It's not that often when an undercard makes you sit up and take notice, but if watching Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. rematch against Matt Vanda in what was a very close first fight, you have to see this!!
NONITO DONAIRE defends his IBF flyweight belt against number one contender MORUTI MTHALANE... yes, Nonito "The Filipino Flash" Donaire, last year's deliverer of the Knockout of the Year, so you know that will be explosive!
JORGE ARCE will take on "CHINO" GARCIA... Arce's fights are always intense wars, and this one promises to deliver.
LAMONT PETERSON, VANES MARTIROSYAN and Russian Olympian MATT KOROBOV will all be on the undercard as well.
i will be watching
:dance:
Who cares about Chavez jr. anyways?
Puerto Rico has a population of 3,800,000. Puerto Rico has had 67 champions.
Mexico has a population of 116,000,000. Mexico has had 194 champions.
So Puerto Rico produces an unbelievable amount of champions per capita over Mexico who falls about halfway on the list with champions per capita.
Putting it simpler if Mexico had Puerto Ricos population they'd have around roughly 6 champions. And if Puerto Rico had Mexicos population they'd have around roughly 2,011 champions.
Having 116 million inhabitants and your greatest rival is an island with 3% of your total population is embarrassing. Not only your greatest rival but arguably may have more wins over Mexico than Mexico over PR.
I say Puerto Rico is the better of the two. Regardless of all this, neither produces the best champions, the US is without a doubt the one that produces the best champions. Rarely skilled, style wise unique and seem to be distinctively gifted. Just the ATG... Ali, RJJ, SRR, SRL, FMM etc..
Outch!! :boxing:
Sebastian Lujan IS Miguel Cotto, this fight can only exist in a Street Fighter-type universe where one guy would have to wear alternate dark clothing.
LOL good one
I believe Gato, he has no reason to lie.
But he has all the reasono to create a controversy and promote his fight.
I believe Cotto. I have never heard of Cotto talking smack he always says his stuff straight up.
I doubt that, that guy was hitting him really hard..even roach was wincing..e's just not used to being in the ring.
I have no idea why he thinks he can beat Jones at boxing.
The only UFC fights I watch are the ones he is fighting.
Nahh he could have thrown a lot harder punches. but no he ain't beating JONES at boxing. At MMA he would kick tha shit out of Jones un less he gets caught then is lights out.
Some of you guys a ridiculous. You are probably Tito or Puerto Rican hater. Or mexican.
Anyone with a little knoledge in Boxing would know that Margarito no even in his wildest dream could have a chance vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad. Specially if he goes toe to toe tito had an bad ass power and smanina for 12 rounds droping bombs while timing his opponents.
That was Trinidad with a pure boxer. Margo doesn't come close to that.
Some of you guys a ridiculous. You are probably Tito or Puerto Rican hater. Or mexican.
Anyone with a little knoledge in Boxing would know that Margarito no even in his wildest dream could have a chance vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad. Specially if he goes toe to toe tito had an bad ass power and smanina for 12 rounds droping bombs while timing his opponents.
Based off Tony's last performance, does Oscar have a chance at beating him at 154lbs? Looks like there is talk of Oscar wanting to comeback. Oscar passed on this fight after Tony destroyed Cotto, perhaps fearing that the same would happen to him.
It seems Oscar and Shane like to try to outdo each other against common opposition. Would he consider such a fight now that he's seen what Shane was able to do to the Tijuana Tornado?
Oscar would beat that ass like Tito, Vargas, etc would have as well. But now who knows.
If he goes to 154 I wish he could fight OMar Henry.
cotto pretty much trained his self under his uncle and has gotten this far.
And that is pretty amazing right there. But I do want to see Cotto with a good trainer. To see what he can accomplish. If Cotto loses to PAc I will definetly will blame it on this "bad trainer" situation
Sorry for my bad writing.
In this upcoming Cotto/Pac fight, it seems like both fighters have different dynamics going on in their camps.
Roach is still a strong presence and guide for Manny Pacquiao. Cotto has no such presence in his camp. Santiago is a pushover to Cotto.
Do you think Cotto is the type of fighter, like Floyd, that doesn't really need a trainer anymore, that basically trains himself? Or is it going to effect Cotto's preparation for the fight negatively?
Poll to follow
I don't know he do need a trainer or not. But he has done it for quite a while.
I don't know how he can do with a good trainner that can push him to the limit.
can we please have 1 day that we don't have any articles mentioning anything about pacquiao ''looking good'' in training camp etc? :good:.
WE have to 99.9999% of the forum says is a 50/50 fight
Mosley beat margarito but cotto beat mosley..IMO cotto could be the best welterweight in the world cause he lost to margarito but i think that margarito cheated with the plaster. The fight that needs to be made is mosley vs cotto 2 cause in the first fight mosley fought the wrong fight with cotto and he could make some adjustments and could maybe even give cotto more problems in rematch. And with cotto just beating clottey hes proven to be top three of the welterweight division by the way went cotto beats paquiao then maybe they will consider him as the best pound for pound ...mayweather is not even top ten yet cause he has not fought and beat a top ten welterweight since he retired so i dont wanna hear sh*t about mayweather being the best welterweight....hes the best at catch weight... by the way mosley is my favorite fighter and then cotto
Any rational person could agree with most of this post.
