"Floyd Mayweather Jr." got 247 Up and 66 Down.
Looks like we have a wiener. :rofl:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Floyd%20Mayweather%20Jr.&defid=2962727
I cannot see any reason for having Dempsey even in say a top 40 list and that's being generous, he has Bob Fitzsimmons at 63 who a lot of historians think have a legitimate argument for GOAT.
Charles, Moore and Ray Leonard are 99.9% of the time in top 20 lists and rightfully so, but Bert says different, you're going to take his word over the majority of other boxing historians ?.
Could cut deep into his list with most of the names on there but it would be a waste of time, it's already been taken apart by other historians and most of the time Sugar has no rebuttal.
Said this plenty of times, Bert definitely knows his stuff and he has more resources then most people but he puts it all to waste, he just tell the media what they want and that's it, he has gladly put all of his knowledge aside just for his own bias plenty of times in the past.
It's been well known for a long time that Sugars list is a train wreck.
Edit: Btw I'm not doing this to discredit Pac in any way, it just makes me cringe whenever someone brings up Bert's list as a credible source or try to use it as a final word, if anything it's an insult to say someone like Dempsey and Marciano are ranked above Pac.
Dayummm.. You seem to be very knowledgable in boxing. You're probably one of the 1%. :fing02: Do you have your list of ATG? Where will you put Mayweather and Pac?
If you honestly believe that you should check yourself before you wreck yourself, fool.
Coming in here with this garbage.
The fuck these bitches think this is?
Talking about best fighter in the world?
Go fuck yourself, son. This is the same joker who got outboxed by JMM, twice. Fuck out of here with that shit.
He ain't no more special than Chris John.
:lol1::lol1:
Thanks :), just re-read my posts, sorry if I came across a bit harsh lol, I've got strong opinions about Sugar is all.
Answered the question before, will just quote
Same goes for Floyd, I don't like rating current boxers on an all time level until their career is over.
Alright.. It's all good man. You're one of the most sensible posters here. Cheers!:beerchug:
Sugar is a media whore, his list is not very credible and has been made to look like a joke by people who question it.
Before people start *****ing I have always had this opinion, even before Pacquaio was on the scene.
1) Ray Robinson
2) Hank Armstrong
3) Willie Pep
4) Joe Louis
5) Harry Greb
6) Benny Leonard
7) Muhammad Ali
8) Roberto Duran
9) Jack Dempsey
10) Jack Johnson
11) Mickey Walker
12) Tony Canzoneri
13) Gene Tunney
14) Rocky Marciano
15) Joe Gans
16) Sam Langford
17) Julio Cesar Chavez
18) Jimmy Wilde
19) Stanley Ketchel
20) Barney Ross
That was his top 20 from a while ago, no Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Ray Leonard but he has Tunney, Marciano, Johnson and Dempsey there ?, and his list get worse as it goes further down.
Sorry, I'm not buying anything that comes out of this guy's mouth.
If you think this list is credible then are you saying that Dempsey and Marciano are greater then Pac ?
I am no boxing historian so I can't answer that question. But if he put Dempsey and Marciano above Pac he has his reasons. Bert probably knows more about boxing than 99% of the us here.
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m594/jadnat2k/Boxing/PacquiaoPunchesMargaritoB.gif
Damn! That was a perfect counter, elbow parry and 4 punch combo! :hail:
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
3 hours, 13 minutes ago
GRAPEVINE, Texas – In the days and weeks before he would fight Diego Corrales in Las Vegas in 2001 in the first major fight of his career, Floyd Mayweather Jr. railed against the evils of domestic violence.
Corrales was facing a prison term on charges of spousal abuse, and Mayweather taunted him about it relentlessly. He promised to defeat Corrales on behalf of battered women everywhere.
:lol1: :lol1:
He's selling these stuffs on his website.
http://www.floydmayweather.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mp_money_back.jpg
http://www.floydmayweather.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ilovemoney_front.jpg
:lol1:
i've laughed at way more fcked up jokes than this. see, when telling dead baby jokes, murder jokes, etc. you need to be aware of the delivery, timing, and your target audience to make them work. there are some unwritten rules like during the case of laci peterson, one week was at least given first before such jokes were made.
if i saw them do these parkinson's act at a bar or something, i would've been laughing with them, but elie's youtube channel isn't the right place for these kinds of stuffs imo, it's too mainstream for that and alot of people would be offended... not just pacquiao/roach fans, but margarito/floyd fans as well.
What? They f'kin loved it!:thinking: