You guys missed my point, because I was trying to say that this type of triangle theory DOESN'T work. The match-up of the two styles is obviously what makes the fight, and of course the weight matters as well.
but yet a later version gives pacquiao a run for his money in the 3rd fight which some say he won :sleeping: what does tht say about floyds skill leve he's just that good
I don't really believe it works that way. If you use that logic, then we could say Pacquiao is better than Floyd because he destroyed Hatton and Cotto.
Bradley vs. Khan. Bradley isn't worthy of a fight against Mayweather. He wasn't even worthy of the Pacquiao fight, as he was thoroughly outclassed in every department.
Understand that but the different versions of Oscar Hatton and Cotto made more of a difference to Floyd and Manny results than the styles did , Manny could not stop JMM or Bradley when they went up a division its got to make any reasonable fella ask then how does he stop Hatton Oscar and Cotto , your reaching if you think its styles and not the timing and CWs , its a pity Manny wont fight Cotto without a draining so we will never know , I would put quite a bit of real money on Cotto to win that fight at 150-154 , thats why I hope it happens because the hype BS around Manny will inflate Cottos odds .
This supports my belief that it is styles that make fights. Hatton and Cotto got stopped by Pacquiao mainly because they were willing to brawl with Manny, and that usually does not end well. They played right into his game plan. Manny DID stop De La Hoya because he was old and weight drained, so I am throwing that one out as any evidence. Marquez and Bradley are both smart fighters, and Manny did not put them away because 1. Marquez was looking to turn in into a chess match and not a brawl, and 2. While Bradley did eat some early shots, he was just looking to survive the rest of the fight. Neither men have been knocked out in their careers, so what did you expect?
You need to stop riding Mayweather so hard. He is one of my top 2 fav fighters, but he is NOT a knockout puncher. I admire what he does, but he will not put these guys to sleep like Manny does, simply because he is okay with cruising to a victory and taking minimal risks.
It's the best boxing game to date, but still sucks penis from a simulation point of view. They game still carries many of the problems of the past Fight Nights. First is that you are allowed to throw WAY too many power shots without suffering the consequences in stamina.
My idiot brother thinks he is the **** because he beats me throwing 100 jabs and 800 power shots. I, on the other hand, have actually trained in boxing and try to fight as realistically as possible. I throw around 300-400 jabs in a fight and land at around 50%. I employ every strategy of good BOXING that I understand, yet I still somehow always lose because of body spamming. This game is junk like all the other Fight Nights.
Let me see if I can explain this so you'll understand. It will be a near-impossible task, but I'll try.
Bradley gets his big break and the chance to fight Pacquiao and prove himself. He gets hyped up as the fight approaches. Suddenly, upset is in the air and if Bradley can pull it off, he literally becomes a star overnight.
Instead, 99% of the world sees him get his ass kicked. Even those who either picked Bradley or at least thought he had a good chance change their minds. Instead of being seen as a legitimate threat, in retrospect most people now think that they were wrong, and that 147 isn't well-suited to him and at best he's a solid B or B+ fighter. He still gets respect for hanging in there with Pacquiao and not getting KO'd.
But what happened? Despite it unfolding like that, Bradley actually gets the decision. This is actually the worst possible outcome for Bradley given the circumstances. Now everyone is too occupied talking about what a robbery it was to even give Bradley respect for hanging in their with Pacquiao. They don't even want to see the rematch.
If Bradley had won, he would have been a star. If he lost but hung in there, he'd get respect. Instead, he lost but won the decision. Everyone sees him as an illegitimate champion.
There's a reason the person most desperate for this rematch is Timothy Bradley. Not only is the rematch Bradley's biggest money opportunity, it's also his only chance at redeeming himself. If he doesn't get the rematch, he could very well be largely forgotten about. Pacquiao will go on seen by the world as the true winner, and will continue his career as if it never happened.
Do I like Bradley? I said so many times leading up to the fight. And while I believed that he would make it very difficult for Manny (which he ended up not doing), I didn't think he could win. The difficult fight I thought he could make it didn't happen. I saw close to none of the things that I thought Bradley could do to give himself a shot. I attribute this to simply being outclassed. It's a lot easier to do what Bradley does against the likes of Abregu and Devon Alexander than it is Manny Pacquiao, period.
Are you a troll? **** yes. Your other thread was a classic example of a troll thread. You asked the obvious bait-troll-question of why Bradley's trainer wasn't getting mad respect for Timmy B's glorious effort. Why? You know that the whole world thinks Timmy B got demolished. You wanted a reaction because you're a troll. Now GTFO, and stop being a useful idiot for Bob Arum and promoting a Bradley rematch fight for him. Don't you know that's what he wants? He wants people to be stupid enough to buy that fight. Thanks for helping him continue to ruin the sport.
I'm with this man 100%
Man, I wish someone could find the 24/7 theme that they use right before the fight. You can hear it in the Pacquiao/De La Hoya fight. It starts with a view of the vegas strip and you just hear bass or cello strings. Then the 808 claps come in. That would be the holy grail of theme songs.
Floyd Jr. is always talking about how he's gonna beat someone's ass. He only edged a split decision victory over De La Hoya. He certainly did not beat his ass from what I saw in the fight. It was a strategical boxing win and not some knockout.