How do you motivate yourself against an almost deadbeats (eg kell brook)?
not saying kell brook is a deadbeat, just wondering how one keeps up the motivation to fight so many one after another LIKE Kell does.
I wouldnt be able to get excited for them opponents who are there to fall over.
How can you objective compare careers when one guy started much later?
That's an apples to oranges comparison. At 24 GGG was already at MW and a man. At 24 Canelo had grown from a boy into a man.
Why not respect what both men have done their whole careers? i do respect them both from the moment they won a title form another man, or even a vacant belt.
age 35 for GGG,that is, Canelo i think 24?
thats my respect, well doen to those guys, proved they were world level in these fights.
Lmao.
I cannot prove he had any gains from using performance enhancing drugs?
Lmfao. Then why did he take them? Lmfao. Yeah, a high profile athlete didnt benefit from the use of a performance enhancing drug.
Literally after getting by far the biggest gift of his career he tests positive. I wonder why? After being humiliated in front of the eyes of his own people and booed endlessly.
So it doesn't matter if he was clean when he beat GGG because dude is still a drug cheat.
Lmao. Humiliated so hard by your own hypocrisy and too stupid to come up with anything original you have to copy me! Lmao!
Believe what you want, but you can’t change the fact that canelos career and legacy is greater than ggg. Fact
Canelo>ggg period
And of course ped enhance performance I never said it didn’t. I said that canelo was clean when he beat ggg. That he enrolled in 365, you said that because he enrolled didn’t mean he didn’t reap benefit from prior use, I said there isn’t anyway you can prove he did or didn’t. What we know to be facts is he was enrolled in 365 and best ggg. Facts
Also canelo > ggg ever will be facts
Not very smart are you
Lmao.
I cannot prove he had any gains from using performance enhancing drugs?
Lmfao. Then why did he take them? Lmfao. Yeah, a high profile athlete didnt benefit from the use of a performance enhancing drug.
Literally after getting by far the biggest gift of his career he tests positive. I wonder why? After being humiliated in front of the eyes of his own people and booed endlessly.
So it doesn't matter if he was clean when he beat GGG because dude is still a drug cheat.
Lmao. Humiliated so hard by your own hypocrisy and too stupid to come up with anything original you have to copy me! Lmao!
Spoken like someone who has never participated in a sport or was ever athletic in their life. How old are you old man?
I dont know the benefits of PEDs but they're banned for "some reason" and as someone who is he same size as Canelo and played a variety of sports in my life
Boxing
Wrestling
Tennis
American football
And that's just a few
I don't know if he benefited from use. Lmfao. Ask ANY strength coach lmfao. Ask anyone in sports. Athletes don't take drugsfor no benefit.
And.
Let's address what I bolded in your comment. I never defended GGG by saying such. What I was doing was MOCKING you with your own hypocrisy lmfao.
You seem to age and accomplishments are so important and I mocked you. You then proceeded to call me out for doing exactly what you did. I wasnt serious. You were.
Lmfao. Not very smart are we?
Canelo>ggg period
And of course ped enhance performance I never said it didn’t. I said that canelo was clean when he beat ggg. That he enrolled in 365, you said that because he enrolled didn’t mean he didn’t reap benefit from prior use, I said there isn’t anyway you can prove he did or didn’t. What we know to be facts is he was enrolled in 365 and best ggg. Facts
Also canelo > ggg ever will be facts
Not very smart are you
so wining titles at LMW WW MW and LHW is living up to expectations? come on dont make your post comedy.
not canelos fault that GGG started so late and left it till 35 to win a title in the ring.
lets just respect what GGG did from age 35 to 37. and what canelo did age 23+, give them equali non bias.
How can you objective compare careers when one guy started much later?
That's an apples to oranges comparison. At 24 GGG was already at MW and a man. At 24 Canelo had grown from a boy into a man.
Why not respect what both men have done their whole careers?
When I think of people who didnt live up to their careers think of Adrien Broner or Mikey Garcia. Thanks.
I am a fan of canelo and I admit he popped dirty. He popped in February didn’t fight ggg till September. He was also enrolled in 365 so those are facts, the opinion that you made insinuating that he won’t reap benefits because he is enrolled and clean is just that, an opinion. You can’t prove that he would get benefit or not, everyone is different and everyone’s body is different. Fact is he enrolled and was clean and beat ggg. Those are facts, also a fact that if canelo retired today his legacy and accomplishments are better and greater than ggg’s ever will be, the fact that you have to defend ggg career by bringing up age and he went pro at this age and this and that just makes you sound like the fanboy you are calling me. lol, look I’m not bashing ggg I’m just stating facts, I’m not defending canelo I’m just stating facts. You can say or think how you want but nothing changes facts. Fact is, canelos career right now is greater than gggs ever will be... EVER! if that fact hurts you I’m sorry not sorry. Everything else is pointless...
