There is no reasoning with them, truly
Like you wanna talk boxing and all they want to do is talking about who is more gay for who.
And you know its the truth, especially when it comes to GGG because most GGG people respect what Canelo brings to the table but take a far more objective look.
Talk to most Canelo fans and GGG is a straight up bum with no skills.
Seriously GGG pisses off all the black posters just because hes "white" and triggers near damn all the "mexican" posters because they're all hard for Canelo.
And its like bro. GGG is a legit talent who has a complete different skillset than Canelo. He also didn't have A side backing his whole career and started at 26 instead of 15 as a pro.
But those are things they openly brag about. Seriously, boxing breeds and attracts certain kinds of fans. Literally bottom of the barrel kind of ****.
Huh? Man some of y'all need to go back to school lol. Reading comprehension is not y'alls thing. Like 4th grade level stuff, and you guys can't master it. Absolutely pathetic
I said the only inside fight GGG has had was vs Ouma. He was good enough there, but yes it was only Ouma. I also said Ward doesn't really fight like that. Derp
I can't believe literally how ****ing ******ed some of these people are. They're literally bottom of the barrel kind of ****.
There is MUCH more tribalism on here, supposedly a hardcore boxing site, than I anticipated. It has been sad, but enlightening, to see. Just how people operate, I suppose.
One would think that to 'hype' up your guy, you would give immense credit to any opponent he fought. How can one, for example, hold Canelo so highly, when they slight GGG so much - the same GGG who they will sometimes admit beat Canelo in one of those fights, even in their eyes.
I don't even care about the fanboying anymore. It's the dumb comments that irk me - sig below related.
I feel the same.
I just think its so funny. Theyll cry all day about how everyone hates their race and its so unfair and blah blah
But yet
They are some of the absolute most racist people you'll ever meet and the worst part is they are ignorant to their own racism
Bazooka boy sits there and tells some Latino fan that you should only support Latinos because at thr end of the day other races don't care about you
Then you see Goldie, BigDunn, BoxingIsGreat, and others whine about white supremacy and how no one likes black fighters blah blah blah...
Yet name some of the most iconic boxers ever? A majority of them are Black!
You see Mexican and black fans go at each other like when Bidness goes on his anti black crusades but then all of a sudden their best friends when it comes to hating white boxers.
Legit instead of watching the and enjoying the technicality of it they'll just be like, I want Canelo to fight the oldest possible version of GGG so Canelo can knock him out.
That's disgustingly. That's no different when Clarissa Shields brother attacked her opponents trainer. They think they're hood but they're really ****ing losers with an agenda
Imo I'm not really a fan of his style and as good as he is I think hes pretty overrated.
Is he top 10 p4p? Yes, but I struggle to put him at the top because of his relative less than stellar resume and in the fights I have seen him, most of which took place at 147, he hasnt looked that great.
I personally thought klakdjjrnkeksd (however you spell his name) did a fine job of mixing it up with crawford. Klauseijejsus imo looked like a younger little GGG in there and gave Crawford problems.
I dont think it went like Crawford said. Even if he was trying to please the crowd he didnt throw any spectacular punches that landed while getting hit flush a ton of times including that knockdown that wasnt counted. Klauskkekdle only started to fade because if I recall he got hit with a hook to the temple and he started to gas out.
I think this is it for Crawfords limit. He already dismissed any plans of moving to 154 and rightfully so.
While hes a pretty big guy and could fight higher his style doesnt allow him to. It's a lot different fightin guys who are a few inches shorter than you and you have a SIGNIFICANT reach and weight advantage.
This fight here has really made me question how good he actually is.
Oh yeah. You beat crawford by disrupting his pace. You take someone like Lomachenko and sit him in front of Crawford I bet he has a really bad time. After getting hit and not hitting anything money is that Crawford gets reckless. He eats shots from weak opponents better ones would capitalize on.
Or someone like GGG who has a chin and is relentless to the point where you cant breathe.
Crawford likes to be the bully. You beat the bully by being a bully.
