I'll beg for an answer one more time.
Anybody remember this guy? Heck, I told the story to my friends recently, but couldn't supply the fighter's name. It is a great sports story. Fighter was 0-18. Lost every fight he fought, didn't quit the sport, 0-18...then reeled off 19 straight wins! Come on, this guy should be known.
Excellently timed bump my friend. I instantly recalled his name when you bumped this today.
Kirino Garcia
http://boxrec.com/boxer/3890
Yes, yes, yes!!!
Thanks, man. I knew I wasn't crazy. Kirino Garcia. His story should be a part of boxing legend and lore. 0-18. Didn't quit...and then won 25 of his next 26 fights! Guy lost 18 in a row, every fight he ever fought, and then peeled off 25 wins.
0-18! And he kept going!
Thanks. I'm never forgetting his name again.
Thanks, Eff Pandas. Even though you couldn't help me out with the fighter's name, I say thanks because you made me realize I'm not crazy and this fighter with that strange story did exist. Good to know I'm not the only one who knows of this odd boxing story.
Hope I can somehow find out who he was and what eventualy did become of his career.
Thanks.
Problem is for this Floyd/Mac fight there will be a lot of people present who have never really watched a boxing match (mostly the girls) but we need them to make the betting pool larger. Trying to explain to them what their money gets them in a pool is insanely difficult. I try to tell them if you draw round 4 you have round 4 and the one minute after round four. Someone will always then say, "Not fair. We don't get a one minute after round 12" or "We should split the money between round four and five ticket holders if fight ends in between rounds."
I like big fights because the party is bigger, but the people who show up can be maddening.
Classics are still here
The classics and the hits just keep coming. Gatti, Ward, Pemberton, Echols, and many others have been in classic fights that will be remembered and watched for decades.
The big Super Fights of the seventies and eighties are few and far between. Back then it seemed we were getting a Duran/Leonard, Pryor/Arguello, Chavez/Taylor, Hagler/Hearns every other week.
Re: Duran
Roberto Duran WAS my idol.
Everlast, what you wrote is what I felt. The "No mas" and the destruction at the hands of Thomas Hearns were hard to take and understand. Those loses were devastating for a Duran fan.
However, those two terrible Duran loses did make the stunning victories over Moore and Barkley two of the most memorable sports nights in my life. Without the bad ("No mas" and Hearns) we wouldn't appreciate the spectacular (Moore and Barkley) as much.
He beat up white dudes
I think that what Johnson did is WAAAY more impressive than what Jackie Robinson did. He was beating white dudes the fuk UP!
I saw the documentary and the above quote by Boxerdog is better than anything those sociologists, historians, or boxing experts said in the documentary.
That quote is dead on right -- Johnson was beating white dudes the fuk up in front of thousands and this was just thirty, forty years after slavery! Man, the pressure of being Johnson and the hate the public must have felt towards him is impossible to understand. Jackie Robinson hit some ground balls through the infield. Big deal. At a time when black dudes were expected to step and fetch it, Jack Johnson beat white dudes up. That's heavy stuff to deal with for all concerned.
Looked huge
in the film footage he looked huge too, anybody else notice that?
Wait a minute, yeah Johnson was a big guy, but not huge. He looked huge because in the footage he is shown fighting Stanley Ketchel (a middleweight!) and Tommy Burns (at only 5'7" the smallest heavyweight champion in history). Put me in films against Ketchell and Burns and I'll look huge, too. Johnson certainly did not look huge against that big bear of a guy Jim Jeffries. See if Johnson looks huge tonight when they show him fighting against the Giant Jess Willard.
Tarver vs. Artest
I'm going with Artest over Tarver.
Tarver's big win came over the over-hyped Jones. Hell, Glencoffe Johnson beat Jones.
Now Artest, on the other hand, displayed great defensive skills by evading Wallace, then he took his minute rest on the scorer's table and went on to score two KOs in less than two minutes! He first demolished the wrong guy in the stands and after that he slammed that heavyweight who went onto the court. This guy Artest is goooooooood.
Artest is a great defensive specialist who can take on three of the best the NBA has to offer. He'd have no problem with Tarver. Artest by KO in the second.
Best trilogies...
#1. Bowe/Holyfield - great, great fights with the Heavyweight title on the line for two of them. Both fighters gave it all over every round.
#2. Frazier/Ali - a great deal on the line, captured the attention of even non-boxing fans, fight III was one of the greatest fights of all time
#3. Griffith/Paret - two very talented fighters who hated each other. The tragic ending can not take away from the great fights these were.
#4. Gatti/Ward - first fight one of boxing's greatest, other two just a good night of boxing. No titles at stake, no animosity between the two fighters makes this rank below other trilogies.
Marciano's split nose
Rahman's huge bulge on his head
Klitschko's cut
Ladies and gentleman, we have a new winner in the most disgusting sight in boxing history:
LUJAN'S EAR FALLING OFF HIS HEAD!
It wouldn't help anyone connected with Gatti to allow their exciting, marketable fighter, to get beaten up and knocked out by the lesser known technically superior Tszyu.
This is so true.
Seeing Gatti get toyed with and brutally beaten by De La Hoya was a sad sight. The same would happen against Tszyu but it would be worse for Gatti because Tszyu is not the name amongst the casual boxing fan that De La Hoya is. Imagine Joe Six-pack sitting down to watch his favorite fighter Gatti fight against some guy whose name looks like a Scrabble rack and seeing that no-name destroy Thunder Gatti. Not good for HBO to allow that to happen.
Fan Man
I think The Fan Man died recently... Did anyone else hear about that?
Yeah, Fan Man did not die a week after the Bowe/Holyfield fight as some have said. The guy died about a year and a half ago. It was a suicide - he was found hanging from a tree up in Alaska.
Tyson biting a piece of flesh off of another human is the strangest thing to ever happen in the ring, period! Come on, think about what he actually did....and he did it twice!!!
Sucker punch after fight
The craziest and the worst, was when (forget his name) hit the guy with a haymaker, after the gloves were off, when walking over to shake hands. Incidenatally, was he banned from boxing again due to that incident?
His name is James Butler and it's a lot worse than being banned from boxing.
He was recently charged with murdering Max Kellerman's brother. Max is a famous boxing announcer/commentator over here in the States. The guy Butler is one of the sickest individuals on this planet.
WTF!! Who the fuck are these commentators!
Come on, don't knock the commentators. You may be a youngster, because Tompkins and Morotta were the voices of HBO boxing back in the late eighties, early nineties. They are both very good. They are classic boxing announcers. Give em a listen, you won't be disappointed with them.
That article got it right.
It wasn't just the legendary Duran, Hagler, Leonard, Hearns that made the eighties so special. Yes, they added to it.
But it was those "lesser" fighters - the Fletchers, Mugabis, Blakes, Baltazars, Chris Calvin "The Southern Rebel", "The Vampire" - it was those guys that made the 80s incredibly entertaining.
Sure I remember Arguello/Pryor, Duran/Hearns, but the Frank "The Animal" Fletcher wars or the Saad Muhammad battles were really what made boxing the greatest thing on Earth.
And boxing was big back then. I just remember everyone would be getting excited because Frank The Animal would be fighting Saturday afternoon. The anticipation for those Fletcher or Mugabi or Mancini or Chacon fights was just as big as for Duran/Leonard amongst all my friends.