Clottey and Mosley survived the whole fight versus Pacquiao, does that mean they did better than Cotto? GTFO man you know nothing about boxing. Cotto did more damage and more impressive work against prime Pacquiao in six rounds than Bradley did the whole night against a Pacquiao that was visibly no longer in his prime.
lol Cotto got spanked pretty well, and when he actually does land of course he will do more damage than Bradley because he hits a lot harder. Bradley fought a much closer fight, and he did it with a fractured ankle. No matter how insincerely people may believe Bradley is behaving now, and how obviously he lost, he did perform better against Pacquiao than a lot of top contenders that have fought him and would probably have gotten credit for it had the right kind of decision been handed down..
Never mind who you wanted to win. You need to be honest about who really did win.
I don't know that he IS lying personally, I think he may be convinced he actually won. Some people are not good at objectively evaluating their own performances.
He wasn't really "beat up" after all, he was just completely outfought. Pac landed the most shots and the most meaningful ones.
Let me see if I can explain this so you'll understand. It will be a near-impossible task, but I'll try.
Bradley gets his big break and the chance to fight Pacquiao and prove himself. He gets hyped up as the fight approaches. Suddenly, upset is in the air and if Bradley can pull it off, he literally becomes a star overnight.
Instead, 99% of the world sees him get his ass kicked. Even those who either picked Bradley or at least thought he had a good chance change their minds. Instead of being seen as a legitimate threat, in retrospect most people now think that they were wrong, and that 147 isn't well-suited to him and at best he's a solid B or B+ fighter. He still gets respect for hanging in there with Pacquiao and not getting KO'd.
But what happened? Despite it unfolding like that, Bradley actually gets the decision. This is actually the worst possible outcome for Bradley given the circumstances. Now everyone is too occupied talking about what a robbery it was to even give Bradley respect for hanging in their with Pacquiao. They don't even want to see the rematch.
If Bradley had won, he would have been a star. If he lost but hung in there, he'd get respect. Instead, he lost but won the decision. Everyone sees him as an illegitimate champion.
There's a reason the person most desperate for this rematch is Timothy Bradley. Not only is the rematch Bradley's biggest money opportunity, it's also his only chance at redeeming himself. If he doesn't get the rematch, he could very well be largely forgotten about. Pacquiao will go on seen by the world as the true winner, and will continue his career as if it never happened.
Do I like Bradley? I said so many times leading up to the fight. And while I believed that he would make it very difficult for Manny (which he ended up not doing), I didn't think he could win. The difficult fight I thought he could make it didn't happen. I saw close to none of the things that I thought Bradley could do to give himself a shot. I attribute this to simply being outclassed. It's a lot easier to do what Bradley does against the likes of Abregu and Devon Alexander than it is Manny Pacquiao, period.
Are you a troll? **** yes. Your other thread was a classic example of a troll thread. You asked the obvious bait-troll-question of why Bradley's trainer wasn't getting mad respect for Timmy B's glorious effort. Why? You know that the whole world thinks Timmy B got demolished. You wanted a reaction because you're a troll. Now GTFO, and stop being a useful idiot for Bob Arum and promoting a Bradley rematch fight for him. Don't you know that's what he wants? He wants people to be stupid enough to buy that fight. Thanks for helping him continue to ruin the sport.
I'm with this man 100%
http://rizpedocexperience.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/manny-pacquiao-post-fight-press-conference-video1.jpg?w=570
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Manny+Pacquiao+v+Timothy+Bradley+TY19B3jahdEl.jpg
Now, pictures don't tell the whole story but Bradley did jack **** to Pacquiao, period. Some of the early rounds did have favorable exchanges for Cotto, much more favorable than any damage Bradley didn't with his dainty little jab.
Because he got TKO'd you imbecile. Bradley was able to survive the fight but he definitely, definitely lost. The only people debating that are useful idiots like you who want to enable Arum to sell bull**** for the indefinite future.
Wait, did you get the news? Brandon Rios did beat Abril. Trinidad did beat Hoya. What are you talking about? Pro judges decided.
Dude, you're ****ing retarded, stop trying to hide it. What don't you understand? Doing damage to the opponent has nothing to do with the damage you receive. Do you get it yet? Jesus man, I really have to shake my head at how unimpressive your intelligence is. I thought you were a troll before, but apparently you're for real?