I told you once but I’ll tell you again
Where’s the fughin proof that , I’m seeing it the wrong way , of course again according to you
Fugh you and fugh GGG
I ain’t no fughin fan of his or that other fughin **** you call Floyd
At least I’m man enough to give Floyd credit where credit is due
But I ain’t sucking nobody’s fughin **** as opposed to you who’s been on your fughin knees for so long , you don’t know what up is
Now prove to me what your accusing me of and when you can’t then I’ll let you off your fughin knees
All you are is a fughin platform warrior , you come here telling people how and when but it’s only according to you
You punk azz biatch , less than fughin zero , man with no fughin balls
It’s easy to spit chit out when no one is in front of you , just your mother’s fughin basement and your fughin keyboard ,
Punk azz biatch
I bet you’ve never stood up for yourself even when you were fughin right , just scared to fughin catch it but you know what , had you caught it and you were right , many more people than the ones who opposed you would respect you
Hey J fughin Razor come see me when you decide to get out of momma’s basement
Better make sure she doesn’t throw you out early cause amphibian chit like yourself will have no where to run
It’ll be elementary and high school all over again
Remember that
Fughin punk
Anytime you wanna step up azzhole , now man up and get that fughin plug out of your azz
They’re gone douche!!!
No need to keep it longer than needed
Pofs
Accusing without facts
Bring it and I’ll kick your *****y little azz
J razor truly is the saddest little b.itch on the internet. I would beat his stupid ***** ass too but he only has the balls to run his mouth when hes being protected by a screen.
Like the guy under you said just ignore the old man. He ain't ever gonna fight you because hes a PVSSY.
He loves to call GGG PVSSY G.
So yeah, let's refer to him as Pvssy J. Pvssy J is weak as ****.
what does race have to do with this thread? can you answer the thread question?
You'll be banned if you ever write this type of BS again. You are the definition of a passive aggressive racist from just this post. Have some self-respect.
"All the black people." What are you talking about? Where are all the black people here? If you have an issue with the TS, address him.
Go fuck yourself otherwise.
Let's start with this. I'm asian and were a smaller minority than you black people but you dont see me or any other asian, or hell, any other race race bait as much as you guys. Are all of you that bad? No, but please, during my time here I've seen plenty from both of you. I wasnt ****ing born yesterday.
Pssh. Threaten me with a ban. Do you think I'm scared? I'll speak the damn truth every single day even if you dont want to hear it and even if you dont want to pretend it's real bud.
Yeah get ready to pull that race card and put it right damn back in your pocket.
You honestly think you're so damn slick but being a minority living in America just like you guys I know all the damn tricks of the trade.
Too bad I'm not a white guy so you can pull out all the big guns HUH? It's a lot tougher to lie to someone who knows the damn truth and some of you guys cant handle that can you? Is that why you're so offended?
You ask dumb ass questions that have clear answers. Then under you damn breathe you'll want to mutter something like "it's because hes BLACK! Did I mention I wasnt born yesterday?
Let's take an example
Why did Lomachenko get a title shot in his 2nd fight and no black fighter in theirs?
Tell me man. I've heard this take over and over and over.
Some of you just cant just accept that some guy, regardless of skin color, was able to negotiate a title shot in his 2nd fight because of his own hard work. Some of you think its because hes white. Quit lying.
Then in the exact same breathe complain how a ****ing 20 year old prospect is the ****ing boogeyman and all Lomachenko fans are afraid if him blah blah blah and that hes his mandatory blah blah blah
When in reality Haney is a good prospect who didnt even win his world title. Hes also NOT Lomachenkos mandatory. There are also better fights available.
The Big Dunn, who've I've seen more than one person call a black supremacist agrees with Larry and let me guess, yourself. Let me ask you. Would you trust a white supremacist? Then why would you trust someone people refer to as a black one eh?
Must be a tough life when you're taught to self victimize yourself just so you can use your race card to win arguments.
My race card? I threw it away because I didnt need it.
They say all it takes is one punch.
Wilder is literally a one trick pony and that's not bad especially if he keeps winning. Hes the literal definition of having a "punchers chance ".
More Bumlovkin excuses and apologizing. The fact of the matter is, your hero was prepared to fight lessor fighters @ 168 but needed a 164lb catchweight when Andre Ward's name was brought up. That's what I call a blatant duck. Only thing missing is the sauce.
My hero?
Lmao. Please don't clump me in with losers like yourself who need to live through other peoples accomplishments to feel good about yourselves
GGG is not my hero. Hes just a guy who boxes. That's pretty different from how you feel about Canelo isnt it? Lmfao.
All you loser Canelo fangirls are the same. If you feel threatened you cry. Same **** here. You're so stupid you cant even see it which is hilarious? Dont like something that's true? Fake news. Fake news. It's not true. LMFAO.
Did Ward refuse to fight GGG in 2013? YES fake news!
But GGG ducked Ward right?
When ward wanted the fight in 2015 and it didnt happen who did he fight? Real killers didnt he? Fake news!