Canelo>ggg
And always will be...
Spoken like someone who has never participated in a sport or was ever athletic in their life. How old are you old man?
I dont know the benefits of PEDs but they're banned for "some reason" and as someone who is he same size as Canelo and played a variety of sports in my life
Boxing
Wrestling
Tennis
American football
And that's just a few
I don't know if he benefited from use. Lmfao. Ask ANY strength coach lmfao. Ask anyone in sports. Athletes don't take drugsfor no benefit.
And.
Let's address what I bolded in your comment. I never defended GGG by saying such. What I was doing was MOCKING you with your own hypocrisy lmfao.
You seem to age and accomplishments are so important and I mocked you. You then proceeded to call me out for doing exactly what you did. I wasnt serious. You were.
Lmfao. Not very smart are we?
Its funny how you think enrolling in a clean program after you get caught makes up for it. Like oh, the befenits you received go away because NOW you wanna be clean.
So you're wrong here.
It's also funny how you think a trainers words actually dictated the fight. When Mayweather Sr told Jr he was losing to Pac was he losing?
You're also wrong here.
And Canelos achievements under 30 will always be better than GGGs because GGG turned pro at 24 and Canelo turned pro at 15.
15 years vs 6 years to accomplish the same goals. I wonder who's gonna have more?
Canelo also had a much better promoter and fan base than GGG all because hes Mexican and GGG is Khazanistan or whatever.
So yeah, what are you trying to prove by saying under 30 but its ****ing funny.
It's like if I defended GGG by saying his achievements over 30 prove he's better than Canelo.
So in the end you just prove you're a stupid fan boy who uses imaginary rules and opinions to shape you bias.
Canelo had a better promoter and started pro younger. If he didnt have a better career than GGG under 30 he would be trash. All hes done is live up to his expectations.
I am a fan of canelo and I admit he popped dirty. He popped in February didn’t fight ggg till September. He was also enrolled in 365 so those are facts, the opinion that you made insinuating that he won’t reap benefits because he is enrolled and clean is just that, an opinion. You can’t prove that he would get benefit or not, everyone is different and everyone’s body is different. Fact is he enrolled and was clean and beat ggg. Those are facts, also a fact that if canelo retired today his legacy and accomplishments are better and greater than ggg’s ever will be, the fact that you have to defend ggg career by bringing up age and he went pro at this age and this and that just makes you sound like the fanboy you are calling me. lol, look I’m not bashing ggg I’m just stating facts, I’m not defending canelo I’m just stating facts. You can say or think how you want but nothing changes facts. Fact is, canelos career right now is greater than gggs ever will be... EVER! if that fact hurts you I’m sorry not sorry. Everything else is pointless...
Canelo>ggg
And always will be...
For CompuBox a power punch is any punch that's not a jab.There's no distinction between the effect of the punch (or jab).
GI=GO means Garbage In = Garbage Out.
Sort of like this thread. :D
Its funny how you think enrolling in a clean program after you get caught makes up for it. Like oh, the befenits you received go away because NOW you wanna be clean.
So you're wrong here.
It's also funny how you think a trainers words actually dictated the fight. When Mayweather Sr told Jr he was losing to Pac was he losing?
You're also wrong here.
And Canelos achievements under 30 will always be better than GGGs because GGG turned pro at 24 and Canelo turned pro at 15.
15 years vs 6 years to accomplish the same goals. I wonder who's gonna have more?
Canelo also had a much better promoter and fan base than GGG all because hes Mexican and GGG is Khazanistan or whatever.
So yeah, what are you trying to prove by saying under 30 but its ****ing funny.
It's like if I defended GGG by saying his achievements over 30 prove he's better than Canelo.
So in the end you just prove you're a stupid fan boy who uses imaginary rules and opinions to shape you bias.
Canelo had a better promoter and started pro younger. If he didnt have a better career than GGG under 30 he would be trash. All hes done is live up to his expectations.
so wining titles at LMW WW MW and LHW is living up to expectations? come on dont make your post comedy.
not canelos fault that GGG started so late and left it till 35 to win a title in the ring.
lets just respect what GGG did from age 35 to 37. and what canelo did age 23+, give them equali non bias.
Don’t mix facts with your opinions, you’re right it’s a fact canelo got popped for cien... it’s also a fact that he got popped after the first fight, and before the second which was cancelled and he enrolled in vada 365 and kicked ggg ass so bad his own trainer admitted it, and he made ggg walk out the ring and gave none of his fans an in ring interview. Those are all facts... another fact, canelos career and resume and accomplishments are all greater now at under 30 then gggs ever will be. Facts
Its funny how you think enrolling in a clean program after you get caught makes up for it. Like oh, the befenits you received go away because NOW you wanna be clean.
So you're wrong here.
It's also funny how you think a trainers words actually dictated the fight. When Mayweather Sr told Jr he was losing to Pac was he losing?