It's funny,you call me a troll yet respond to every one of my post..What does this say about you alt??
Anyway,this is old and Bradley is still Champ,Rios still has a victory over Abril and Hoya still has an L to Tito...You can't change it,it is what it is..Either get with it or GTFO here...:wave:
Get some work done on ya eyes if you really believe Cotto did anything to Pac..Damage,LOL..
http://rizpedocexperience.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/manny-pacquiao-post-fight-press-conference-video1.jpg?w=570
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Manny+Pacquiao+v+Timothy+Bradley+TY19B3jahdEl.jpg
Now, pictures don't tell the whole story but Bradley did jack **** to Pacquiao, period. Some of the early rounds did have favorable exchanges for Cotto, much more favorable than any damage Bradley didn't with his dainty little jab.
Oh boy,he did not win the fight..Cotto also did not put up a better fight..On this there is no debate..
Because he got TKO'd you imbecile. Bradley was able to survive the fight but he definitely, definitely lost. The only people debating that are useful idiots like you who want to enable Arum to sell bull**** for the indefinite future.
I don't know why Rios Abril keeps coming up,I did not think Rios won that fight..I did not think Trinidad beat Hoya..But guess what,I lived,and so did boxing..
Wait, did you get the news? Brandon Rios did beat Abril. Trinidad did beat Hoya. What are you talking about? Pro judges decided.
I don't understand your brain dead concepts..You saying a guy who looked completely mangled after his fight with Pac,to not only a guy who beat Pac..But exchanged with him and did not look any worse for the wear..Oh boy,:tapedshut...
Dude, you're ****ing retarded, stop trying to hide it. What don't you understand? Doing damage to the opponent has nothing to do with the damage you receive. Do you get it yet? Jesus man, I really have to shake my head at how unimpressive your intelligence is. I thought you were a troll before, but apparently you're for real?
Bradley got thoroughly outclassed. I'm assuming you think Rios out-fought Abril?
Hate to break it to you, but being dropped doesn't have anything to do with how much damage you were able to inflict before or after being dropped. Yes, Cotto did more damage. I'm going to go a step further than saying you don't know **** about boxing and say you apparently don't even know how to make sense of basic concepts.
Get some work done on ya eyes if you really believe Cotto did anything to Pac..Damage,LOL..Oh boy,he did not win the fight..Cotto also did not put up a better fight..On this there is no debate..I don't know why Rios Abril keeps coming up,I did not think Rios won that fight..I did not think Trinidad beat Hoya..But guess what,I lived,and so did boxing..
I don't understand your brain dead concepts..You saying a guy who looked completely mangled after his fight with Pac,did not do better then not only a guy who beat Pac..But exchanged with him and did not look any worse for the wear..Oh boy,:tapedshut...
Mosley and Clottey survived,but they did not win..Neither did Cotto..Bradley won and out fought Pac..Deal with it,stop being so azzhurt bro..
Bradley got thoroughly outclassed. I'm assuming you think Rios out-fought Abril?
So your saying Cotto who was dropped twice in the 2end rd did more damage then Bradley??This guy say's I don't know nothing about Boxing,LMFAO...Ok..:tapedshut
Hate to break it to you, but being dropped doesn't have anything to do with how much damage you were able to inflict before or after being dropped. Yes, Cotto did more damage. I'm going to go a step further than saying you don't know **** about boxing and say you apparently don't even know how to make sense of basic concepts.
What is the lesson in the outcome of the Pac vs Bradley fight???
What the judges say .... goes :booty:
Doesn't matter if a million people thought Pac won, doesn't matter what Promoters say, doesn't matter what sanctioning organizations say, doesn't matter how many polls are taken by HBO, nor the outcome ..........
All that really matters is who the judges say won the fight.
Bottom line if ever there was one.
Yeah so next time if one of your favorite boxers was robbed in one sided victory you don't complain because all that really matters is who the judges say won the fight, ok?
What is the lesson in the outcome of the Pac vs Bradley fight???
What the judges say .... goes :booty:
Doesn't matter if a million people thought Pac won, doesn't matter what Promoters say, doesn't matter what sanctioning organizations say, doesn't matter how many polls are taken by HBO, nor the outcome ..........
All that really matters is who the judges say won the fight.
Bottom line if ever there was one.
This^^^but azz hurt fans won't understand this fact...