But let's ask, why has have you given Canelo a pass on his last 10 fights by having weight clauses? But the ONE time GGG wants it oh, hes trash. Fake news! Canelo never drains or weight bullies anyone! Fake news!
Or even, did you forget that SOG also offered to come down to 160 for Mayweather? Why not 160 for GGG? Fake news!
Lmfao. What a ****ing loser you are.
I'll throw you a cookie.
Who did GGG duck from 2012-2016 that was 154-168?
Please answer. I cant wait to trash your response and show everyone just how stupid you are. I literally cannot wait so hurry.
so wining titles at LMW WW MW and LHW is living up to expectations? come on dont make your post comedy.
not canelos fault that GGG started so late and left it till 35 to win a title in the ring.
lets just respect what GGG did from age 35 to 37. and what canelo did age 23+, give them equali non bias.
How can you objective compare careers when one guy started much later?
That's an apples to oranges comparison. At 24 GGG was already at MW and a man. At 24 Canelo had grown from a boy into a man.
Why not respect what both men have done their whole careers?
When I think of people who didnt live up to their careers think of Adrien Broner or Mikey Garcia. Thanks.
Don’t mix facts with your opinions, you’re right it’s a fact canelo got popped for cien... it’s also a fact that he got popped after the first fight, and before the second which was cancelled and he enrolled in vada 365 and kicked ggg ass so bad his own trainer admitted it, and he made ggg walk out the ring and gave none of his fans an in ring interview. Those are all facts... another fact, canelos career and resume and accomplishments are all greater now at under 30 then gggs ever will be. Facts
Its funny how you think enrolling in a clean program after you get caught makes up for it. Like oh, the befenits you received go away because NOW you wanna be clean.
So you're wrong here.
It's also funny how you think a trainers words actually dictated the fight. When Mayweather Sr told Jr he was losing to Pac was he losing?
You're also wrong here.
And Canelos achievements under 30 will always be better than GGGs because GGG turned pro at 24 and Canelo turned pro at 15.
15 years vs 6 years to accomplish the same goals. I wonder who's gonna have more?
Canelo also had a much better promoter and fan base than GGG all because hes Mexican and GGG is Khazanistan or whatever.
So yeah, what are you trying to prove by saying under 30 but its ****ing funny.
It's like if I defended GGG by saying his achievements over 30 prove he's better than Canelo.
So in the end you just prove you're a stupid fan boy who uses imaginary rules and opinions to shape you bias.
Canelo had a better promoter and started pro younger. If he didnt have a better career than GGG under 30 he would be trash. All hes done is live up to his expectations.
Canelo>ggg period
And of course ped enhance performance I never said it didn’t. I said that canelo was clean when he beat ggg. That he enrolled in 365, you said that because he enrolled didn’t mean he didn’t reap benefit from prior use, I said there isn’t anyway you can prove he did or didn’t. What we know to be facts is he was enrolled in 365 and best ggg. Facts
Also canelo > ggg ever will be facts
Not very smart are you
Lmao.
I cannot prove he had any gains from using performance enhancing drugs?
Lmfao. Then why did he take them? Lmfao. Yeah, a high profile athlete didnt benefit from the use of a performance enhancing drug.
Literally after getting by far the biggest gift of his career he tests positive. I wonder why? After being humiliated in front of the eyes of his own people and booed endlessly.
So it doesn't matter if he was clean when he beat GGG because dude is still a drug cheat.
Lmao. Humiliated so hard by your own hypocrisy and too stupid to come up with anything original you have to copy me! Lmao!
You say that behind a keyboard??? WOW U tough.
Bro why you trying so hard to save face lmao.
You're about as tough as Larry and Larry's a tough guy lmao.
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Lmao. Were already at two so what now?
For a boxing fan you should know age and fitness matter. Unless you're the cool guy that brings backup or weapons because you're insecure about yourself?
But nah. Go to the thunderdome. There you can be real tough fat boy.
I don't think Fury by KO but I suspect most peoples reasoning is that Wilder doesn't have that strong of a chin himself.
Fury hit Wilder with some good shots the first time around and since hes heavier this time a round it makes sense that its it's possible.
Fury could probably KO AJ. I think none of the top guys have a truly solid chin, but again they're fighting at HW. Anything can happen.
It does hold more weight considering you’re out power punching a supposed power puncher... so if that’s not impressive. How about the fact that canelo reduced the Power puncher to a jabber? Either way you see it, it looks better for canelo then ggg
And there you go. Read the bold.
Continued proof that people dont know what the **** they're talking about.
