RA the Rugged Man Vs Floyd Mayweather on Shade 45 (Audio)

Really? Wasn't OST agreed upon? Nope. It began during the Mosley bout. Then again there was no Memo then.

The Mosley win is a good win. Not a great win, for the simple fact that Shane, apart from the fight against a Margarito who looked like a fighter who knew that the fight wasn't going to be as important as the fall-out afterwards, has looked like crap since 2008. We all wanted the fight, we got it, Floyd dominated Mosley impressively, and it's a much better win than the Pacquiao one against Shane. But it's interesting to note that Floyd, for a period of time, did not look like he wanted the Mosley fight. He trashed Mosley, called him a steroid user, descredited him - that's why there was a momentum for it, cos it felt like Floyd did not want it, which people interpreted as ducking. Then, one day, after Shane's been through a full training camp for a fight that never happened (Berto), Floyd takes the fight. I think tactically, it was a perfect choice of opponent. Take the guy everyone wants you to fight, but probably knowing this won't be a good version of Shane. I mean, we simply cannot overlook how bad Mosley looked in that fight. Regardless of how he looked in a fight 18 months previously against Margs, Shane looked terrible against Floyd. It was the start of him looking like a shot fighter who couldn't pull the trigger. Totally agree........

There was no OST for the Floyd fight either, actually. Really? Wasn't OST agreed upon?

IDK. I just remember after the fight was signed he was sounding real corny. Like posters on here. thats because RA at the time was a hip hop hanger on and just ran with something he heard because it suited his agenda.

Pretty much. Today I don't know what to think of the JMM win. Speaking bluntly, and I'm sure you know where I'm coming from, there was OST for the Floyd fight and not, AFAIK, for the Pac fight. There was no OST for the Floyd fight either, actually.

I didn't even go back for his reaction after the Mosley fight. Is it on YouTube? IDK. I just remember after the fight was signed he was sounding real corny. Like posters on here.

If you listen to the interview, it was the host who repeatedly kept bringing Mosley up not Ra, Ra just ran with it for a bit for lulz while in the midst of schooling FMJ on boxing history. Floyd made some good points too. Forget Brian Kenny, Ra v Floyd is out there on its own as far as boxing interviews are concerned. Top notch entertainment. LOL You really are delusional if that's the way you interpreted it.

Mayweather really does need to fight Shane. If you listen to the interview, it was the host who repeatedly kept bringing Mosley up not Ra, Ra just ran with it for a bit for lulz while in the midst of schooling FMJ on boxing history. Floyd made some good points too. Forget Brian Kenny, Ra v Floyd is out there on its own as far as boxing interviews are concerned. Top notch entertainment.

You know, this is exactly how I felt. I considered the Marquez bout a tune-up and believed he had to take on a serious, top welter opponent that represented a legitimate threat after him. As it turns out, the Marquez fight will go down as much much more than just a warmup. And the man who everyone in this thread felt Floyd was scared of was his next opponent. For some reason people on here like to write it off but the Mosley win, particularly in the manner in which it was done, was highly impressive and a great win on Floyd's resume. Pretty much. Today I don't know what to think of the JMM win. Speaking bluntly, and I'm sure you know where I'm coming from, there was OST for the Floyd fight and not, AFAIK, for the Pac fight.

830 comments. Explanation enough to the level of hatred. :lol1: Even after he fought Mosley and beat him up, it was something else. And RA was sounding real sour after the fight was made too.

LOL this is Floyd's legacy^^^^ Coulda Woulda Shoulda done this and that to Margarito, prime Cotto, Williams, etc... margo and cotto were with top rank the same company he left cause arum himself admitted he did not wanna pay the man...and williams had just lost to quintana for crying out loud

Floyd would've gone to Margarito's body. Like Mosley did early on. That would've made the difference. Not to mention Floyd would clinch him. Over and over and over if he had too. I think Tony would've been surprised to see how strong Floyd was. Imo the fight would not have been close. At the end of the day he doesnt win more than 4 rounds. Floyd has no problem fighting a full 12 so Margs stamina wouldve been a wash.

That could've happened too, but I'm not sure Floyd would've been as effective as Mosley. Even as old as Mosley was he still had power to be conscious of. Those shots accumulate. Plus, you don't have to hit as hard as Mosley. Danny Perez put Margarito on his ass and he wasn't in Mosley's area code in terms of power.

Floyd would've gone to Margarito's body. Like Mosley did early on. That would've made the difference. That could've happened too, but I'm not sure Floyd would've been as effective as Mosley. Even as old as Mosley was he still had power to be conscious of.

Thing with Corrales though is Floyd did hurt him. I don't think Floyd would hurt Margarito at all (back then). Floyd does fight good under pressure, but Margarito then I think would've turned up the heat mid rounds and it could've gotten interesting. I believe Floyd would've won, but I think Margarito would've made Floyd work. This is also assuming of course...Margarito wasn't loaded lol. Floyd would've gone to Margarito's body. Like Mosley did early on. That would've made the difference.

Exactly. People think floyd would get murked by Margarito and I am not one of them, especially if it was 5 years ago. I mean seriously look what Cotto did to Marg in the first 6 rounds, and Floyd is better at everything than Cotto when it comes to boxing. Floyd wouldn't go straight back into the ropes, he'd be turning getting out quick as sh*t and just pop shotting Marg to a decision where Floyd wouldn't lose a round. Think Floyd/Chico same sh*t IMO. Way too fast for a way too slow plodder. Thing with Corrales though is Floyd did hurt him. I don't think Floyd would hurt Margarito at all (back then). Floyd does fight good under pressure, but Margarito then I think would've turned up the heat mid rounds and it could've gotten interesting. I believe Floyd would've won, but I think Margarito would've made Floyd work. This is also assuming of course...Margarito wasn't loaded lol.

Castillo is just a flat out smarter boxer than Margarito imo. Exactly. People think floyd would get murked by Margarito and I am not one of them, especially if it was 5 years ago. I mean seriously look what Cotto did to Marg in the first 6 rounds, and Floyd is better at everything than Cotto when it comes to boxing. Floyd wouldn't go straight back into the ropes, he'd be turning getting out quick as sh*t and just pop shotting Marg to a decision where Floyd wouldn't lose a round. Think Floyd/Chico same sh*t IMO. Way too fast for a way too slow plodder.

now all the sudden mosley isnt a good win?

To be fair - and I like that comparison - Castillo had a much better jab than Margarito, as well as better footwork and speed and was as powerful and tough. He was a much crisper boxer than Margarito and, while Tony was a formidable inside fighter, years of sparring with Julio Cesar Chavez taught Castillo all the nuances of that aspect of the game. The championship rounds of Mayweather-Castillo I are a pleasure to watch and also show how valuable Roger Mayweather's boxing acumen is. The momentum had completely turned in Castillo's favor and Floyd was on his heels. And instead of telling Floyd to box more or whatever, Roger told Floyd to stand his ground and combat Castillo on the inside. The next round (11?) featured an excellent display of in-fighting from both fighters. The thing that really gets lost because the decision was unjustifiably wide is just how great a fight it was from a tactical perspective and also the sheer quality of boxing from both guys.

Mayweather really does need to fight Shane.