Clottey and Mosley survived the whole fight versus Pacquiao, does that mean they did better than Cotto? GTFO man you know nothing about boxing. Cotto did more damage and more impressive work against prime Pacquiao in six rounds than Bradley did the whole night against a Pacquiao that was visibly no longer in his prime.
Mosley and Clottey survived,but they did not win..Neither did Cotto..Bradley won and out fought Pac..Deal with it,stop being so azzhurt bro..
So your saying Cotto who was dropped twice in the 2end rd did more damage then Bradley??This guy say's I don't know nothing about Boxing,LMFAO...Ok..:tapedshut
The Cotto that ran from Pac,where Pac had to turn to the ref to say I don't think he wants anymore..LMAO..Oh God..
This guy??You can't be serious...:sleeping:
:lol1: :owned:
What is the lesson in the outcome of the Pac vs Bradley fight???
What the judges say .... goes :booty:
Doesn't matter if a million people thought Pac won, doesn't matter what Promoters say, doesn't matter what sanctioning organizations say, doesn't matter how many polls are taken by HBO, nor the outcome ..........
All that really matters is who the judges say won the fight.
Bottom line if ever there was one.
The Cotto that ran from Pac,where Pac had to turn to the ref to say I don't think he wants anymore..LMAO..Oh God..
This guy??You can't be serious...:sleeping:
Clottey and Mosley survived the whole fight versus Pacquiao, does that mean they did better than Cotto? GTFO man you know nothing about boxing. Cotto did more damage and more impressive work against prime Pacquiao in six rounds than Bradley did the whole night against a Pacquiao that was visibly no longer in his prime.
You can post all the biased highlights you want, ive seen the fight numerous times and it wont change anything. Cotto did more against pac in the first 6 rounds than bradley did in the entire fight. And the kicker is, the success cotto had against pac was becauase he outfought pac, as opposed to bradley who only had success when pac wouldnt do anything. And keep in mind, cotto fought a younger, better version on pac. He actually fought all three minutes of every round.
Bradley...was competitive? Trololol.
If we are talking avout bradley vs. Air, then sure, he beat the air up pretty good. Cotto was alot more competitive with pac, and actually landed better leather on pac than bradley did, a younger pac at that.
The Cotto that ran from Pac,where Pac had to turn to the ref to say I don't think he wants anymore..LMAO..Oh God..
This guy??You can't be serious...:sleeping:
LMAO,you like Bradley!!!Oh boy the rest of your post can't be taking serious when you lie right off the back...You do not like Bradley and you did not think he would even be competitive..I have not made one thread on if Bradley won or lost(fuccking moron)..It is you who at every turn is complaining about Bradley winning a much deserved decision..
Bradley was not embarrassed,embarrassed was Cotto who was straight azz raped by Pac for 11 rds..Embarrassed was Khan being KO'd in the matter of secs or Clottey who held his hands in front of his face and refused to engage..My man I'm a troll but then you turn around and say dumb shhit like this..It's clear how butthurt you really are..Sad..
Bradley...was competitive? Trololol.
If we are talking avout bradley vs. Air, then sure, he beat the air up pretty good. Cotto was alot more competitive with pac, and actually landed better leather on pac than bradley did, a younger pac at that.
The very few people on the earth who think bradley won only have him winning by 2 rounds at most. The millions of people who think Pac won easy have Pac having won by 2 rounds at the very least and 11 rounds at the most.
So whatever way you look at it its looking its obvious.
The very few people who had TB winning, are floyd fans. Even Bradleys own fans dont think he won.
To me he genuinely feels he won the fight and that's actually conceivable, whether Pacquiao wants to the avenge the lose or not is up to him, but fact is the fight could have gone either way and Bradley got the decision. Many are gonna have to learn to accept that. It's like Mares-Perez 1, I thought Mares won but it was insanely close so I couldn't argue the draw, I thought Hopkins beat Calzaghe but it was insanely close so I couldn't argue the decision.
This fight was extremely close and because of Pacquiao's overwhelming fan base/ iconic-status many want to learn towards popular opinion as oppose to analyzing the fight. Bradley to me clearly won rounds 1,2,10,11,12, Lampley replayed the 7th round without commentary and many leaned towards Bradley in winning that round. For those who think it's inconceivable to score the fight for Bradley...you simply need to learn how to score, I'm sorry but that's the truth.
Preach brother...