who is bert sugar?
A storyteller that was always feathering the romantics of boxing, is the reason why his list is stuck in his past glory days, pre 1940 guys would have a very hard time surviving guys from the 70s to now, the sport evolved. The two Jacks 9-10 all-time on his list would get destroyed in the modern era.
I really wish mikey can do it. He will be on the level of Mayweather who is also a 5 division champion.
Yep Mikey can align on paper like Manny did , just play the Im so small I got to drain them, it worked for Manny it can work for Mikey, the only problem is Mikey is too proud to drain them for a fake win he wants to beat them fairly.
this is why being a 4 or 5 weight world champ doesnt mean much, hes a 4 weight world champ and hes not beat a world class fighter, thats the truth of it. and he wont beat a world class fighter at welter but that doesnt rule him out of picking up a belt
He would beat them with a Manny CW thats the bit you dont understand.
The rematch will do 2 million homes easy.
I just hope they stack the undercard this time.
Seeing as he already beat him Floyd would slaughter Manny in any negotiations, Manny better resign himself to getting something like 20%.
And besides that I dont believe Floyd will box again he is enjoying the good life too much and his body looks it, he aint coming back.
Lol Floyd made up a false steroid accusation to avoid the fight. Good point. Thanks for reinforcing my point. And if you don't believe it, go see who Floyd's strength and conditioning coach was for the Pacquiao fight. Come off it. Deep down you know the truth. Floyd always fought sure things. Stop kidding yourself
Are you a 2yr old lol, you even swallowed the shoulder BS , keep on keeping on you do the gullible proud.
The writing is clearly on the wall. Spence just fought in front of almost 50k people vs garcia. The money fight for pac right now is spence aside from floyd which isnt happening. So why fight thurman for way less money? Ill tell u why, Team pac understands he has no shot to win vs spence and since thurman is under al, its the smart move by team pac because he actually has a chance to win the fight vs thurman and again no shot vs spence.
This doesnt surprise me at all. Smart business decision by team pac
Wind the clock back and Manny was all over Thurman as soon as Keith looked like crap in his return fight, smart business is an after thought, picking the easiest title fight was priority, the money fight is Spence but they know they lose that and have a chance to beat Thurman, but they also can get the back fire effect as Keith gets motivated and gives him boxing lesson.
I bet Keith studies Floyds blue print like a surgeon watching another show how, just keep turning him and control range with a long reachy jab.
I feel Thurman will out box Manny and that the higher class and bigger fighter will show Mannys has been fighting B+ level guys to get here.
Danny G is no push over. You'd pick Mikey over Danny? You for real?
I think Mikey is too precise and Danny too flat footed, buttttttt I dont think Mikey should stay at 147 and 140 his his weight class.
Same as Mikey vs Pac Id rather it at 140 but Manny wont do that, its still an interesting fight as Mikey as a youngster gave prime Manny all he could handle in sparing, I wouldnt mind seeing Mikey vs Manny.
That's why floyd and other boxers think that what pac is doing is impossible. all boxing organization pick pac as the undisputed 2000-2009 FOTD because what he did that decade was impossible.
He did it via CWs , you keep ignoring the special Manny weights.
Manny has a asterisk over 95% of his WW fights, how do fight Oscar and Hatton at 147 and then demand 145 for Cotto in the same division.
How did he get to be bigger than Oscar on fight night, draining !
How do you duck Mosley begging for 144 and then after Floyd beats him and a draw say 147 is ok now.
How do you fight him for years and then have Marquez at 147 after saying how small you are.
How do you bring guys like Rios of a loss and Algeiri to WW when they have never been at WW.
How say Foremen was too big at 154 so you take a washed up WW at 150 for a 154 title.
There is soooooooo much BS thats going on with Manny and match making, if he was straight down the gun barrel like Mikey was against Spence Manny would not have got past Cotto and Oscar, dam Oscar at 154 would stop Manny .
Most every WW fight Manny has BS all over it.
The out of the slums story people hate with a vicious passion.
Mary Poppins was a better bleeding heart story lol.
Hype is a Pied Piper playing a tune for the masses, the slums have produced more great fighters than any other place on earth its no big deal lots of people with bad starts turn out good.
How about this BS Floyd is spewing that he wants a rematch with Pac? Is he an idiot for being a fickle pussay??
He dont want no rematch you dummy, he dont want too box anymore thats obvious.
Floyd wouldn't even mutter Manny's name before that KO loss.....that's the catalyst for the fight even happening. Don't play coy
Only an idiot believes that, Manny wanted nothing to do with PED testing and Arum never wanted his cash cow beaten before he could milk him right out.
Huh? It's you who is fragile. Keep ducking questions related to Floyd. Now since Floyd said he wants to fight Pac and it's on video. Does that make him a flaking biatch? Or at a list a BS liar? You keep harping Pac is BS what about Floyd? Or your mind only works one way? Think? :poke:
I think you've learned to accept floyd is all BS that it's a norm already. Double standard?
You bet you are :lol1:
Oh what's that?? Floyd wants a rematch??
It''s on VIDEO!!
OH SHYIIIIT!!!
Nobody really cares, as I said you are so fragile to anything Manny Floyd, youre one step away from the obsession that made Mark Chapman.