Oh yeah, let the narrative of the fight dictate who the winner was instead of the fight in the ring.
Yeah, Mikey Garcia didn't take an L against Spence. He got a W. Spence couldnt knock Mikey out so Mikey won.
That's your ****ing logic in a nutshell.
Shut your dumbass up! Why you so emotional little girl... I said what I said and it doesn’t mean I meant what you “think” I meant dumb phuck. If you can’t conversarte like an adult, stfu... i never said because canelo out power punched the “supposed” power puncher meant he won, I said it looked better for canelo than it did for ggg... stop being so emotional you phucking phag
Lmfao. Who's the emotional one? Let's not be dumb Robi. Just because you don't have the intelligence to connect the dots doesnt mean other people cant.
Let me ask you who do you think won in Canelo vs GGG?
Oh that's right, you think Canelo won.
Because of power punches.
Lmfao. Because in your eyes it looked better to out punch a supposed power puncher.
Or was it based on how their faces looked? You tell me.
What I can tell you though is that the MAJORITY disagrees with you. Both fights. I can literally prove this.
You want me to shut up because I speak facts lmfao. I want you to shut up because YDKSAB but keep pretending you do.
Your account not that knew?? But now you pop off at the mouth!
You don’t know sht about boxing and unlike you I back it up punk
Your wife can jack me off with the right southpaw
Lolololololo
I already threatened to beat your ass a few years ago and you went silent. You're from Las vegas. You think how much you can gamble make you tough LMAO.
Remember, Mikey garcia was so good. He would whoop LOMACHENKO EASY but nah, hes daring to be great instead LMFAO
Old men like you dont even have the balls to put up so shut your ****ing mouth. 1 fight here in the whole damn existence of this site.
Post a pic of yourself old man. I wanna see how fat you are or how much you're willing to lie.
Nonsense.
He could have had the Ward fight and the Lara fight back during the time when he was allegedly "ducked". Instead of taking those fights he preferred to continue on knocking over random TOMATO CANs...
Lmao.
He could of had the Ward fight? In 2013 Ward was at 168 and didnt want GGG. Then in 2015 having not even fought at 168 once since declining to fight GGG, its GGG that is the one ducking the bigger guy? Especially a guy who just was fighting at 175?
In what world does someone call someone two weight classes below you ducking?
Then he could of had the Lara fight?
Probably not. Lara would have done NOTHING for his profile especially at that time. Lara is still making pennies and STILL at 154.
Lara has STILL beaten nobody. How does that help GGGs career? GGG had much better options than Lara who isnt in his weight class but you guys just love to regurgitate **** you hear and speak it as truth.
Why I need to post a pic??? You 1st! Make sure you show up at the next Canelo fight... I'll be there
Lmao.
And then what? See how fat and old you actually are? Feel bad for wanting to beat you up?
Cant beat you up because of crowds?
Ookay.
Well I mean race has a lot to do with it clearly...those who aren't white, by and large don't like GGG and really seem to feel very threatened by him/his success...I think a lot that feeling threatened had to do with his style, which was not a slick hit and not get hit style...but a seek and destroy style.
They have to try to marginalize him because they personally feel threatened seeing such a dominant style in a white fighter...especially when he/his style are being contrasted to other fighters/styles from other groups - black, hispanic etc.
Basically, as many things are, it's all about race really...but race can be a good unifier for people as well, and can cause people from similar backgrounds to have an easy common bond, even if they know little about each other...so I don't really think that blaming everyone on 'race' and making it out to be the bad guy all the time is very worthwhile either.
It's just fandom man...and in fight sports 9 times out of 10 people will back their own race vs that of another...in GGG's case, other races felt threatened by him because of his style and dominance so they feel/felt compelled to try and marginalize him as much as possible...that's more or less the truth, but most of them will never admit that obviously.
Dude the bold. So truth.
Weight Clauses at 154
Weight Clauses at 155
Weight Clauses at 160
Weight Clauses at 164
Weight Clauses at 168
Weight Clauses at 175
Greatest Boxer Alive!
End thread/
:usa:I mean anyone that keeps it real knows who won those 2 fights with Canelo though...fair to say GGG didn't dominate in those as much as he was expected to, but he still won...to anyone just scoring the fights and not scoring for who they like better.
Again fair to criticize GGG for not quite doing as much as expected vs Canelo twice, and even Jacobs and SD...but the dude was/is obviously a great fighter...even fools should be able to see that.
Id reply to the trash but I'm honestly not liking to waste my time with trash.
Like for real. GGG beat no HOFs?
