Floyd may not be worried but the Flomos sure does lol. If Floyd lose this case its another bump in the head for the Floyd fans. And it sure is looking that way and this early in the case too. Expect Flomos be barking louder than ever.
Main point is can Floyd prove his claim? Well currently he doesn't. And the way he acted like a total idiot proves it.
"If Manny couldn't chase a hurting Mosley how can he expect to win against Floyd?" Why do people keep saying that? There is a world of difference between being tactical and holding on to dear life. Manny did caught him and everytime he got close Mosley grab like hell. The rest of the fight Mosley's gloves was on his face while striding on his tricy saying "look ma' no hands". If Manny wasn't as powerful as he was against Mosley that night it would've been a different story. Mosley would still be willing to fight cautious but ready to unleash his overhead right. That "Manny left" was the peroneal nail to the coffin. After that Mosley was never the same again.
No one expect Mosley to act the way he did i think even Mosley didn't expect himself to act the way he did. The guy didn't want to lose face thats all.
Now whose in damage control? rolf Floyd fans trying to justify Floyds action. What a load of BS!
Sure Ortiz was terribly outmatched anyway but that doesn't mean he had no more chance. Ortiz lack focus and patience and that lead to his downfall. Truth be told Floyd has no honor whatsoever. Ortiz gave Floyd a cheap shot but to result to an even cheaper shot is just juvenile. Floyd just can't be mature and be the bigger man. Bet you Floyd fans consider this a legit win for Floyd huh? Well whatever tickles your butthole.
Honestly man. Lets keep it all the 100. If Manny Pacquiao agreed to the tests prior. Then why does Arum have a problem with USADA doing the testing and feeling they are corrupt? Wouldn't Arum have had this problem before making him not able to agree to the testing? Wouldn't that have always been an issue for him? why would he agree and then later say "I think the USADA is corrupt in favor of Floyd"? Floyd request was always to be handled by the USADA. Pac has never been 100% agreeable with taking the tests and giving blood and that's a fact. Just look at the first negotiations when he went to fight Clottey instead of agreeing to the cut off.
Again history lessons! Arum doesn't trust USADA because of their close involvement with Floyd and which side they stand and that ofcorz if Floyds side. And you think that is completely irrational? Lets put the same logic on Floyd why not trust the Philippines, WADA or anybody besides USADA to test Pacquiao what is the problem there? I completely understand why any boxer would distrust the country whose doing the test in which the boxer originated from but to pursue that USADA should only be the one doing the testing is irrational given the fact that Manny train half of his training camp at home.
I'll admit i can't explain why Pacquiao agreed now and not then but is that really matter? The important thing here is Pac agreed to OSDT though not 100% came from his mouth the fact that Manny didn't announced to disgree to the statement and for this long of a time is good enough to take Arums word. So is Arum playing the mind game? sure probably, but if testing is the only thing separating Floyd and a signature why push this USADA issue? Now answer me that?
Bradley is a junior welterweight, Ortiz is the third best welter on the planet. Tim is not ranked at 147 and Vic is the current WBC champion
Saul Alvarez is a 20yo lawn-green JMW, are you even being serious?
Not even close man.
Boxing uses weight divisions, do you think that maybe you could try also ?
Just a suggestion.....
Mayweather is a welter, how about he fight the third best welter on the planet ?
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I'm saying Ortiz is unproven. Sure his fight with Berto was epic but i can't shake the feeling that it was a fluke. With the way he performed against Maidana i am still not convince. Ortiz battled his way through Berto but it wasn't a dominant one. Berto was the best thing that happened to Ortiz but in the end it wasn't a good measuring stick. You get my meaning? Not to mention that this is his first belt at welter. Bradley and Alvarez aren't welters, true, but they are unbeaten. Ortiz is over-hyped thats what i believe.
