How would Hagler do vs GGG/Ward/Kovalev?

Sorry but I can't take you seriously when you say things like that. I figured that's where you'll go. I won't waste my time trying to prove my point. Myths get perpetuated easily on NSB but often they're disconnected from reality. "Golovkin is there to be hit" is one of them. Take a look at some advanced stats, and rewatch the first 2 rounds of Golovkin fights. When he's feeling the opponent out, he generally absolutely stifles them. Do some research for fun. You'll be surprised at what you'll actually see and read.

Sorry, dude, I absolutely disagree. I've watched several of Golovkin's older fights, and he fights perfectly well when moving backwards, as well as fighting on the inside. Not displaying it in his recent 10 fights and not being good at something are two completely different things. People have short memories and see what they want. Here's an example: in 2012 and 13, he fought behind his jab a lot. In 14-15 he used it sparingly, mostly counter-jabbing, and people forgot about his jab. Then they saw the Lemieux fight and went 'holy sh1t that's the best jab in boxing today'. As for pure boxing skill, IMO Golovkin is better than Hagler. His defense is great-to-elite, his reflexes are faster and his punching repertoire is greater. I truly believe that the deciding factor will be that reach advantage that Hagler has. Sorry but I can't take you seriously when you say things like that.

Golovkin would have no chance of outboxing Hagler. Golovkin doesn't fight well moving backwards and he doesn't fight well on the inside either. Two things Hagler did very well. Hagler also had the faster hands. So that leaves Golovkin with no options other than to knock Hagler out which would not happen. Sorry, dude, I absolutely disagree. I've watched several of Golovkin's older fights, and he fights perfectly well when moving backwards, as well as fighting on the inside. Not displaying it in his recent 10 fights and not being good at something are two completely different things. People have short memories and see what they want. Here's an example: in 2012 and 13, he fought behind his jab a lot. In 14-15 he used it sparingly, mostly counter-jabbing, and people forgot about his jab. Then they saw the Lemieux fight and went 'holy sh1t that's the best jab in boxing today'. As for pure boxing skill, IMO Golovkin is better than Hagler. His defense is great-to-elite, his reflexes are faster and his punching repertoire is greater. I truly believe that the deciding factor will be that reach advantage that Hagler has.

Hagler beats GGG. We'll see what else GGG can show before his career is done. Hagler loses to Calzaghe via UD in a close fight. Hagler loses to Ward in a close competitive fight. Hagler would be crushed by Kovalev... All would be terrific fights, but you're putting Hagler against two ATG super-middleweights and an absolute beast in the Light Heavyweight division. Tall order, even for someone as great as Hagler. In Hagler's time the last three would've been light-heavies.

Hagler wasn't even a big MW himself, I'd still pick him over Calzaghe and Ward. I just think it'd be more of a determent to Hagler if he put on a lot of weight against those two over night. He should go in light. Kovalev is much too big. Golovkin can't stand in the pocket or outbox him so how exactly would be compete?

I think he beats them all. The only one who would give him problems is.. Calzaghe, and I know that's not a popular choice. Ward's too cerebral and doesn't move enough. Hagler would not respect his power, and would stalk him to the end. He'll lose the first few rounds, then either wear Ward down or catch him and KO him. I don't think Kovalev has the skill to hang with him. He'll eventually go into a shootout and lose badly. Golovkin would drop a decision. I don't think he would trust his chin enough, and would try to outbox Hagler.. and he would stand a good chance at outboxing Hagler, except that Hagler's short stature and very long reach would give Golovkin fits. So either Golovkin will be on his backfoot, giving up 5 inches of reach, and drop a decision, or he'll go into an all out-shootout with Hagler, and IMO would lose. Calzaghe had such high workrate and had a great, great motor. He's really a pain in the ass to fight because he throws so many punches and moves so much. It can be close and go either way, but I think Joe would throw 500 punches more than Marvin and get the decision. Golovkin would have no chance of outboxing Hagler. Golovkin doesn't fight well moving backwards and he doesn't fight well on the inside either. Two things Hagler did very well. Hagler also had the faster hands. So that leaves Golovkin with no options other than to knock Hagler out which would not happen.

I think he beats them all. The only one who would give him problems is.. Calzaghe, and I know that's not a popular choice. Ward's too cerebral and doesn't move enough. Hagler would not respect his power, and would stalk him to the end. He'll lose the first few rounds, then either wear Ward down or catch him and KO him. I don't think Kovalev has the skill to hang with him. He'll eventually go into a shootout and lose badly. Golovkin would drop a decision. I don't think he would trust his chin enough, and would try to outbox Hagler.. and he would stand a good chance at outboxing Hagler, except that Hagler's short stature and very long reach would give Golovkin fits. So either Golovkin will be on his backfoot, giving up 5 inches of reach, and drop a decision, or he'll go into an all out-shootout with Hagler, and IMO would lose. Calzaghe had such high workrate and had a great, great motor. He's really a pain in the ass to fight because he throws so many punches and moves so much. It can be close and go either way, but I think Joe would throw 500 punches more than Marvin and get the decision. Golovkin would have no chance of outboxing Hagler. Golovkin doesn't fight well moving backwards and he doesn't fight well on the inside either. Two things Hagler did very well. Hagler also had the faster hands. So that leaves Golovkin with no options other than to knock Hagler out which would not happen.

Hagler knocks GGG out about round 6-7. Ward may survive 12 but he hits the deck a couple times. Kovalev is a Hearns situation.....It could go either way in a brutal war. Calzaghe is the only one I see winning in a war of attrition.