You're also wrong here.
And Canelos achievements under 30 will always be better than GGGs because GGG turned pro at 24 and Canelo turned pro at 15.
15 years vs 6 years to accomplish the same goals. I wonder who's gonna have more?
Canelo also had a much better promoter and fan base than GGG all because hes Mexican and GGG is Khazanistan or whatever.
So yeah, what are you trying to prove by saying under 30 but its ****ing funny.
It's like if I defended GGG by saying his achievements over 30 prove he's better than Canelo.
So in the end you just prove you're a stupid fan boy who uses imaginary rules and opinions to shape you bias.
Canelo had a better promoter and started pro younger. If he didnt have a better career than GGG under 30 he would be trash. All hes done is live up to his expectations.
Lmfao.
This was the EXACT response I was trying to bait.
Thanks!
Oh? So now after you cant defend you own trash opinion you try to change the subject huh? You dont know how fights are scored but point to the official score cards now? Because the score cards always tell the truth right?
Lmfao.
Let's talk before Canelo "won ".
Fact. Canelo got busted for PEDs after getting handed a gift in what was a modern day robbery.
Canelo barely beat GGG at 36 years old after testing positive Clenbuterol which he couldnt prove and was banned for 6 months.
Fact. You cannot prove he didnt cheat but I can prove it was in his system. Lmfao.
Fact. You're not a scientist and you're clearly not very bright.
Canelo didnt dominate GGG. Fact. Canelo barely scraped by. Or does 115-113x2 and 114-114 the own score cards by your omission prove he was dominant?
Nope!
Lmfao. Bro. All this talk about sucking dick from you it no wonder you cant keep your mouth off Canelos dick.
You're the gay one. Here in America we got a saying. The more you hate gays the higher chances you're gay and hate yourself.
Go get help buddy.
Don’t mix facts with your opinions, you’re right it’s a fact canelo got popped for cien... it’s also a fact that he got popped after the first fight, and before the second which was cancelled and he enrolled in vada 365 and kicked ggg ass so bad his own trainer admitted it, and he made ggg walk out the ring and gave none of his fans an in ring interview. Those are all facts... another fact, canelos career and resume and accomplishments are all greater now at under 30 then gggs ever will be. Facts
Facts? Ok, fact is the first fight was a draw and the second fight canelo won, and it doesn’t matter what you or the “majority” of people thought. You clowns always like to pull that “majority of blah blah...” bs card out. Well guess what? Doesn’t change the facts, so suck a fat d.ick
Lmfao.
This was the EXACT response I was trying to bait.
Thanks!
Oh? So now after you cant defend you own trash opinion you try to change the subject huh? You dont know how fights are scored but point to the official score cards now? Because the score cards always tell the truth right?
Lmfao.
Let's talk before Canelo "won ".
Fact. Canelo got busted for PEDs after getting handed a gift in what was a modern day robbery.
Canelo barely beat GGG at 36 years old after testing positive Clenbuterol which he couldnt prove and was banned for 6 months.
Fact. You cannot prove he didnt cheat but I can prove it was in his system. Lmfao.
Fact. You're not a scientist and you're clearly not very bright.
Canelo didnt dominate GGG. Fact. Canelo barely scraped by. Or does 115-113x2 and 114-114 the own score cards by your omission prove he was dominant?
Nope!
Lmfao. Bro. All this talk about sucking dick from you it no wonder you cant keep your mouth off Canelos dick.
You're the gay one. Here in America we got a saying. The more you hate gays the higher chances you're gay and hate yourself.
Go get help buddy.
Hey if you really think that...then that's fine...I like GGG's jab as a scoring punch but you can often tell very easily when it lands...it snaps the opponent's head back...but if you saw it a certain way then hey good for you
Fair enough, respect
I do know that, and By the looks on their faces I think those “not so impressive” punches canelo landed evidently did more damage then then anything ggg did including his jab, well that’s all he did was land jabs... and let’s not even begin to mention body work.
Hey if you really think that...then that's fine...I like GGG's jab as a scoring punch bc you can often tell very easily when it lands...it snaps the opponent's head back...but if you saw it a certain way then hey good for you
It does hold more weight considering you’re out power punching a supposed power puncher... so if that’s not impressive. How about the fact that canelo reduced the Power puncher to a jabber? Either way you see it, it looks better for canelo then ggg
Robbie he has to slip the jab and counter or out jab Golovkin if he wants to dominate. He might be able to outwork Golovkin because Golovkin is aging and looked vulnerable in his last fight but his best bet is to work on neutralizing Golovkin's jab. Canelo has had two opportunities to do that and didn't. Golovkin has to find a way to land to the body without getting countered.
and childish too, huh?
I don’t even care bro, look back at the thread I didn’t say anything to him he started with his sh.it so I’m not gonna just allow someone to call me names and not say anything back, we can agree or disagree like men, like adults... why the insults?
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