Why do Pac the one who needs to compromise? I dont get it? Pacquiao went to welter the hard way. If these bums want a fair fight why not to go where Manny is and chase him whichever way comfortable to them. Manny wont go back down to 135 or two weight higher thats absurd. You may not like it but Manny wont risk his health just to prove what his already proven. Floyd is doing the same thing the difference is Floyd is doing it on his couch. So instead of wasting your energy promoting such idiotic fights you flomos should dedicate your time convincing Floyd to fight again and stop being bitter just because of your hero's spewing unreasonable childish rants.
LOL floyd made 65million(per forbes mag) in 2010 when he fought shane. floyd does not need money. he has a ton of paper. its pac bending over for bob arum and gbp. and you talk as if this suit is a lock. libel suits are very hard to prove as the have to prove pbf KNEW he was lying when they questioned if pac was on peds. and with pacs reluctance to go forward with ost and all the weird reasons why they refused ost. well that only helps floyd. i see this case getting tossed before a verdict is read.
Wow talk about ignorance.
so it was ok for manny to do the commish's job by asking for a 10mil PER POUND over wt limit. but not ok for floyd to ask for ost? and hagler said if he were pac he would tell floyd to TAKE THE TEST TOO!!!!!!! so hagler is NOT against ost he wants the fight to be on an even field. and whats wrong with that? NOT A DAM THING!!!!!!! AND THATS WHAT TRUE BOXING FANS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR!
In what way does demanding a 10mil per pound over the limit unfair as to taking an unnecessary OST? Its only fair and responsible for a boxer to control his/her weight. And besides Floyd did failed at weight-in on his match with Marquez so demanding such is reasonable. OST was never an issue until the Mayweathers brought it up. So yeah go f'youself.
so your bottom line is that Floyd is AFRAID to fight Manny...at least thats what I get from it....now before you go jumping outta the jet without a parachute...I used to give Floyd a hard time on these boards when I didn't give a fukk about the negotiaitons and just took the media's word....why?...cause I didn't give a fukk...neither dude is on my fav list...but as time passed...I did my own research and added the FACTS...not the myths....FACT is, the fight was gonna happen....old fragile hands bowed down from 10 oz to 8 oz gloves....and then agreed to that ABSURB weight penalty....everything seemed cool...UNTIL blood testing came in....in the fukkin NORMAL world where HONESTY and INTEGRITY seperates the real from the fake....that bullsh!t blood test is a small thing to giant....but NOOOOOOO!!!!!....from the fear of needles to he's bigger than me to mental sh!t to----man yall know what was coming outta that camp....then when Floyd got BOLD and said Manny is next....Arum spun sh!t to USADA vs WADA and this can't be trusted ans so on...man if you fall for that...its all good...but don't try to turn bs into logic....now lets see what happens next....if HBO turns up the heat on BOTH....those post fight talks will be very interesting
Floyd fans are masters of deflections.
Floyd fans: "Oh no im cornered! Lets blame Pacquiao again for not taking the blood test the first time... Whoo! safe! You can't get us! We good at this ****e"
If testing is the only issue here who would conduct the testing shouldn't be a problem. The fact that Floydie keep putting up smoke screens and refusing to admit his statements is a clear sign of cowardice.
You fkn ignorant clown. Name a fighter who is more qualified than Victor Ortiz to fight either Pac or May?
Ortiz is CLEARLY the third best welter on the planet.
Timothy Bradley for Pac(which i think is being set after Marquez fight) or Saul Alvarez for either both.
Bradley is not ready for someone like Pac and Floyd. He would lose to both guys easily. Bradley won't even beat Khan when they fight.
Alvarez is far from ready. He needs to show everyone he can compete against the best guys and make weight without having problems.
Thats the theme of this thread yay!!
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Mayweather is just promoting his fight with Ortiz by saying this things! :boxing:
I'll bet after the Ortiz fight, Mayweather will go VACATION AGAIN & HIDE! :boxing:
He will come up with another EXCUSE... Mark my word! :boxing:
Marked and put into safety deposit box. lol
Your still in damage control, because you guys feel ashamed to see Pacquiao still cherry picking, fighting OLD fighters, while Floyd is fighting someone Young and Strong.