Why do you say that, I think he beats Golovkin but he wont have his chin out there on a plate for Hagler to take advantage of. Hagler went the distance with much lesser fighters than Golovkin. He also KOs Kovalev? Where is your reasoning for this? Why isnt he Koing Ward? Don't you understand why? It is not only skin color, it is also the latest "cold war" mentality rebirth. Anyone associated with former Soviet Union is unworthy and shall be punished by association. Which is why Golovkin not just KOd but "brutally" KOd. It is pointless to have rational discussions with such posters. They are the part of "demographics"

Hagler losses.

Hagler would smash wards face in first round, K.O. golovkin by round 5, BUT lose to Krusher in a humbling TKO round 3.

Kovalev and Ward beats him, but he beats Golovkin.

LOL I didn't realize i had been sig'd...........wow LOL not everything is about you dude........ Plenty of people have said Hagler landed too many body punches for Leonard to get a decision.

Hagler beats GGG, Calzaghe, and Ward. Kovalev might be too big. Hagler probably loses a UD, but I wouldn't count him out.

A prime Marvelous Marvin would murder the bums.Today's era is lame compared to back in the day.And you know this.

At the time they fought Hagler was 32. "Old" Leonard was 30. Hagler was deadly in rematches so Leonard refused to give him a rematch. Leonard landed 306 of 629 punches (49 percent), and Hagler connected on 291 of 792 (37 percent). The split decision in favor of Leonard was very controversial. Judge Jose Guerra's score of 118-110 in favor of Leonard was heavily criticized. "JoJo Guerra should be put in jail," Pat Petronelli, Hagler's co-trainer, said. Harry Gibbs of England was originally scheduled to be a judge, but the Hagler camp objected. They said they believed English judges favor boxers and requested a Mexican judge, so the commission replaced Gibbs with Guerra. Watching the fight at home two weeks later, Gibbs scored the fight for Hagler. After the decision was announced, Leonard told the crowd that he would see them "six months and fifteen pounds later," implying that he would next fight WBC Light Heavyweight Champion Thomas Hearns. Leonard later said he "was only joking." Bob Arum and rival promoter Don King, who was just a spectator at the bout, got into a shoving match when Arum prevented King from entering the ring after the fight. They were separated by security. "That man had nothing to do with this fight," Arum said. "There was no way he belonged in the ring." On May 27, 1987, Leonard announced that he was going back into retirement, but he left open the possibility of another comeback. "You guys know me," he said. Leonard would return to the ring the following year to fight Donny Lalonde for two titles. "I told you guys some time ago I was going to try to retire," he said to the press. "I tried. It didn't work." On July 2, 1987, sports anchor John Dennis of WNEV-TV in Boston reported that Hagler was involved in "widespread abuse of both alcohol and cocaine." Dennis went on to say: "Those closest to Marvin Hagler say it was that decision on April 6 that started him on the downward spiral. Almost immediately after his return home to Boston, they say Marvin's despair over the loss steered him toward alcohol and cocaine." The following day, during an interview with Dennis, Hagler denied the allegations. "I want to reassure the public I have no problem with drugs or alcohol," Hagler said. He suggested that jealousy within his family was responsible for the report. Hagler announced his retirement after watching his half-brother, Robbie Sims, lose to WBA Middleweight Champion Sumbu Kalambay by a 12-round unanimous decision on June 13, 1988. Unlike Leonard, Hagler stayed retired. He moved to Italy and acted in several action movies. There was talk of a rematch, but it never happened. Seth Abraham, who was president of HBO Sports, said, "Marvin made it very clear — he thought he was jobbed and he was never going to fight again. And he never did. There were conversations, but they were never at the level of negotiations. If people say Marvin wanted the fight and Ray didn’t, that’s revisionist history." Hagler vs. Leonard was named Fight of the Year and Upset of the Year by The Ring. The fight was later named Upset of the Decade..... Hopefully you can finally accept the truth ...also hagler retired on June 13th and Leonard vs hagler was April 6th....he sure did wait around for Leonard to rematch him ? 9 weeks init lol Hagler was knocked down by juan roldan....a punch landed as hagler went down and that is classed as a knockdown

At the time they fought Hagler was 32. "Old" Leonard was 30. Hagler was deadly in rematches so Leonard refused to give him a rematch. Know your history bolio.....hagler never asked for an immediate rematch...hagler ran to Italy and started acting and his wife divorced him due to marital abuse and alcohol problems....the rematch theory has been built up out of nowhere and it's a figment of fans imagination and I can prove your theory wrong ....hagler never hung about for a rematch and pretty much ran away from the sport.....I'll dig out the proof bolio just to show you who's the man who knows the most lol

That would be funny to watch..... but Hagler was robbed against Leonard IMO. How does a champion land that many clean body punches and lose the fight? There was no robbery in that fight...close fight with Leonard just winning more rounds than hagler....a robbery is when Holyfield got the draw against Lennox lewis after being dominated in MSG ...... Hagler beats calzaghe comfortably , triple GGG needs a defining moment before we judge it , ward beats him UD and kovalev possibly stops him very late

I think he would have fought to a draw with GGG. He would KO Ward and outpoint Calzaghe. He would lose a ud to Kovalev who is just too big and powerful for him. That's my opinion. I respect the opinion of all others. I don't give a rat's ass if others disagree with me as I am sure many will. what does golovkin do to fight to a draw with hagler? what game plan is he going to use.........

GGG knocks overrated Hagler out in the first round. He would lose to all 3 he had a hard time with an Old Sugar Ray LeonardAt the time they fought Hagler was 32. "Old" Leonard was 30. Hagler was deadly in rematches so Leonard refused to give him a rematch.