Lighten up a bit before you blow a gasket.
It would mean he beat just a top5 ww. Not a prime Pacquiao who was #1.
Prime Manny already been stopped, what we have now is mouth Manny calling out the best WWs and when they say bring it Manny runs away. He wants to talk big then walk the walk otherwise stop name dropping the top guys only to fight leftovers.
He cant have it both ways !
So Danny Garcia?
Garcia is fighting april 20 so when is this supposed to happen it wont be 8 weeks later.
Manny getting ready to fight a B grader again while promising to fight an A grader next, business as usual.
Well, Floyd c herrypickd pac, not far removed from ko loss to jmm. So let Pac cherrypick this one.
Pac s last 3 wins better than floyds last 3 wins that's for sure
You come up with the most retarded concepts, how do you say he was specifically picked coming of a ko loss, yet you know how many times Manny picked a guy coming of their career worst losses.
And this is the cancer that comes with every Manny fanboy, you lot have no idea of comparing them equally, everything you say Floyd does wrong Manny did the same thing MULTIPLE times.
Ive always said youre a bit off in the head Huey and nothing has really changed you still say the dumbest stuff day and day out.
Is Floyd that money hungry? Or is he having financial troubles?
Either way it's not a good look for him.
The flight was set a day ago, the meeting is hearsay and he leaves 7am.
You guys are chasing rainbows I doubt Floyd will box again, but if he did decide to fight a rematch he wouldnt do it for a cheque he has too much self pride for that, he would only do if he believe he wins it.
yeah but he wasnt going this hard though. he should have kept pushing for it after the fight. i just feel that now is kinda late to be doing all this.
It takes the heat away from saying he would fight Spence.
Manny is a politician and it shows.
to me, the greatest WW of all time is Pacquiao. If he had fought in the days with grainy video, he would be put on that unreachable pedestal all ancient fighters are on. We witnessed history during our generation, STILL witnessing it.
He would have had to fight at the full division weight, so no CWs for Manny means no big wins at WW, the master of weight manipulation wouldnt get away with in days past, they would say fck off with your BS Manny weight.
Isn't Floyd who was excited last December 2018 to rematch Pac. It's on video. So is he a dummy too?
Here's the clip Floyd excited to make 9 digit pay day. So what he's a BS mofo too?
Why are you so fragile ?
If mikey can win a tittle at 147 he will align himself with mayweather who is also a 5 division champion only.
Mikey could do it easy with a Manny CW to get 147, then he could find a shot WW that hasnt fought in years and CW them at 150 for a 154 belt to make 6 titles.
If your not quite up to it CW is the key, ask Manny he perfected the method.
If he fights, it'll be either a tune up (the opponents mentioned might be too difficult to qualify as a tune up for McGregor) or Pacquiao. If him or his team think that he needs credibility it'll be a tune up, if not, it's Pacquiao; either way, a Pacquiao fight is the main target.
The big Con is 175lbs and now you want Manny, the Con is a bum and should not get a fight with any top boxer to cash out on.
Little Floyd carried the bum and walked him down giving away 25+ pounds, Con is the biggest blow hard fake ever.
Robinson would beat up Floyd,, too big, too skilled, too powerful, too good.
The combination of size and skill would be too much for Floyd
And thats the biggest thing in all these mythical matchups with FM, they pick guys way outside of prime Floyd at his best weight, yet he is always against the prime much bigger guy.
Floyd 135-140 thats his best fighting weight then because he moved divisions so quickly give him his best skillset at that weight and thats prime Mayweather and he could beat anyone in history at that weight and by possible KO.
FM at WW and up was an extremely skilled little guy that beat power with skill, the caveat is there comes a point where the power and physical strength will overwhelm the skill, at the lower weights 140 and below he had KO power along with his skills.
henry armstrong did it with sugar ray, moore did it with ali, ali did it with holmes, larry holmes did it with mike tyson. ALL great fighters goes out on their shield. they go out on their shield taking on huge young challenges. they take on the next young up and coming fighters, they ALL do it. pac is following the foot steps of what every legend has done!
Hasnt done nothing but B graders yet, lets see who he fights before you start with the go out on his shield BS, if he gets into the real battle with a true elite WW he might quit on his stool like KT did, like Chavez did.
When was the last time Manny fought a genuine top 4 WW that was a true WW not coming from lower divisions. When ?
If Spence dominates Mikey he will near on kill Manny.
blah blah blah. manny just got off his contract with TR. what other top ww was there for him to fight when he was at TR? dont give me crawford when arum already came out and said he killed that fight.
he just align himself with haymon and took on broner and now he says he's interested in spence, so let's wait and see who he fights next before jumping the gun talking about "when has manny fought a genuine top 4 ww"...
well, when has the current top ww fought a top legit ww opponent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! spence is fighting mikey next and spence is suppose to be the top dog right now and you questioning when has manny fought a top 4 ww? fvvvck outta here with that bs boy!
Talk is cheap kid, lets see what he does , another B grade guy from lower weights or Spence if he beats Mikey, in the mean time he had and has enough time to beat Horn like an old school fighter would do, or continue to do a KT run from Phillips deal, like I said he might quit on his stool when he gets into a guy that just smashes him, and believe if Spence gets past Mikey impressively he will run Manny over like the terminator.