the win. But at 39 towards the end of his career, alot more muscular, a trainer accused before for giving PED to his athletes, and admitted he knows how to hide from test. Suddenly one shot power punches... it's to coincidental... no fighter in history has gotten stronger, and gained more power at the twilight of their career... even Eric Morales said Marquez should thank his pharmacist for the win... lol
if Canelo fights Mayweather, the way He fought Trout, easy win for Mayweather... However, Canelo has alot more power than Castillo, and must use the same game plan... stick to the body, forget the top only after you through lefts to the body then double it up to the top... forget trying to hit Mayweather with right a cross, it wont happen, Mayweather's shoulder roll will defend it well... Use a Jab to keep Mayweather backing up to the ropes and patiently do work to the body with hard shots... looking for a knock out will lose the fight for Canelo...
No MMA fighter can fight a Boxer standing up, if a boxer can keep the MMA fighter at bay without being taken down... the MMA fighter doesnt stand a chance in winning... All the MMA fighter has is the take down and hold him down and hit the boxer with knees and shoulder shots... Look what happen to Silva an ex UFC heavyweight champion against an old as Ray Mercer... He attempted to box Mercer, One right cross put Silva to sleep in 10 seconds...
Both Pacquiao and Mayweather think they cant be touch or defeated... Both are overlooking their opponents and worried about each other. Lose focus and they both might end fighting each other with loses on their record and all the money down the toilet. Remember they are both in their mid thirties, and all greats have lost in their thirties after slowing down and being able to get hit.
Roy Jones Jr. at his prime at 154, 160 would defeat everyone who is considered an elite fighter today. Pac Man, Floyd, Cotto, Sergio Martinez... What happen to Roy was at his prime those weight classes had no real good fighters, so he went up in weight to look for challenges, and thought he was Super man, going up and down in weight classes... But on the subject... Floyd needs to fight Pacquiao... to be considered a great fighter... all the great fighters have lost, but what made them great, they fought other great fighters of their time... they didnt make excuses not to fight... instead they made fights happen... Ali, Frasier, Foreman, Liston, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, even Morales, Barrera, Pacqiao, they all fought each other in their prime even if it wasnt a sure win... Floyd hand picks fighters that are a sure win... he's not to sure of Pacquiao, therefore he makes excuses and builds obstacles in the negotiating table...
Robert got tired after just a few body shots Aydin landed if Aydin puts the pressure and works the body often he could have beaten Robert by KO in the later rounds, Robert is not a welterweight fighter, he is looking for paydays... Mayweather should fight Canelo or Pacquiao, and if he beats Canelo and Pacman, then you can begin to label him as one of the greatest, otherwise Mayweather is just a cherry picker who never took risky fights, and waited on fighters to be on the down side of there careers to fight them...
If you judge the fights between Pac man and Marquez, round for round, The first fight...Marquez, but the knock downs made it a draw... The second fight... Pacman... the knockdown made a difference... Third fight... Pacman... the rounds Marquez won he won with clean shots, and some rounds Marquez wouldn't fight unless Pacman initiated the action and chased him around... where you cant give him those rounds cause you have take the fight to the champion if you want those close rounds in your favor...
If you judge the fight as a overall fight without scoring round for round... First fight... Pacman... He knocked Marquez down three times, and won a few mid rounds, Second fight... Pacman... Had knockdown and chased Marquez around to fight... Third Fight... Marquez... He land the more power shots...
The first Fight... if there was a three knockdown rule the fight would have been over the first round... Second fight... Pacman chased Marquez... Third fight... Marquez was scared to initiate the action and stood away from exchanging and fought the whole fight trying to counter punch, which in 4 rounds it worked greatly to his favor... the other 4 where very close but you have to take rounds from a champion, cause close rounds go to the champ... 4 rounds Pacman
Castillo made the blueprint but no one follows it, you have to take Mayweather to the ropes and work the body, As he slows down, keep the body work going, then go to the top...Now that Mayweather is older He wont be able to run when he gets hit hard to the body like he did with Castillo.
Mike Tyson in his prime, before he went with Don King... would knockout both Klitschkos brothers out, they fight like mummys, Tyson's head movement and inside fighting with a left to the body and then followed by a left uppercut... Tyson made that combo infamous, no way the brothers would have a chance...
Boxing is about money and entertainment, it should go 50/50 both fighters generate 1.0 to 1.5 million buys on PPV, even people who dont watch boxing will order the fight. it's predicted the fight will generate 3.0 million buys and about 300 million dollars, if you was a fighter would you settle for just 40 million only, when the split could be 150 million for each...
If Mayweather Fights Guerrero, Then Arum story could be valid. Mayweather will not fight Canelo cuz its to much of a risk. And if they need a huge venue why don't they fight in Cowboy Stadium... I bet the place will be sold out to see Pacman and Mayweather...
the fight was very close, but the fact is that there were alot of close rounds, normally the close rounds go to the champion, Marquez did make it a fight, but cuz Pac didnt dominate and fell short of spectacular therefore everyone believes he lost, But Marquez didnt go after Pacquiao for the win, He wanted the judges to give him the fight cause he fought better than cotto, clottey, de la hoya, hatton, and margarito, You cant expect the judges to give you rounds that are very close, you have to take the fight to the champion, in the rounds Marquez won, he landed the clean punches, but that was only in four rounds of the fight, in the close rounds he waited to much and Pacquiao control the pace and was aggressive but a little wild, on the rounds Pacquiao won, Marquez was always moving back and trying to counter, Marquez wasn't landing his hard shots... So Pacquiao win cause he is the champion
Khan P4P? Yeah right
Khan's only real challenge was with Maidana, and when he couldnt handle the pressure, he ran and still was getting hurt while running... P4P Really? Khan is over rated just like His boy Hatton, Fighting no bodies, and trying to get a huge payday to then retire.
Promoters are there to make money, and protect there interest that is making them money, Arum protects Pacquiao, Mayweather protects his undefeated record cuz that is what is making him money, the moment he loses, that is it for him, Cause Mayweather does not make fights exciting to watch, people tune in to see his loud mouth lose... That why he always plays the bad guy role... and the reason He doesn't fight someone that is risky...
Canelo and Mayweather already broke the record for money in the Arena.. Marquez and Mayweather didn't... enough said, If Canelo goes in there looking for a Knock Out, he will lose by decision cause he will be countered the whole night. however, He is a threat to beat Mayweather, if he works the jab to back Mayweather up, and maul the body, hit the arms, shoulders body, only throw left hook to the top, Mayweather has no shoulder roll for the left. Now as Mayweather one of the best... Nah... He has only one credit for fighting a fighter at his prime and that was Diego Corrales.... thats it! He lost to Castillo the first fight, A draw with De la Hoya cause in that fight no one dominated rounds. Mayweather has fought... pass their prime fighters... De la Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Judah, Over rated fighters... Hatton, Ortiz, Baldomir, Guerrerro, Ducked everyone in their prime, Williams, Cotto, Mosley, De La Hoya, Kostazu, Margarito (even tho he turn out to be a cheat) Marquez was a legit win but out weighed Marquez by over 20 pounds... old school fighters fought the best even if they lost they fought the best at their primes
Khan is over rated just like Hatton... all English fighters are over rated, they just produce PPV money over seas, so these promoters push them as elite fighters... Khan hasnt beaten nobody worthy to mention, except Maidana... but Khan ran for his life so he wouldnt get knocked out...
it was a great punch JMM landed, but it is suspect that JMM was never able to hurt Manny in any of their previous fights... and the two best punches JMM landed both put Pacquiao down in this fight... even Nacho was shocked on the KO... BUT JMM hires a man that was caught selling steriods and knows how to hide the use of steriods when tested... Now JMM is now very muscular and has one punch knock out power? throughout JMM career he has never knocked a fighter out like he did Pacquioa last night. That put Pacman out motionless... it's suspect...
Berto is not a top Welterweight, He lost to an over rated Ortiz, and lost to Callazo but given the decision... And been caught doing steriods... so come on.... Guerrero is being over rated by Golden Boy cause they have no legit elite fighters so they create these wannabe's by putting them in fights with scrubs... They hyped up Ortiz, and he continues to get knocked out, Khan and he got knocked out, Now Guerrero, they haven't proved they are elite but Golden boy promotes them as they are, and they meet a real fighter they get exposed as frauds... They all call out Pacquiao, and Floyd, for that payday.... the real fighters are Pacquiao, and Canelo, Floyd don't accept any fights with fighters who are threat... He waits for fighters to be on the down side of their careers... He won't fight a fighter in their prime...
Martinez wants to fight smaller fighters but aint willing to go up in weight to fight... he fights at 160, but wont go up to 168 to fight, but yet wants 147 pounders to go up to atleast 154... Pacman barely makes 147, and Mayweather doesnt take fights with fighter who look to good to beat him.