Usyk would beat the dogsh1t out of Bellew and Bellew knows it.
A 36 year old with a torn shoulder and torn Achilles fighting out of a hunchback stance had Bellew running for his life for 6 rounds.
I would shoot his ass because I'm not a G-string cuckold fanboy.
You on the otherhand would let him creampie your wife and lick up the residue.
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A for effort,,, F for wisdom
F for being a racist F10wmo, yall just jealous that Kell could score a beautiful blonde chick as his wife! you thought only black guys could pull that off huh?
hot damn!
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:haha: P4P was invented to compare smaller fighters with bigger ones and give them their credit.
Rocky was a heavyweight so there was nowhere for him to move up to. :pat:
This whole P4P thing is a mythical, subjective concept created to defend smaller fighters. In a real fight, the big guy crushes the little guy, period.
Fact is, there is only one "heavyweight champion of the world." As much as we can admire the little guys, the heavyweight champion should be the king of boxing.
Titles are much easier to win now and jumping divisions is hobby for many top fighters. How many lineal titles/fights has Floyd won or fought in? That is more accurate than winning a 1/4 or 1/5 of a title if you count the Ring belt.
Exactly :) Moving up divisions nowadays is much easier than it was in the 1950s. Everyone is a damn "multi-division" champion now smfh :(
Different eras, p4p mayweather is great no doubt but rocky fought at Heavyweight so the p4p argument doesn't work. Gotta go with the heavyweight champion.
People judge fighters P4P that's how it is and will continue to be. If it wasn't like that every ATG would be a HW.
The reality is, heavyweights will have bigger legacies than the smaller fighters.
I'm not saying little guys don't deserve respect, but people around the world of all ages know the names of Tyson, Ali, Louis, etc. Very few people outside of boxing know the names of Robinson, Willie Pep, and yes, Mayweather.
The majority of the population wants to know who the Heavyweight champion is. He doesn't want to debate with you on a mythical "p4p" list about guys half his size.
Heavyweights command more respect, and rightfully so, because being heavyweight champion means that no one on the damn planet can beat you in the ring.
Being more popular doesn't make you P4P a greater fighter. Most boxing fans have SRR as the greatest fighter ever and he isn't a HW.
The p4p list is subjective. The heavyweight champion isn't. When you say "the greatest", most people actually immediately think of Muhammad Ali, not Robinson.
Absolutely, that is respect. I'm glad he did so. Good for Mayweather to show respect like that. Really, that's very noble. Hat's off to the man.
The only thing is, why did he do so many other jack ass things along with it? Sleeping with T.I.'s wife and the domestic abuse charges?
Rocky was class all the way.
To be honest, as a person Floyd always struck me as a bit of a fake, despite his skills in the ring, hence why the inconsistencies become noticed. Rocky was always a stand up guy, so there were no inconsistencies. Rocky was definitely much more of an inspiration than Floyd was and had a much more meaningful legacy, but people nowadays don't seem to care about these things.........
I never gave a damn about the color of a fighter's skin color until people like Dontae Williams and Larryxxx wouldn't stop making race an issue...... they claim they are "fighting racism", but in reality:
1). They are often far more biased then the people who they claim are racist
2). They're the ones who keep bringing race into boxing discussions
3). Now they claim anyone who doesn't support black fighters are racist and DKSAB and are "DCAF"s.... WTF?
Honestly I'm sick of it. I'm half white half japanese and my favorite fighter of all time is Tyson, and second favorite is Ali. I was not a fan of Floyd Mayweather's approach to the sport because I feel boxing should be about entertainment, not "health comes first" and "money", and I also feel his career is overrated.
But that makes me a RACIST???? Wow....... Listen up douchebags, if a fighter has no shame about acting like an ass outside the ring and doesn't put on exciting fights in the ring, people are not going to like him, period. Now if you have a guy like Anthony Joshua who KOs guys and yet remains respectful, people (including me) are going to love him, period. It has nothing to do with race. It's called human nature.
People who keep bringing race and nationality into boxing are either racists themselves or extremely insecure and think that when a fighter of their race wins it somehow makes them superior. It's pathetic, it's childish, and it shows that you have a lot of self-pity. Stop crying racism every time someone doesn't like a fighter you like. The same goes for the other side, but it's usually people like Dontae who start the divide.
People like Dontaesboxingnation and Larry obviously have deep issues with racism and self-image in real life. Hey, we all have issues but don't bring that into boxing and then call yourself a true boxing fan. If you're a true boxing fan, then enjoy the sport and leave all that other sh1t out the door.
Most people don't even fvcking notice a fighter's race until you guys keep making it an issue.