Well how many HOFs were at 160 when GGG was there?
Literally you have 2012, when he arrived in the states until Canelo in 2017.
Have them pull up anyone from 154-168 and no one called GGG out until at least 2016 or he beat them.
Ask them what ATGs were at 154-168 in that time? Because the answer is literally ZERO.
Maybe theres Cotto but Cotto was old and isnt an ATG at MW and he blatantly refused to fight GGG.
And they cant even say Andre Ward because Ward was a not HOF before Kovalev and he was at 175.
So who? Literally anyone worth a name ducked GGG and everyone else got beat.
Spin in how ever you want, that’s not what I said
That's exactly what you said.
Word for word. It's not like I cut and edited what you said.
You're just too stupid to understand that that is exactly what you said. It's okay though. Most people are smart enough to realize their own biases.
If someone out punches a power puncher it doesnt mean they won, yet there you were proclaim exactly that.
It's more than proof you DKSAB
It's just like saying since GGG didnt KO this person he lost because GGG is such a killer.
Oh wait. You guys also say **** like that too. Lmfao.
Too funny. How does it feel to be so stupid you arent smart enough to realize it? Must be fun.
I am a fan of canelo and I admit he popped dirty. He popped in February didn’t fight ggg till September. He was also enrolled in 365 so those are facts, the opinion that you made insinuating that he won’t reap benefits because he is enrolled and clean is just that, an opinion. You can’t prove that he would get benefit or not, everyone is different and everyone’s body is different. Fact is he enrolled and was clean and beat ggg. Those are facts, also a fact that if canelo retired today his legacy and accomplishments are better and greater than ggg’s ever will be, the fact that you have to defend ggg career by bringing up age and he went pro at this age and this and that just makes you sound like the fanboy you are calling me. lol, look I’m not bashing ggg I’m just stating facts, I’m not defending canelo I’m just stating facts. You can say or think how you want but nothing changes facts. Fact is, canelos career right now is greater than gggs ever will be... EVER! if that fact hurts you I’m sorry not sorry. Everything else is pointless...
Canelo>ggg
And always will be...
Spoken like someone who has never participated in a sport or was ever athletic in their life. How old are you old man?
I dont know the benefits of PEDs but they're banned for "some reason" and as someone who is he same size as Canelo and played a variety of sports in my life
Boxing
Wrestling
Tennis
American football
And that's just a few
I don't know if he benefited from use. Lmfao. Ask ANY strength coach lmfao. Ask anyone in sports. Athletes don't take drugsfor no benefit.
And.
Let's address what I bolded in your comment. I never defended GGG by saying such. What I was doing was MOCKING you with your own hypocrisy lmfao.
You seem to age and accomplishments are so important and I mocked you. You then proceeded to call me out for doing exactly what you did. I wasnt serious. You were.
Lmfao. Not very smart are we?
Typical Bumlovkin nuthugger nonsense.
Bumlovkin was ok with fighting Baby Chavez and Retired Froch @ 168 but - for some unknown reason - needed a 164lb catchweight for Ward?
I wonder why.
Lol...
Yeah.
I wonder why.
Maybe it's because Ward sent that offer to GGG when GGG had already made a name for himself in 2015 and was already in talks to unify with David Lemieux. They literally sent it when negotiations were done. Funny timing huh?
Who's the bigger star at that point? GGG with HBO backing.
Maybe it was because Ward had already declined to fight GGG in 2013.
Maybe it was because Ward couldnt even make the weight. What weight did Ward just fight at? 172. Oh that's right.
Maybe GGG didnt care to fight Ward because GGG know Cotto/Canelo was around the corner and they offered a much bigger payday and legacy fight than Ward?
Lmao and for someone to be complaining about catchweight you sure do you Canelo dont you?
Only guy with weight clauses at
155 "Canelo weight"
160
168
175
Lmfao. Rag on GGG for wanting overhype chavez at 168 but praise Canelo for catchweight if 164.
Lmfao. I love the double talk. Too stupid to realize your criticisms leveled at GGG fit Canelo perfectly. You hate GGG for wanting a catchweight but love Canelo when he wants one. Too funny.
Its literally like you losers claiming GGG ducked Andrade and Charlo when both of those guys never fought in the same division as GGG until 2016 when GGG went Jacob's, Canelo, Vanes. Canelo
But give Canelo a pass for not fighting them when they were in the same division for YEARS.
I remember you ghost when times get tough.... And put $ to mouth your all deep throat
Lmfao. That's the best you got?
If you were gonna lie and be full of **** at least make it funny fat old man.