Pacquiao could have fought someone prime and young, but instead he chose Margarito, Mosley and now JMM.
Aw you're lost aren't you :puppy_dog
Floyd Fans are hilarious! You just can't imagine how madly insane these group of people are, dedicated but seriously insane. First you keep saying Pac take the test and when he did you people turn to procedure and then history lesson. Saying if only Pac agreed to take the test earlier this wouldn't happened. ROFL
If that doesn't make you laugh with frustration nothing will. Keep casting the blind eye. Thats the only thing separating you from disappointing embarrassment related suicide.
"Promoter Bob Arum certainly has not given up on a fight between his Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr."
After all the facts that have been presented during these past two years, you still have reason to believe Arum wants to make this mega fight. BS.
I agree and with the additional reluctant of Floyd Mayweather we better say bye bye to this fight fight.
They just can't swallow the fact that Floyd checked mate Pac. Even Arum got choked up on his B.S. They underestimated Floyd and it backfired. Ortiz no matter what Pac fans think, is consider an exciting and legit fight and opponent for Mayweather. Pac hasn't had that kind of attention from his opponents in YEARS! Floyd is indeed on another level than Victor Ortiz but there are not too many fighters who are on or close to Floyd's level of skill with the exception of Sergio Martinez. If Pac was that great like his fans claim, then he would be fighting out of Top Rank and there would have NEVER been any catchweights, Clottey, Margarito or a Mosley fight AND now JMM (eventhough JMM is the best out of the rest of Pac's opponents at this point). Pac don't want to fight no one challenging or poses any kind of threat and that's why he is looking so great in them fights. I would never even talk about Pac like this if his fans didn't continue to make up nonsense and try to push their opinions like they are facts. Ortiz is ready and he overcame his priors fights. Let the man get his money and due. The only people that are crapping on this fight is die hard Pac fans and mainly because Pac ain't fighting him first.
This whole crap is hella funny. Aren't Floyd Fans doing the exact opposite thing?? We Pac fans downgrade Ortiz(which he really is) while you Floyd fans glorify him to make as though his worthy of being on the same stage as Pacquiao and Mayweather. Ortiz has power i agree but he also has no chin. He can dish it but he can't take it thats what makes Ortiz unfavorable with Mayweather. No speed and a weak chin. To those who thinks Ortiz belongs at Pacquiao's level you're all bunch of idiots. Pacquaio will knock Ortiz in a heartbeat that is undeniable fact. Timothy, Alvarez, Ortiz it doesn't matter whether who fights who. Skill-wise they're all unworthy of the two best fighters in the world. The only fight that makes sense now is Pacquaio and Mayweather. You can deny all you want but in the end its a matter of who draws the bigger crowd. This whole thing is dumb and absurd.:boxing:
What an absolute arsewipe Arum.
FACT: USADA testing was no problem whatsoever for Mosley or Ortiz.
Just another roadblock from the bobfather that will be happily endorsed by the fuktards.
What's up your butt this time? other than Mayweather's prick that is. lol :****you:
damn pactards in damage control mode...
How are we in damage control mode? Are you lost or something? Isn't this about Floyd contradicting himself in front of all the world to see? You know about Floyd statement about "Pacquiao your next" and then said "I didn't say that" right after Manny agreed to OSDT? If anything flomos are in damage control mode.
Money is everything in boxing now if promoters can't get money from you they move on and left you scraping for scraps. Unless boxing gets rid of promoters you can't expect anything more from blood sucking maggots. But Arum still has a point Ortiz isn't ready promotional-wise. If you gave Ortiz more opportunities to build his market appeal you could still get money from him even if he loses to someone like Mayweather. Fans thinks Ortiz is ready just because Floyd picked him. Floyd picked him cause he's green and unproven that is all there is to it.
What a fkn doorknob.
So, even though I was drunk, if you didnt turn that corner back there, I would not have crashed into you, so the accident was your fault, right ?
Pac could have taken the test dipsh1t.
The request was reasonable, so Pac either ducked Floyd or he ducked the tests.
Yeah keep telling yourself that...