For me Cotto will always have Mosley's number.
In no particular order,
Mosley
Cotto
Pacquiao
Magarito - maybe
But other 3
Would he be considered as one of the best of all time... maybe top 10
Hes great already but his legacy will be one of the best if he gets Pacquiao and Mosley on his resume with a Win.
Teddy atlas cant hate on that
I DO. But he has to fight the winner of Cotto - PAc and Mosley before Mosley gets older and waaay past his prime. He has to fight Mosley now!!!
and I'm a COTTO fan
floyd bring that shit to himself, here are some of his quotes:
I'm the best boxer there is
the sports die if i leave
i fight the best
i mean we are not morons man we are boxing fans dammit.
We all know what the boxers has done in the past till today in all divisions. We even talk about not famous fighyers in here we know our shit in here.
Ra echoes my feelings about floyd. We all know what he has done so for him to say those things is calling us morons. At 147 he ain't prove shit. If baldo and judah where the best 147 where are they now. Cotto beat the shit out of judah ( and please don't tell me taht floyd took something out of him because that was a close fight and even floyd got droped).
Floyd is an amazing talent but legacy wise since he came to 140 he has not prove crap. Yes he beat hatton the 140 champ but he make him come up to 147 ( we all know hatton barely beat collazo and a lot of us had him loosing that fight)
i do give floyd the oscar fight that was a good win ( because it was at 154 ) but after that what good he has done?
Fighting the 130 and 135 champ at 144 catch weight and still came at 146lb with by the way that was a bitch move. and like we heard in the interview with ra he said he could make 135 if he want it to.
bump! ! ! !
i dont think floyd had any idea that was coming. like i said, i think psychologically it has to wear on you that you play the game every other fighter plays but only you yourself get called on it, its also why he contradicts himself, i think floyd doesnt know if he wants to be on defense or offense with his arguments and frustration comes out. There is a reason Ellerbe speaks for him in public usually.
Dude is waiting for the biggest payday like everyone else but R.A talkin greasy over the damn phone.
Floyd bring that shit to himself, here are some of his quotes:
I'm the best boxer there is
The sports die if I leave
I fight the best
I mean we are not morons man we are boxing fans dammit.
We all know what the boxers has done in the past till today in all divisions. We even talk about not famous fighyers in here we know our shit in here.
RA echoes my feelings about Floyd. We all know what he has done so for him to say those things is calling us morons. At 147 he ain't prove shit. IF Baldo and Judah where the best 147 where are they now. Cotto beat the shit out of Judah ( and please don't tell me taht Floyd Took something out of him because that was a close fight and even Floyd got droped).
Floyd is an amazing talent but legacy wise since he came to 140 he has not prove crap. Yes he beat Hatton the 140 champ but he make him come up to 147 ( we all know Hatton barely beat Collazo and a lot of us had him loosing that fight)
I do give Floyd the Oscar fight that was a good win ( because it was at 154 ) but after that what good he has done?
Fighting the 130 and 135 champ at 144 catch weight and still came at 146lb with by the way that was a bitch move. And like we heard in the interview with RA he said he could make 135 if he want it to.
The will debut the use of instant replay in boxing tomorrow for the first time during the Joseph Agbecko vs Yhonny Perez fight. It will be use to determine if cuts were caused by accidental headbut or punch, if punches were landed before the bell, low blows etc.
I actually think this is a good Idea as long as it is done between rounds so not to disrupt the fight. Maybe its one step towards getting rid of alot of bullshit deductions in boxing.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4610011
not only that but when ref don't see the knock downs as well.
For example when Judah dropped Floyd
RA: "He (Marquez) had to gain weight, and he was slow, sluggish and his punches can't hurt you at 147."
Floyd: "It's not by weight, skills pays the bills!"
RA: "If weight don't mean something, go fight Chad Dawson!"
I have to say I did enjoy that debate with RA as the winner in a one sided beat down
a wigger isn't a real word. last I heard it's a stupid concept based on the fact of people "wanting to be black"
wearing baggy clothes and a backwards hat "makes you black"?
**and why does it seem African American's are the only ethnicity that gets mimicked?
if I grew a beard and walked around in a turban, would people say I was "acting Indian?"
give me a break
society needs to smarten up, and drop these stupid terminologies that do nothing but generalize.
Wanting to be black???? WTF why it can't be he just likes the hip hop music.
So a black man can't sing rock??? man STFU
I do hate the word Ni**a and Wigga.
I also hate when people say White boy. How a black man feel if someone calls you : "Hey Black Boy" so now you know.
Like in the Bullworth movie : "Blacks, whites, Chines,etc they are all ****ing each other and one day we all are going to be "Gray". And some morons with low self-esteem will find a way to try to degrade a group different from them.
Society is getting dumber.
But today this site got straight retarded.
It is sad!! it is going backward. And by no means the youth don't seem to care.
I was playing basketball the other day and started talking with 2 young neighbors. One is 16 the other is 17, the 16 years old wanted to go to College to make something for himself while the other said to me this: "Nah man **** college I will let my mom take care of me" At he beggining I was thinking he was playing but turns up he was for real. SAd Sad story.