Btw, I think Ward beats Kovalev.
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Time for all of us to put this crap to an end and just enjoy the damn sport.
I never gave a damn about the color of a fighter's skin color until people like Dontae Williams and Larryxxx wouldn't stop making race an issue...... they claim they are "fighting racism", but in reality:
1). They are often far more biased then the people who they claim are racist
2). They're the ones who keep bringing race into boxing discussions
3). Now they claim anyone who doesn't support black fighters are racist and DKSAB and are "DCAF"s.... WTF?
Honestly I'm sick of it. I'm half white half japanese and my favorite fighter of all time is Tyson, and second favorite is Ali. I was not a fan of Floyd Mayweather's approach to the sport because I feel boxing should be about entertainment, not "health comes first" and "money", and I also feel his career is overrated.
But that makes me a RACIST???? Wow....... Listen up douchebags, if a fighter has no shame about acting like an ass outside the ring and doesn't put on exciting fights in the ring, people are not going to like him, period. Now if you have a guy like Anthony Joshua who KOs guys and yet remains respectful, people (including me) are going to love him, period. It has nothing to do with race. It's called human nature.
People who keep bringing race and nationality into boxing are either racists themselves or extremely insecure and think that when a fighter of their race wins it somehow makes them superior. It's pathetic, it's childish, and it shows that you have a lot of self-pity. Stop crying racism every time someone doesn't like a fighter you like. The same goes for the other side, but it's usually people like Dontae who start the divide.
People like Dontaesboxingnation and Larry obviously have deep issues with racism and self-image in real life. Hey, we all have issues but don't bring that into boxing and then call yourself a true boxing fan. If you're a true boxing fan, then enjoy the sport and leave all that other sh1t out the door.
Most people don't even fvcking notice a fighter's race until you guys keep making it an issue.
Btw, I think Ward beats Kovalev.
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Time for all of us to put this crap to an end and just enjoy the damn sport.
I'd put my money on Hagler for all 3 fights, althought he's lost twice and drew twice to fighters who aren't better than GGG, Ward or Kovalev.
Those losses happened early in Hagler's career and don't mean anything. Hagler at his best was in a different league to GGG.
GGG may have trouble catching Brook clean, but the problem is even grazing shots from GGG will seriously hurt and wobble Brook. The guy really is that strong. People say he hits harder than Kovalev.
Of course they mean something. If they dont mean anything none of his wins mean anything either.
Does Pacquiao's loss to Singsurat and Torrecampo decades ago mean anything today? It doesn't. TS asked for Prime Hagler, not Hagler early in his career.
Of course they mean something. If they dont mean anything none of his wins mean anything either.
TS asked for Prime Hagler, not Hagler early in his career. Does Pacquiao's loss to Singsurat decades ago mean anything today? It doesn't.
The styles here favor Khan who does well against pure boxers, but Crawford has a berserker mode that he can activate at any time to hurt Khan.
Pick em fight.
Beats all of them
He beats them all. Spence is an unknown quantity but right now Crawford would take him into deep waters and drown him.
Garcia - easy target for Crawford, UD 12
Thurman - too sloppy at times and lax, another decision
Porter - smothers his own work but gives Crawford the most entertaining fight due to his style imo, Crawford by a 8-4 type decision
I feel like people are going too far now. Yes Crawford looked sensational against Postol, but Thurman and especially Spence are different animals.
Thurman is extremely fast/athletic himself and Spence is an absolute Monster at close range when he mauls you.
Garcia would get undressed in the ring by Crawford though.
Now that I think about it, Crawford and Thurman actually have somewhat similar styles. Both are lean guys who can move around the ring and have great reach, and both are very explosive. Difference is Thurman hits harder while Crawford is more complex.
Would love to see Crawford vs Thurman. :boxing:
Spence aint even close to being at the top level, the big boys at 147 are:
Bradley
Brook
Khan
Thurman
Porter
And maybe Pac if he comes outta retirement.
Sadly, it's a given the bradley fight won't happen and fights with those Showtime kids ain't happening either.
LOL at Khan being at the top level, the dude struggled with Algieri who Spence destroyed. And Bradley has done nothing in recent years other than get whooped by an old Pacquiao 3 times.
Spence or Thurman would put both these guys to sleep, lets get real now.
1. Crawford DESTROYS Danny "Gift" Garcia and humiliate him, that's for sure.
2. Thurman and Porter are toss-ups.
3. Spence would be too strong for him.
Thurman, Porter, and especially Spence will probably be just too big and powerful for Crawford. The wolves at 147 make Postol look like a lamb in comparison.
Crawford should only move to 147 if it's Danny Garcia or Broner.